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Man who hasn't had sex in 19 years kills 3 and wounds 9 women

ultraviolet

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There's a saying, the cause of the cause is the true cause of the problem.

I'd be curious to know, what do you think caused him to be like this?

Did society and our current culture play a hand?

The reason I ask is I can't help but think a guy that had his money and his looks in Asia, Latin America or Eastern Europe would be treated like a god.
 

S.C. Joe

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Heck I just thought of this right now...maybe cause I'm not in to spanking, bounage, etc but this jerk may had real enjoy seeing certain escorts / you know the ones who will allow themselves to be spank, etc by their clients. They are out there and heck he may had a blast....he seemed like that type who enjoy hurting others :(
 

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I doubt that's the case, SC Joe - those guys tend to have respect for women in spite of the atmosphere an outsider might sense.
He'd definitely be on a bad client list with any type of woman.
 

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Brill said:
He'd definitely be on a bad client list with any type of woman.
Indeed.

This guy obviously resented and blamed women for the disjuncture between his sense of entitlement and reality.

Guys like him tend to be bad clients because they resent the fact that they have to pay to have access to a woman. Not only to they hate women in general, but they particularly hate the ones who make themselves available to them but for a fee.
 

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After reading his blog, he sounds like someone who had low self-esteem coupled with a few anti-social tendancies before he finally went bezerk. This might have been due to his upbringing in life. All it takes is parents who don't show a lot of emotion as mentioned in his writings. This is of course no excuse to go on a rampage and shoot a couple of women. As you're reading his blog, you can see factors that are shared by many others in the world such as not having a girlfriend, being a loner, misogynists but not everyone plans and suceeds in killing people. I believe he had a "poor me, no one likes me, I am nothing" type attitude and that he created this world for himself.

There are some people out there who have had horrible upbringings who become fully functioning adults. There are also hobbyist out there (and I have met a few of these men) that are loner types. They have a poor self image of themselves and cut themselves off from the world making their social skills incomplete even if they appear to functional with a job/career and day-to day routines. They make up excuses or justify as to why they can't get a girlfriend, that they're a loser, etc, etc, etc, etc. They begin to resent others who have want THEY THINK they can't have. At times I have felt bad for them but then I begin to think that they could have very well created this life for themselves. Not always though as there are other factors to consider like their upbringing which is a huge clue that may determine someone's personality and/or behaviour. And sadly, some of them in the end DID turn out to be bad clients who I wrote off once they began to be rude or demeaning towards me.

The way I see it is if you don't like something about yourself, then change it. Don't make excuses. There are some things I don't like about myself but I don't think of going out shooting a couple of women in a gym because I'm not a size zero. If you view yourself a certain way, people will think the same thing. Just as this guy exhibited the characteristics and behaviours when women turned him down. This is a case of a self fulfilling prophecy in every way.
 

Jade4u

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There must have been something about the guy that triggered the women to know he had problems. The way he talked the way he carried himself. There was a guy that used to show up earlier and earlier each and everyday where I used to work and would actually sit on the bench in the mall outside the store waiting and waiting till I had opened the store. I was always about 45 minutes earler and sometimes an hour earlier getting things ready inside. That and the way he kept calling my name and wanting to talk always. Some guys behaviours will indeed scare women away. He was indeed always friendly and kind but I got bad vibes about him even before he started showing earlier and earlier. Maybe he was indeed harmless, but I went with instincts and did not wish to find out.
 

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Jade4u said:
He was indeed always friendly and kind but I got bad vibes about him even before he started showing earlier and earlier. Maybe he was indeed harmless, but I went with instincts and did not wish to find out.

that's probably your backward rationalization - the fact he started weird behavior made you think the vibe was off to start with. anyways, the ironic thing is that for these type of men, they actually think their behaviour is a romantic gesture, but the effect is exactly the opposite - creepy
 

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Alex_Ontario said:
After reading his blog, he sounds like someone who had low self-esteem coupled with a few anti-social tendancies before he finally went bezerk. This might have been due to his upbringing in life. All it takes is parents who don't show a lot of emotion as mentioned in his writings. This is of course no excuse to go on a rampage and shoot a couple of women. As you're reading his blog, you can see factors that are shared by many others in the world such as not having a girlfriend, being a loner, misogynists but not everyone plans and suceeds in killing people. I believe he had a "poor me, no one likes me, I am nothing" type attitude and that he created this world for himself.

