Let's play "Where's Rob?"

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Dollars to doughnuts he was told by US Immigration that if he did not withdraw his entry he would be denied... which leaves a record: sit transit gloria!

And everything considered, I don't believe for a moment that he could have entered a legitimate rehab facility on 6 hours notice. That is not how these things work!

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I don't get how he "landed" in Chicago. US immigration is situated before the boarding gate. We are not getting the whole story. He must have been turned back at the airport or denied entry at a border crossing, unless he flew on a private plane from somewhere other than YYZ or YTZ.
 

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Hopefully this time they catch him red handed and he gets sent to prison where he belongs. He has brought the office of the mayor and the city into disrepute by frequenting crack houses, hiring career criminals at city hall, and cavorting with violent street gangs.

He belongs behind bars.
with those Triple D's , he's gonna be very , very popular in jail..
 

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no I'm sure I read that if he withdraws his request to enter there is no record. I imagine Perry's post is exactly what happened.. he was told if he didn't withdraw he would be denied .. and that DOES leave a record.

I just noticed Doug says Rob is in a "rehab program" not a "rehab facility" .... technicality?
If it's reported in the media, that's a record we can look back on. It will always be known that His Washedup landed in the USA, took evasive steps and ran home immediately.
 

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$20 says he's in Jamaica. He's kickin' it with his homeboys.


p.s. far too many hours watching Border Security has taught me that if he had to voluntarily withdraw his application, he was, de facto, denied entry by US Customs
I guess they detained him for the special U.S. Border Services "body cavity search" and found a little more than they bargained for up the Big Guy's Puzzoo.
 
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There is a subtle legal distinction between being refused entry, and being given the opportunity to withdraw your request to enter. On future crossings he can answer "[X] No" to the question as to whether he has ever been refused entry.

No doubt he was told in no uncertain terms that his having admitted to drug use would make him inadmissible to the United States, that if he wanted to enter his request would most likely be refused, and was he sure he wanted to enter, or did he want to get back into his plane and fly home again?

It is also probably (I think, not sure) the difference between being allowed to fly home again in his own plane, and being transferred to a holding cell for involuntary deportation.

They were nice to him....
 

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No doubt he was told in no uncertain terms that his having admitted to drug use ...

On the radio people were talking about being refused entry into the US because of past mental health issues. The story was, how was US boarder services getting information on Canadians medical records. If Ford said her was going to the US for rehab, maybe it could be enough to be refused entry.

Going to rehab would be bad enough without reporters following you around and it making the news.
 

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On the radio people were talking about being refused entry into the US because of past mental health issues. If Ford said her was going to the US for rehab, maybe it could be enough to be refused entry.

Going to rehab would be bad enough without reporters following you around and it making the news.
He went on national TV in the United States and admitted to a drug crime. That is enough to make him permanently inadmissible under US immigration law.

Enacted as part of the war on drugs I think, they have zero tolerance.
 

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He is more than likely at Homewood in Guelph who have a very good reputation dealing with and treating patients like Mr. Ford. What pisses me off is that people including the scumbag media were all telling him to get treatment,now they want to find out where he is and harass him. No better than the fucking paparazzi IMHO. Leave the man alone so he can hopefully save his life and get back on track.
 

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He is more than likely at Homewood in Guelph who have a very good reputation dealing with and treating patients like Mr. Ford. What pisses me off is that people including the scumbag media were all telling him to get treatment,now they want to find out where he is and harass him. No better than the fucking paparazzi IMHO. Leave the man alone so he can hopefully save his life and get back on track.
I don't think anyone wants to harass him. I think they just don't believe he is really in rehab.

Also, a month in rehab is not what he needs. He needs to make life changes, and those take time. It isn't just a matter of going a few weeks without a drink and then everything is dandy, he needs to be joining AA and all that shit. Nobody gets 'cured' from alcoholism.

Nobody believes he is serious about this really. He only went because his political career got blown out of the water and he was forced to. He's going to sit there and thinking, "this is bullshit" the entire time, then come out, go to his sisters, and light up some fat rocks.
 

