Loblaws Strike
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I am afraid you have the dubious title of "King Moron"
Simple reason is you let your thoughts be driven by emotions rather than facts.
Yes I did go to business school and you would not last two weeks there
Why?
You have an obvious hatred of corporations (good or bad) , you allow your emotions to outweigh good judgment and are unwilling to learn anything which does not fit your left wing agenda.
So do not presume to tell me what I did or did not learn at business school.
I would wager , I have forgotten more then you will ever know
The changes in the US economy were going to happen no matter what
Just like Romans, and Great Britain after them, the USA had its time in the sun, but eventually external forces causes changes
Just like a child you get all pouty and need to blame someone
Now go put on your dunce cap
theres pressure also on suppliers as well for lower food costs. Look at a jar of pickles some day. Many products like these are now being bottled in countries like India to avoid paying the higher wages for north american workers. Dollarama has cherries from China. The North American food processing industry is going through radical changes.
Stuff like this scares the crap out of me. It hasn't been that long since the tainted milk problem. A single supplier contaminating acetic acid (vinegar) could wipe out a significant fraction of our food supply. At least until we figured out what was actually happening.
Additionally, contamination in China would be significantly harder to detect and prevent than local contamination. We have all sorts of rules here. In China, there is nothing to stop some farmer from pumping industrially poluted river water into his crop sprayer, and then spreading the hazardous mess on produce we eat.
Horse Hockey!
They only happened because a bunch of Judas' are willing to exploit others while stabbing their own in the back, for corporate GREED!
It was all spelled out and proved in the article above!
Only a Supreme MORON would be in denial on that and continue to deny his blame/part in it, while he apologizes for the Judas' he pals around with such slavish obsequiousness as you exhibit Frenchy!
They trained you well, your a regular one trick pony!....
SO TRUE!
I nominate Frenchy as the taste-tester, since he has implicit trust those commies in RED China he pals around with and apologizes for, while FARKING his own countrymen!.....
It's scary that people think like you out there.
The US decline wasn't and isn't in future due to some inevitable hidden force, akin to the 'invisible hand', but rather simply to misguided policies of open trade with countries that follow such a policy in name only. In fact, the US got great playing off Britain's foolish policy of unrestricted free trade at the turn of the last century. You're as ideologically committed to your own wrong views of unrestricted free trade as Woody might be on his, but you'll never admit that.
We're just asking the question of how our society can maintain decent jobs at livable wages for the bottom half of society. If everyone were educated to the nines, then the relative return to education would decline and you'd then see engineers driving cabs, so going up the value chain won't work for everyone.
Oh by the way Canada is starting to import tankers of Vinegar from Cnina as well. Techinically the pickles might say "product of Canada" because they may be grown here. They are shipped overseas for processing and shipped back to Canada as finished product. The company doing this is a well known processor.
Lets be clear. I am not making policy here, just pointing out why this is happening
At one point the USA (1950-1970 ??)had over half of the worlds exports.
Now it is 16.1%
Just how long did you figure the rest of the world was going continue to happily continue to buy the USAs products while the western standard of living greatly exceeded their peoples?
The next 50-100 years?
Your lifetime ?
Your kids lifetime?
China and India have decided they want to be more competitive than the West.
I certainly did not tell them this is what they need to do.
Is it fair or it is right?
I guess that depends on which side of the world you are on
Empires have risen and fallen since the beginning of time as a result of military and more importantly economic power.
It just so happens the USA peaked about 10 years ago and is now on the decline.
The fall will probably happen faster than in the past.
You say this is a result of bad policies, however the fall would have taken place regardless.
I think that is just a case of someone who is scared by the change and looking for someone to blame (the WoodPeker school of blame / screw your neighbor)
There are a couple of undeniable facts here
a) The Chinese are not going to reverse their development of a free market economy.
The alternative for them is a swing back to a planned economy (Communism, which will be a nightmare) and they know that does not work.
b) The Western unions (particularly in manufacturing) are going to get slaughtered
So you can either
a) Whine, complain and look to blame someone (Woodpekers special little gift), which will accomplish nothing positive
or
b) accept what is happening and ensure you have a skill set which will be in demand
Is it fair or it is right?
I guess that depends on which side of the world you are on
Oh yes, its the same group of 20 balding fat old men who meet once a week to plot how to screw WoodPeker out of his god-given right to a standard of living far in excess of the rest of the world.Horse Hockey!
They only happened because a bunch of Judas' are willing to exploit others while stabbing their own in the back, for corporate GREED!
It was all spelled out and proved in the article above!
Only a Supreme MORON would be in denial on that and continue to deny his blame/part in it, while he apologizes for the Judas' he pals around with such slavish obsequiousness as you exhibit Frenchy!
They trained you well, your a regular one trick pony!....
Jut how long did you think that was going to last?
As I said before if you are looking to blame, blame the billion Chinese and the billion Indians who want to improve their standard of living and who are willing to do so at your expense
Either way your precious unions (particularly manufacturing) are going to get slaughtered.
Is that fair or right?
Why worry about that question, as its going to happen
For the record, I did not put all this in place, so blaming me proves what?
Only that your need to blame far exceeds your ability to rationally and logically view a problem / issue
You are such a fool
And if the quality is not there, the well known processor will stop that practice very quickly.
Vinegar is not that difficult to make.
If you are worried about biological contamination, not too much can survive in 5% acetic anhydride
This is low value stuff you are talking about, not overly labor intensive
If the shipping costs do not exceed the difference in the labor cost, it will be substituted
Its a fact of life
Have I ever said I trust the people of China more than my own countrymen?SO TRUE!