There are some people out there who have had horrible upbringings who become fully functioning adults. There are also hobbyist out there (and I have met a few of these men) that are loner types. They have a poor self image of themselves and cut themselves off from the world making their social skills incomplete even if they appear to functional with a job/career and day-to day routines. They make up excuses or justify as to why they can't get a girlfriend, that they're a loser, etc, etc, etc, etc. They begin to resent others who have want THEY THINK they can't have. At times I have felt bad for them but then I begin to think that they could have very well created this life for themselves. Not always though as there are other factors to consider like their upbringing which is a huge clue that may determine someone's personality and/or behaviour. And sadly, some of them in the end DID turn out to be bad clients who I wrote off once they began to be rude or demeaning towards me.

The way I see it is if you don't like something about yourself, then change it. Don't make excuses. There are some things I don't like about myself but I don't think of going out shooting a couple of women in a gym because I'm not a size zero. If you view yourself a certain way, people will think the same thing. Just as this guy exhibited the characteristics and behaviours when women turned him down. This is a case of a self fulfilling prophecy in every way.

Alex maybe you're right in your assessment of the situation who really knows? What really didn't make sense is why a senior partner at a law firm was allowed to make a diagnosis of this obviously disturbed individuals psyche:confused: ?

IMHO these opinions should best be left for a trained Psychiatrist or Psychologist too make. They are the only two types of medical professionals who can make an official diagnosis after all.

A senior partner at a law firm doesn't have the medical training and experience to diagnose this guy as having an anti-social disorder. She very well could be right but she could be very wrong as well.

The newspaper article I was referring too was referred to upthread somewhere?
 

ultraviolet

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I hear a lot of things condemning the guy, and certainly his actions deserve condemnation.

But I think it's no accident that these kinds of things have been happening more frequently, and I think it's part of a larger societal issue.

I don't agree with everything but I think this person made a number of good points:
http://fbardamu.wordpress.com/2009/08/06/george-sodini-and-the-contract-between-the-sexes/

Once again, look beyond the cause, it's the cause behind the cause that is the real cause.
 

S.C. Joe

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So there is "nice" guys who still find a partner.

I think this guy was either way too picky in the women he wanted. Did not try the right areas..did he join any dating services, they even have them just for professionals, he was not a lawyer but did work in a law firm.

Or he had something mentally wrong....he ever see a doctor?


All this easy to get guns in the USA wasn't no help either. I seen the on-line gun dealer that sold him the weapons also sold a gun or accessories to the shooters in the Virginia Tech and Northern Illinois University attacks.

http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/st...ALER?SITE=OKSHA&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

