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Now a couple of the talking heads on CNN are saying do not rule out mechanical failure. It is possible that there was mechanical failure over the South China Sea, the pilot turned the plane back (westward) towards Malaysia and then the shit hit the fan and nobody really knows what really happened after that. But, why no "Mayday" from the pilot or co-pilot? Ghost plane.
 

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There are lots of pitot tubes. Look out the window.
Well, more than one. For example the A330 has three, however, Air France flight 447 still crashed because the autopilot kicked off because it was getting conflicting data due to one or two iced up pitot tube(s).
 

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Well, more than one. For example the A330 has three, however, Air France flight 447 still crashed because the autopilot kicked off because it was getting conflicting data due to one or two iced up pitot tube(s).
There are several smaller ones off the flaps etc. on the wings. (unless I am mistaken)
 

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There are several smaller ones off the flaps etc. on the wings. (unless I am mistaken)[/

The trailing edge of a wing has devices to discharge built up static. Commonly referred to as static wicks.
A pitot tube faces forward so air flow can go in.
A static wick trails for aerodynamic reasons.
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There are several smaller ones off the flaps etc. on the wings. (unless I am mistaken)[/

The trailing edge of a wing has devices to discharge built up static. Commonly referred to as static wicks.
A pitot tube faces forward so air flow can go in.
A static wick trails for aerodynamic reasons.
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OK, mistaken (again).
 

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2583143/Courtney-Love-claims-located-missing-MH370.html

None other than Courtney Love has weighed in with her own verdict on where the Malaysian airlines plane MH370 has disappeared to.

Alongside a photograph of satellite imagery from crowd sourcing website Tomnod, Courtney wrote: 'I'm no expert but up close this does look like a plane and an oil slick.'

'I went to the satellite site and just uploaded tons and tons of pictures,' she told the publication. 'I really doubt aliens took it.'
 

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2583143/Courtney-Love-claims-located-missing-MH370.html

None other than Courtney Love has weighed in with her own verdict on where the Malaysian airlines plane MH370 has disappeared to.

Alongside a photograph of satellite imagery from crowd sourcing website Tomnod, Courtney wrote: 'I'm no expert but up close this does look like a plane and an oil slick.'

'I went to the satellite site and just uploaded tons and tons of pictures,' she told the publication. 'I really doubt aliens took it.'
She is an active online personality on multiple forums where she just participates in discussions like anybody else. I am on another forum where she is a regular member who posts frequently.

It doesn't surprise me that she is out digging around through online resources in some web forum and participating in online discussion just like we are. You should take her comments the same way you would from anyone here, that's likely the spirit in which they were posted.
 
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totally outclassed, out-debated and outed on your facts, post upon post and thread upon thread by Blue Laser, so resorting to cheap shots elsewhere eh?? looks good on ya! Where's Blackrock when you need him. Oh, in the other room sleeping?
Yeah where is Bluerock in this thread and the current police brutality thread...things that make you go hmmmmmn.
 

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This makes no sense. All they would have to do is call the NSA, GCHQ, or CCES. They have already admitted that they can track and collect all your data anywhere on the planet. And those black boxes are indestructible and give off a beacon signal so that you can find it even at the bottom of the ocean for 30 days ! It's got to be military. Somebody or something on that plane was REALLY important to someone. I'm sure the passengers are dead by now and the plane will be used as some sort of blackswan to trigger WWIII. The Globalists are pissed they didn't get what they wanted in Syria and Russia isn't co-operating with the Coup d'etat in the Ukraine. And throw in the fact that nobody is buying US Treasuries anymore and the criminal elite are pissed. Expect a false flag as a prelude to WWIII. And know that the authours for " A New American Century ". Or Ziotards, BELIEVE they can win a first strike nuclear War with Russia.