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He is more than likely at Homewood in Guelph who have a very good reputation dealing with and treating patients like Mr. Ford. What pisses me off is that people including the scumbag media were all telling him to get treatment,now they want to find out where he is and harass him. No better than the fucking paparazzi IMHO. Leave the man alone so he can hopefully save his life and get back on track.
And why am I supposed to care where he is?
 

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Maybe the police will spend thousands more of our tax dollars trying to follow him. And then charge him with..............................nothing.
The sale and distribution of crack is illegal - even if your customer is the mayor of Toronto. The money spent on him is no different than following a drug sniffing dog. I think they will save money because obviously Rob Ford is better at locating drug dealers than the drug sniffing dog.

No doubt he was told in no uncertain terms that his having admitted to drug use would make him inadmissible to the United States,.
He admitted buying and using crack and then he flew down to do the Jimmy Kimmel show - why wasn't he stopped then ?
 

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He admitted buying and using crack and then he flew down to do the Jimmy Kimmel show - why wasn't he stopped then ?
Maybe American border guards don't watch Canadian TV or didn't recall that statement when he crossed?

But then he went on US prime time network television and repeated it....
 

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If he is titled persona non grata in the US, wouldn't it hamper his functioning as mayor of Toronto? Wouldn't he have to travel there at some point?
 

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I don't think anyone wants to harass him. I think they just don't believe he is really in rehab.

Also, a month in rehab is not what he needs. He needs to make life changes, and those take time. It isn't just a matter of going a few weeks without a drink and then everything is dandy, he needs to be joining AA and all that shit. Nobody gets 'cured' from alcoholism.

Nobody believes he is serious about this really. He only went because his political career got blown out of the water and he was forced to. He's going to sit there and thinking, "this is bullshit" the entire time, then come out, go to his sisters, and light up some fat rocks.

Sounds to me that you and many others here have it all figured out. Everything from knowing how rehab works to what happened on his trip to what he's thinking right now. Anyone care to share the upcoming winning Lotto Max numbers with me too?
"Nobody gets cured from alcoholism"???? Really? So once and alcoholic, always an alcoholic in your books right? I'm sure there would be thousands of former alcoholics lined up to smash an empty whiskey bottle over your head for that statement. Idiot.
If somehow there is confirmation that he is in a legitimate rehab program, everyone will simply show some sympathy for the guy. Yeah right.
You say you don't think they want to harass him? Really???? People basically camped out in his driveway and followed him into a KFC! And you seriously think someone wouldn't want to snag some pics of him at a rehab clinic? OMG!!!

Btw...look it up...
Myth: When the alcoholic is drinking, he reveals his true personality.
Reality: Alcohol’s effect on the brain causes severe psychological and emotional distortions of the normal personality. Sobriety reveals the alcoholic’s true personality.
 

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"Nobody gets cured from alcoholism"???? Really? So once and alcoholic, always an alcoholic in your books right? I'm sure there would be thousands of former alcoholics lined up to smash an empty whiskey bottle over your head for that statement. Idiot.
YES.
If you think otherwise, you're the fucking idiot.
 

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Not just in his book. Pretty much in everyone's.

It's fairly common knowledge that alcoholism can be overcome, but cured is entirely another thing. Many alcoholics ... sober or not ... would agree with me.
Absolutely.
Though his crack problems push it another six or seven levels of addiction and personality issues.
The chances that he's been video'd the only two times he's done crack are too small to consider him a drunk who does crack only in his drunken stupors.
There are at least two or three other public inebriation reports that sound more like crack then the alcohol, from the Vancouver late night bar, the Garrison Ball and the Bieber after hours club stories. Those are the public stories, we have no idea how often he visited is high school buddies crack house at 15 Windsor or his sisters basement crack den.

And though he's fatter and has better teeth then the real hardcore addicts, his refusal to admit to the possibility that he's a crack head and insist that he's just a drunk don't inspire confidence that he's really being open.
 
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