The gun dealer broke no US laws...something is wrong right there
 

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I think I understand how a guy like this can end up where he did. Clearly he had issues with social interaction, probably the result of poor socialization in his early life. I wonder about his core relationship with his parents. But fundamentally I think he was responsible no matter how bad a hand he was delt.
I myself had issues early in my life - I had serious acne from age 16 on, wasn't athletic, big nose, little interest in normal social interaction. Ugly little weirdo. Pre puberty I was a loner because I just wasn't interested in what other people were doing or thinking, unless I met someone who was extraordinary - talented, charismatic, physically above average... I lived in my head, and was fascinated by what I could cook up there. My parents were good people but very english, and I think there was a kind of fear of sex outside of a very narrow understanding of its proper place. I remember not wanting them to know I was attracted to women, and I shared their confusion about sex, but in total isolation. There was a split in me between a sense that sex was sacred, and the drive that made me fantasize about acquiring the power to stop time for everyone but myself so I could go around looking up women's dresses and feeling their boobs. Basically, I intuited the value of real conection with deeper natural (pleasure, reproduction) and spiritual (vision of beauty, from the nipple to the galactic spiral) experience that sex can be, but I didn't have the social experience (or the interest in it) to bring these two drives together. (for style critics, please feel free to ignore bracketed text. I'm winging it here.)
My family moved from one end of the country to the other at precisely the point in time where I was getting interested in girls, and I had to build new relationships with bad acne, very high standards and a lack of social skills. This, from an objective point of view, is not a particularly promising starting point.
Late in highschool, my loner skills (I have to this day many personal interests and persuits that I find fascinating and rewarding, and these continue to grow in depth over time) paid off big when it turned out I could write poetry, and I ended up dating the most beautiful smart girl in the school. I still have dreams about her. That relationship was a rocket ride, and the peak occurred just before physical intimacy was about to erupt. I was just very unskilled and tentative, and much more comfortable in my own head. She got that, and even as an unusually perceptive person, didn't know what to do with it. Pretty understandable as she was in grade 10 at the time. So I went from loser to champ to 'the guy who threw it all away' in 6 months.
Here I get to my point: I went through hell for a year or two, taking lsd and attempting to have friends, skipping class at university, etc. while trying to figure out where to put the blame. I was the world's biggest loser, or she was evil incarnate. It had to be one of the two. This guy was playing that game. If I kept doing that, I would never have gotten to know how to deal with women, or people in general. I realized that even if I was the world's biggest loser, I was responsible for how I delt with it. Once I got that, I was no longer obsessed with a single unattainable vision of beauty. I had music, and literature and philsophy and movies....
And I gradually realized that I could assemble a life as close to ideal as is reasonable to expect. I am glad now I didn't get married. I don't have to have ONE PERSON whose life revolves around me. I think that is more likely to be grief for someone like me, in the long term. I am at the age now where I see my friends who were conventionally successful working through divorce number one, with pre- and teen kids that they have to take responsibility for. Those couples without kids are getting really old really fast. Some of them are happy, but I wouldn't be if I were in their position.

I now find it easy to enjoy people, and would probably marry someone like my highschool sweety if she came along and it all worked out. That hasn't happened yet. I work among young people and they enjoy me as much as I enjoy them. I have a nice job that helped a lot with my social skills, and now find myself attractive to others. My day consists of helping university students, so I personally meet probably 100 stunningly beautiful young women a year. Of these, I make serious friends with one or two a year. (Yes, a 50 year old can make friends with a 20 year old. It's all in the attitude.) Of the others, there will be maybe 10 who will beam a great warm smile at me when I run across them in the hallways. This is pure energy! I can get high enough off of one of these encounters to last at least two days. I have also been hit on by several over the years, but didn't take them up as I knew that I didn't want to be with them long term for various reasons... one was a dancer with 34ds and a 24' waist who unfotunately had some personal habits that turned me off, another a doctoral student who was beautiful but had a son, another was just too emotionally needy... I wasn't going to be there for these people long term, and since that was what they wanted I wasn't going to waste their time. I have had serious relationships where you go around hand in hand and tell each other about your day, and it was nice but not essential for my well being. I have cats, they are good for that just-want-to-feel-loved thing. gtttttttttttttttttttttth - that was one of them putting in his thoughts. At least a wife wouldn't walk across the laptop as I type. Maybe I should reconsider...
And I have the greatest physical love resource there is, a woman who is young, energetic, shifts personality from one day to the next, has perfect little body parts or big warm soft ones, blonde, brunette, redhead, whatever I want is there for me to find at my favorite agencies, as long as I have the $ to pay my way. They don't have to want me for my simple presence (cats). They don't have to value my friendship (university hotties). I have to put some resourses into getting laid, but not so much relative to my married friends - they have to have the house and support the offspring and maintain that 'happy married normal guy' image. I can forget shaving for a week. I get sex when I want it. I can have a nice warm loving presence sitting in my lap, and put it on the floor and have it go away whenever I want it to. I don't need to participate in the human game of family and tradition. I contribute to society through volunteering, and respecting the folks who cross my path from moment to moment.
I also value the depths available in a one hour session with a talented escort. I can imagine becoming friends with some of them, and would welcome it should it occur. I think they are all generous with their bodies, and thank them for that. Some are generous with their personalities, a few with their minds, and fewer yet with their souls. If one doesn't work out, they go away after the hour. I know where I can get recomendations for next time.
If I had decided that women owed me a life, I could have spent my time alienating people and working myself into a nurotic frenzy that might lead to fantasies of projected power involving guns. Instead, I decided I was responsible, no matter what disadvantages I had. I didn't have to focus on my problems and the cruelty of women (and no doubt there is such cruelty, humans can be cruel, get over it). I could realize that there was good shining through the cracks in the dark, and work to open up to the world. Why did I make that choice? It is a personal realization. If you get it, you do, and if you don't you are going to be unhappy no matter what happens in life.
 