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This makes no sense. All they would have to do is call the NSA, GCHQ, or CCES. They have already admitted that they can track and collect all your data anywhere on the planet. And those black boxes are indestructible and give off a beacon signal so that you can find it even at the bottom of the ocean for 30 days ! It's got to be military. Somebody or something on that plane was REALLY important to someone. I'm sure the passengers are dead by now and the plane will be used as some sort of blackswan to trigger WWIII. The Globalists are pissed they didn't get what they wanted in Syria and Russia isn't co-operating with the Coup d'etat in the Ukraine. And throw in the fact that nobody is buying US Treasuries anymore and the criminal elite are pissed. Expect a false flag as a prelude to WWIII. And know that the authours for " A New American Century ". Or Ziotards, BELIEVE they can win a first strike nuclear War with Russia.

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Under this (consoiracy) theory, the plane is being refueled in Diego Garcia and is going to be used in an attack on Israel.

This is the mother of all conspiracy theories about the airplane: (Aardie will tell us if it is true)


Kremlin: Malaysian Flight 370 Hijacked by US Navy to protect ‘Suspicious Cargo’
March 18, 2014


American mainstream media outlets have yet to demand from the Obama regime radar plots and satellite images of the Indian Ocean and South China Sea regions as the US military covers this entire area from Diego Garcia like no other seas in the world due to its vital shipping and air lanes. Photo of Diego Garcia atoll: Wikipedia Commons

A new report circulating in the Kremlin prepared by the Russian Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces (GRU) states that Aerospace Defence Forces (VKO) experts remain “puzzled” as to why the United States Navy “captured and then diverted” a Malaysia Airlines civilian aircraft from its intended flight-path to their vast and highly-secretive Indian Ocean base located on the Diego Garcia atoll.

According to this report, Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 (also marketed as China Southern Airlines flight 748 through a codeshare) was a scheduled passenger flight from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, to Beijing, China, when on 8 March this Boeing 777-200ER aircraft“disappeared” in flight with 227 passengers on board from 15 countries, most of whom were Chinese, and 12 crew members.

Interesting to note, this report says, was that Flight 370 was already under GRU “surveillance” after it received a “highly suspicious” cargo load that had been traced to the Indian Ocean nation Republic of Seychelles, and where it had previously been aboard the US-flagged container ship MV Maersk Alabama.

What first aroused GRU suspicions regarding the MV Maersk Alabama, this report continues, was that within 24-hours of off-loading this “highly suspicious” cargo load bound for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, the two highly-trained US Navy Seals assigned to protect it, Mark Daniel Kennedy, 43, and Jeffrey Keith Reynolds, 44, were found dead under “suspicious circumstances.”

Both Kennedy and Reynolds, this report says, were employed by the Virginia Beach, Virginia-based maritime security firm The Trident Group which was founded by US Navy Special Operations Personnel (SEAL’s) and Senior US Naval Surface Warfare Officers and has long been known by the GRU to protect vital transfers of both atomic and biological materials throughout the world.

Upon GRU “assests” confirming that this “highly suspicious” cargo was aboard Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 on 8 March, this report notes, Moscow notified China’s Ministry of State Security (MSS) of their concerns and received “assurances” that “all measures” would be taken as to ascertain what was being kept so hidden when this aircraft entered into their airspace.

However, this report says, and as yet for still unknown reasons, the MSS was preparing to divert Flight 370 from its scheduled destination of Beijing to Haikou Meilan International Airport (HAK) located in Hainan Province (aka Hainan Island).

Prior to entering the People Liberation Army (PLA) protected zones of the South China Sea known as the Spratly Islands, this report continues, Flight 370 “significantly deviated” from its flight course and was tracked by VKO satellites and radar flying into the Indian Ocean region and completing its nearly 3,447 kilometer (2,142 miles) flight to Diego Garcia.

Critical to note about Flight 370’s flight deviation, GRU experts in this report say, was that it occurred during the same time period that all of the Spratly Island mobile phone communications operated by China Mobile were being jammed.

China Mobile, it should be noted, extended phone coverage in the Spratly Islands in 2011 so that PLA soldiers stationed on the islands, fishermen, and merchant vessels within the area would be able to use mobile services, and can also provide assistance during storms and sea rescues.

As to how the US Navy was able to divert Flight 370 to its Diego Garcia base, this report says, appears to have been accomplished remotely as this Boeing 777-200ER aircraft is equipped with a fly-by-wire (FBW) system that replaces the conventional manual flight controls of an aircraft with an electronic interface allowing it to be controlled like any drone-type aircraft.