I nominate Frenchy as the taste-tester, since he has implicit trust those commies in RED China he pals around with and apologizes for, while FARKING his own countrymen!.....
Please show me the quote or shut you ever flapping mouth
You have a very annoying (and very dispicable) habit of just making up shit that suits your latest brain fart.
For the record, you are the closest thing to a commie that I know and I would not use the word PAL to describe you
The word moron is far more accurate
Again for the record, I am very leary of China and do not much care for the way they do business
However they have a competitive advantage which they are using to thier advantage
Unlike you, I realize I can not control that and I understand whining complaining and blaming will accomplish nothing.
I also do not apologise for anyone
I am just pointing out some forces in play here that you do not particularly like, so you whine and pout and blame, just like a six year old who did not get his way.
But that is exactly what you have always done, right?
You need to grow up
Sorry Johnny but you are the despicable one here!
I was brought up believing you take care of your own first and not the stab them in the back while you worry about helping the commies in RED China instead!.....
Apologize away, because that is all your are doing like Judas did long ago.....
I was brought up believing you take care of your own first and not the stab them in the back while you worry about helping the commies in RED China instead!.....
Apologize away, because that is all your are doing like Judas did long ago.....
Like I said you can twist things around all you want to fit your strange perception of eventsSorry Johnny but you are the despicable one here!
I was brought up believing you take care of your own first and not the stab them in the back while you worry about helping the commies in RED China instead!.....
Apologize away, because that is all your are doing like Judas did long ago.....
Its not my doing
Do you think I give instructions to a billion Chinese?
(Ha Ha . I do not even speak Chinese)
Are you really that fucking stupid?
Or is it your uncontrollable need to assign blame and it makes you feel better to blame me.
And blame me for events that I could not possibly control
(I guess you are that fucking stupid after all)
You know, it is going to awful tough for you to watch your precious unions get slaughtered.
To have all those blue collar workers
a) wondering what they had paid dues for and
b) to have them second guess all the bullshit you had feed them over the years
Thats will be heart breaking for you.
If you were not such an obnoxious, overbearing, loudmouthed, lacking in morals, fool, I might even feel somewhat sorry for you
But you are so much more than all that, so........
I will reserve my sympathy for those blue collar guys that will lose their jobs because their union leaders followed your useless blame strategy
If you only knew
This WoodPeker is the definition of a fool & I will not back down from this idiot.
Especially when he inaccurately accuses me or insults me
Sacrebleu!
Must have really struck a nerve from the way this corporate tool is frothing at the mouth!
Don't know why he is in denial and afraid to admit he's merely doing the bidding his masters demand/pay him for. Since he has no conscience, it should not be difficult at all. After all in management promotions are earned in direct proportion to how skillful a liar you become....
I mean look at poor Tony Baloney of BP!
Tony farked up and now BP is sending him to the Russian front!
LOL!
Must have really struck a nerve from the way this corporate tool is frothing at the mouth!
Don't know why he is in denial and afraid to admit he's merely doing the bidding his masters demand/pay him for. Since he has no conscience, it should not be difficult at all. After all in management promotions are earned in direct proportion to how skillful a liar you become....
I mean look at poor Tony Baloney of BP!
Tony farked up and now BP is sending him to the Russian front!
Well my friend theres alot more to making vinegar than simply mixing water, and othe ingredients. Firstly theres many kinds of specialty vinegars which require additives like apple cider, wine, honey, other ingredients that may or may not be readily available in these evolving nations. Firstly many users require certain strengths of vinegar for a variety of purposes, ie 20% which is not available over the counter is the strongest for cleaning, weed control,,etc...Another factor is the grains of vinegar. If a vinegar does not meet a companies grain requirement for use in a finish product they have the right to reject the product and send it back to the manufacturer thus making it useless. Vinegar believe it or not does have a shelf life. Past due vinegar over time develops a mother (scum) which makes the product again unuseable. Both Canada and the USA have a number of companies which supply the north american market. Many of these workers are non union and the work for the most part IS labour intensive believe it or not. These factories have stringent standards which must be attained for supplier compliance. In Canada, compliance is attained under ISO9000 and HACCP. What does this mean?...Vinegar made in North America is highly monitored by inhouse staff for the upmost in public safety.
Thanks for the lesson in vinegar making. Does the vinegar coming from China not meet these standards? If not why not? If so, then it's a moot point. Is the product after random testing here fails we stop importing it until it does. Do that enough times and maybe the chinese manufactures will smarten up. We need their cheap labour they need our market for now. By the way IS9000 is so yesterday.
We can't compete head to head with the dollar a day labour markets and they're here to stay so what we do here is make the best widget or make the only widget and that makes us competitive. aside from what you can do you also get paid for what you know. If we can't compete in enough manufacturing areas we then have to be competitive in R&D. We always be good at that and even better at taking something and improving on it. In this we can compete with the dollar a day economies. There is easy/short answer but this is a start.
Kudos to you Blackrock!! bravo welldone!!,,,lets have a few more 1000 people go unemployed and eventually on wellfare! Maybe you have a good education and a white collar job so you dont have to worry about somebody in India or china taking your job!!,,Not every1 has your luxury. Oh by the way do you drive an import car as well?...Maybe you have people in the food industry who rely on services that you provide?..If they lose their jobs will they continue to support you?..Its people like you that truly make me puke!!