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That was a great post, staggerspool.
If only more people were self aware, could figure out their lives and find happiness.
I agree it's a good thing you didn't marry.
 

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Then again, such self-aware postmortems can go too far the other direction, too--like, seeing your old friends, seeing your old friends' daughters, having American Beauty-type fantasies, and realizing that if you went the conventional married/kids route you might wind up a Woody Allenish creepo or worse. So, for mercy's sake, it'd be just as well that you "weren't lucky" (and that metaphor might have particular immediacy if you engage in "the hobby" through TERB with those of daughter age--not to be a scold or anything, just the nature of the beast)
 

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Should women avoid men who follow pickup "scam" artists?


U.S. gunman devoted follower of 'pickup' artist

U.S. gunman devoted follower of 'pickup' artist

Updated: Fri Aug. 07 2009 5:29:42 PM

The Associated Press

BRIDGEVILLE, Pennsylvania — The lonelyhearted man who killed three women in a shooting rampage at a health club knew the book "How to Date Young Women: For Men Over 35" chapter and verse, and was a devoted follower of its author.

In fact, in an online video that surfaced this week, George Sodini can be seen sitting in rapt attention at one of R. Don Steele's dating seminars as the white-haired pickup artist tells a group of men to get over their fears of approaching women and to stop being such nice guys all the time. Then, Sodini is shown shaking hands with one of Steele's beautiful blond assistants as part of an exercise in how to meet women.

The advice and the self-help book -- which promises to show "how to make your fantasies come true" -- evidently didn't do anything to improve Sodini's love life.

Embittered by his decades-long inability to attract the opposite sex, the 48-year-old computer analyst opened fire on a women's aerobics class in the Pittsburgh suburbs Tuesday night, killing three women and wounding nine. Four remained hospitalized Friday, one in serious condition.

In a chilling diary posted on the Internet, he complained that he hadn't had a girlfriend since 1984 and hadn't slept with a woman in 19 years. But before he gave up any hope of finding anyone, he turned to Steele, a 69-year-old dating guru from Whittier, California.

Steele, according to his online biography, grew up in rural Pennsylvania, obtained a master's degree in psychology, and became a marriage and family counsellor in 1976. He began writing books in 1984 and conducts "The Right Attitude Workshop" for men three times a year. He is the owner of Steel Balls Press and is married to a woman 34 years his junior.

In 2006, he told a Canadian newspaper that "women need men to take charge" and that women over 30 are "bitter."

Steele, whose real name is John J. White, did not respond to several email requests for comment. Calls to a phone number listed on his Web site went unanswered Friday.

The undated video of the seminar that Sodini attended, first broadcast Friday on ABC's "Good Morning America," shows Steele writing "NICE GUY MUST DIE" on a whiteboard. "I would say that's the problem with most of the guys in the room, that you're too nice," he says.

He also tells his audience, "It's normal to be scared when you have been hurt by women in the past," and adds: "The first woman that hurt you is your mother. And that lasts a lifetime."

That probably resonated with Sodini, who disparaged his own mother in his online diary as "The Central Boss" and "very dominant." She has not commented on her son's rampage.

In a video he also posted online, Sodini appeared to take encouragement from Steele's advice.

"RDS says that I have approximately, maybe 15 more years to be successful at this," Sodini said. "So my objective is to be real and to learn to be emotional and to be able to emotionally connect with people. Because when I'm 10 to 20 years older than she is, she has to feel good about this thing."

And in another video in which Sodini gave an online tour of his house, the camera panned over a coffee table with a copy of "How to Date Young Women." "There's some reading material that we're all familiar with," he said."