However, this report notes, though this aircraft can be controlled remotely, the same cannot be said of its communication systems which can only be shut down manually; and in the case of Flight 370, its data reporting system was shut down at 1:07 a.m., followed by its transponder (which transmits location and altitude) which was shut down at 1:21 a.m.

What remains “perplexing” about this incident, GRU analysts in this report say, are why the American mainstream media outlets have yet to demand from the Obama regime the radar plots and satellite images of the Indian Ocean and South China Sea regions as the US military covers this entire area from Diego Garcia like no other seas in the world due to its vital shipping and air lanes.

Most sadly, this report concludes, the US is actually able to conceal the reason(s) for the “disappearance” of Flight 370 as they have already done so after the events of 11 September 2011 when the then Bush regime “disappeared” American Airlines Flight 77and its 64 passengers and crew after falsely claiming it hit the Pentagon, but which was confirmed by the CNN News Service [see video HERE] not to have happened.
 

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At first I was :confused: But I believe what you my be thinking of was the Soviet phased-array radar in Krasnoyarsk, Siberia which was a violation of the ABM treaty.

So no this is different OTH-B can look up but principally it looks down but well over the horizon. A a traditional radar can look at the moon but it can't look at something at 40 meters off the surface 500 miles away an OTH-B radar can.

Phased-array! That's it! What's so special about phased array radar? Doesn't the U.S. have Anti-Ballistic Missile systems?

(I saw a bit of Crimson Tide last night. Love that show!)
 

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Yup. Pitot tube blocked. I believe it was icing though.
A different crash - there was an almost in Australia that I recall reading was caused by wasps.
Unbelievable. It's amazing how something little can create havoc in unusual circumstances. If I recall, the Pitot Tube gives a measure of air speed via air flow vs. instruments that measure surface distance travelled.

Mayday is one of my favourite shows. Those investigators are the best sleuths around.
 

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I was under the same understanding but I have since read that the Inmarsat SAT Antenna is itself a transponding 2 way device independant of the ACARS module and that it pings the Inmarsat constellation when VHF ACARS comm is unavailable. The antenna itself is powered and a full transciever itself. It will transmit empty messages with only its ID, and the Satellite will reply in acknowledgement.

Inmarsat said this is how they got the pings for several hours.
I don't know what to tell you. Am I going to trust a "CNN expert" after some of the horseshit I've heard from their experts over the years, or am I going to trust the guy who maintains the ACARS system on my Boeing? My bet is on my crew. If it's independent of ACARS, than it's not an ACARS signal. It's either ACARS, or it's not. I don't doubt that a satellite can receive signals from non-satellite ACARS equipped aircraft, I'm just saying that what I have been told, by guys whose job it is to maintain ACARS systems on actual aircraft, have said it can't be an ACARS signal. But there are DOZENS of communication systems on aircraft. Inmarsat, to my understanding, hasn't mentioned ACARS at all. They've mentioned a signal. Why everyone seems so intent that it must be ACARS is beyond me. Not to mention why no one seems to care that, as has been mentioned before, sat comm signals can lag up to 5 hours.
 

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Now a couple of the talking heads on CNN are saying do not rule out mechanical failure. It is possible that there was mechanical failure over the South China Sea, the pilot turned the plane back (westward) towards Malaysia and then the shit hit the fan and nobody really knows what really happened after that. But, why no "Mayday" from the pilot or co-pilot? Ghost plane.
There could be many reasons. The mechanical problem could have knocked out communications. Or, perhaps the nature of the problem was so severe that they were too busy to radio in. The cardinal rule of flying is "aviate, navigate, communicate". Your primary job is to fly the plane. Your secondary job is to fly it somewhere (ie if your engines have failed, find yourself a suitable landing location). Thirdly, talk to someone. If you're so busy relaying your mayday that you stall and crash, or manage to put yourself in a position that you're no longer able to make it to a suitable landing location, you goofed. If they're busy flying and navigating, the crew might not have had a chance to call in a mayday. Or perhaps there was interference so the signal couldn't go through.
 
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