Evidently embracing Steele's philosophy that a man should act like an adult, Sodini showed off a matching sofa and chair in his living room and said, "Women will really be impressed."

In other developments Friday, police said Sodini called his mother about a half-hour before the shooting. But they denied a report in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review that he told her he planned to "kill a bunch of people" and "didn't expect to survive."

While Sodini sounded distraught, he mentioned nothing to his mother about harming himself or others, Allegheny County Assistant Police Superintendent James Morton said.

The funerals for the victims will be held Saturday. Killed were Heidi Overmier, 46, of Carnegie; Jody Billingsley, 37, of Mount Lebanon; and Elizabeth Gannon, 49, of Pittsburgh.

http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/lo...gunman_AM_090807/20090807/?hub=TorontoNewHome
 

Jade4u

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canada-man said:
Should women avoid men who follow pickup "scam" artists?
Most definatly, why should anyone make themselves out to be anything but who they are? To pretend to be someone you are not will not bring about happiness. Like a really good song, act naturally.
 

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staggerspool said:
I think I understand how a guy like this can end up where he did. Clearly he had issues with social interaction, probably the result of poor socialization in his early life. I wonder about his core relationship with his parents. But fundamentally I think he was responsible no matter how bad a hand he was delt.
I myself had issues early in my life - I had serious acne from age 16 on, wasn't athletic, big nose, little interest in normal social interaction. Ugly little weirdo. Pre puberty I was a loner because I just wasn't interested in what other people were doing or thinking, unless I met someone who was extraordinary - talented, charismatic, physically above average... I lived in my head, and was fascinated by what I could cook up there. My parents were good people but very english, and I think there was a kind of fear of sex outside of a very narrow understanding of its proper place. I remember not wanting them to know I was attracted to women, and I shared their confusion about sex, but in total isolation. There was a split in me between a sense that sex was sacred, and the drive that made me fantasize about acquiring the power to stop time for everyone but myself so I could go around looking up women's dresses and feeling their boobs. Basically, I intuited the value of real conection with deeper natural (pleasure, reproduction) and spiritual (vision of beauty, from the nipple to the galactic spiral) experience that sex can be, but I didn't have the social experience (or the interest in it) to bring these two drives together. (for style critics, please feel free to ignore bracketed text. I'm winging it here.)
My family moved from one end of the country to the other at precisely the point in time where I was getting interested in girls, and I had to build new relationships with bad acne, very high standards and a lack of social skills. This, from an objective point of view, is not a particularly promising starting point.
Late in highschool, my loner skills (I have to this day many personal interests and persuits that I find fascinating and rewarding, and these continue to grow in depth over time) paid off big when it turned out I could write poetry, and I ended up dating the most beautiful smart girl in the school. I still have dreams about her. That relationship was a rocket ride, and the peak occurred just before physical intimacy was about to erupt. I was just very unskilled and tentative, and much more comfortable in my own head. She got that, and even as an unusually perceptive person, didn't know what to do with it. Pretty understandable as she was in grade 10 at the time. So I went from loser to champ to 'the guy who threw it all away' in 6 months.
Here I get to my point: I went through hell for a year or two, taking lsd and attempting to have friends, skipping class at university, etc. while trying to figure out where to put the blame. I was the world's biggest loser, or she was evil incarnate. It had to be one of the two. This guy was playing that game. If I kept doing that, I would never have gotten to know how to deal with women, or people in general. I realized that even if I was the world's biggest loser, I was responsible for how I delt with it. Once I got that, I was no longer obsessed with a single unattainable vision of beauty. I had music, and literature and philsophy and movies....
And I gradually realized that I could assemble a life as close to ideal as is reasonable to expect. I am glad now I didn't get married. I don't have to have ONE PERSON whose life revolves around me. I think that is more likely to be grief for someone like me, in the long term. I am at the age now where I see my friends who were conventionally successful working through divorce number one, with pre- and teen kids that they have to take responsibility for. Those couples without kids are getting really old really fast. Some of them are happy, but I wouldn't be if I were in their position.

I now find it easy to enjoy people, and would probably marry someone like my highschool sweety if she came along and it all worked out. That hasn't happened yet. I work among young people and they enjoy me as much as I enjoy them. I have a nice job that helped a lot with my social skills, and now find myself attractive to others. My day consists of helping university students, so I personally meet probably 100 stunningly beautiful young women a year. Of these, I make serious friends with one or two a year. (Yes, a 50 year old can make friends with a 20 year old. It's all in the attitude.) Of the others, there will be maybe 10 who will beam a great warm smile at me when I run across them in the hallways. This is pure energy! I can get high enough off of one of these encounters to last at least two days. I have also been hit on by several over the years, but didn't take them up as I knew that I didn't want to be with them long term for various reasons... one was a dancer with 34ds and a 24' waist who unfotunately had some personal habits that turned me off, another a doctoral student who was beautiful but had a son, another was just too emotionally needy... I wasn't going to be there for these people long term, and since that was what they wanted I wasn't going to waste their time. I have had serious relationships where you go around hand in hand and tell each other about your day, and it was nice but not essential for my well being. I have cats, they are good for that just-want-to-feel-loved thing. gtttttttttttttttttttttth - that was one of them putting in his thoughts. At least a wife wouldn't walk across the laptop as I type. Maybe I should reconsider...
And I have the greatest physical love resource there is, a woman who is young, energetic, shifts personality from one day to the next, has perfect little body parts or big warm soft ones, blonde, brunette, redhead, whatever I want is there for me to find at my favorite agencies, as long as I have the $ to pay my way. They don't have to want me for my simple presence (cats). They don't have to value my friendship (university hotties). I have to put some resourses into getting laid, but not so much relative to my married friends - they have to have the house and support the offspring and maintain that 'happy married normal guy' image. I can forget shaving for a week. I get sex when I want it. I can have a nice warm loving presence sitting in my lap, and put it on the floor and have it go away whenever I want it to. I don't need to participate in the human game of family and tradition. I contribute to society through volunteering, and respecting the folks who cross my path from moment to moment.
I also value the depths available in a one hour session with a talented escort. I can imagine becoming friends with some of them, and would welcome it should it occur. I think they are all generous with their bodies, and thank them for that. Some are generous with their personalities, a few with their minds, and fewer yet with their souls. If one doesn't work out, they go away after the hour. I know where I can get recomendations for next time.
If I had decided that women owed me a life, I could have spent my time alienating people and working myself into a nurotic frenzy that might lead to fantasies of projected power involving guns. Instead, I decided I was responsible, no matter what disadvantages I had. I didn't have to focus on my problems and the cruelty of women (and no doubt there is such cruelty, humans can be cruel, get over it). I could realize that there was good shining through the cracks in the dark, and work to open up to the world. Why did I make that choice? It is a personal realization. If you get it, you do, and if you don't you are going to be unhappy no matter what happens in life.

Hey! WTF is this? Some guy pretending to me! WTF? :D

You and I think very very similarly. I can tell that you are a wise and learned man.
 

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Jade4u said:
Most definatly, why should anyone make themselves out to be anything but who they are? To pretend to be someone you are not will not bring about happiness. Like a really good song, act naturally.

You mean sorta like fake tits? Or am I missing something.

Yes, a bit flip, but I trust you get my point...
 

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Terminator2000 said:
last word: to the guys who can't figure out why he didn't spend his huge fortune on escorts - maybe its cause he saw the hypocritical idiocy of paying a girl to spend time with you? and chose not to waste his money that way?
Hypocritical idiocy? I doubt he saw very much blowing his head off and ruining the lives of countless innocent others. He was whinning about not having sex (not love) in 19 years. Would blowing $200 would have killed him. He got a promotion during a brutal economy and many job cuts so the guy performed at work well. Of course he never saw much positivity in that. Hell, I would have taken him on a trip to south america and gotten him so much pussy (paid and otherwise) that he'd be begging me to take him back home.

You comment about him wasting his money. Is his money doing him much good now?

BTW, I know a guy at work in his 50's who is a nutcase and just like this guy, except far worse looking. It's likely many of us do.
 
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