The problem here is that....even though we might not h ave "castle law" the duty to retreat is out of discussion since you're already in your abode which is suppose to be your safe place, your refuge, and once someone broke into that safe place, it is no longer safe for you and you are in direct threat of violence...discharging a firearm might just be your only way out...
Milton Man, 22, charged with murder after fatally shooting suspect who tried to rob his house, lawyer says
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Some people might argue you are supposed to "de-escalate" the situation.
Shooting the culprit in the back is to ensure he/she/they don't come back and burn your house down.
Okay I misunderstood in that case, I apologize. I was just outraged by the way the police were spinning that story per my other post.
It very much is up to our society how we deal with people like this, humans who commit these type of acts aren't human. They're something else and deserve every action coming their way
That is why we as a society have institutions such as the courts to judge and convict as necessary. And yes they are very much human and demonizing them is just your own mental gymnastics to support something that is fundamentally grotesque.
I wouldn't call it exacting revenge...more like taking matters seriously...if a criminal had the balls to take out a cop....he's probably killed a lot of civilians or won't h esitate to kill one...most criminals are opportunistic and will prey on the weak and vulnerable and would avoid cops...
No that is not why.
It is gang like behavior. It has nothing to do with "taking matters seriously".
It is an us vs them mentality that cops have and the moment someone kills a cop the entire police force gangs up on the guy not to arrest and bring the guy to justice, but to murder him. This is not new. It is a well documented fact.
There was a case a while ago, where a car passed by a parked police vehicle and as it did, backfired. The cop thought he was being fired at. Some 40 or 50 squad cars gave chase, cornered the couple (black couple I must add) in the car, and riddled the car with bullets with each person being shot over 50 times.
Cops are nothing but glorified goons in uniform. They need to be put in their place.
Grand jury? Are you in the US or Liberia? Because those are the only two places where those exist.
Interesting article which states the following regarding unlawful home entry:
Sections 34 and 35 of the code say someone is not guilty of an offence if their actions were a “reasonable” response to a threat of or actual use of force, or to stop someone from entering or damaging property without permission.
Here is the link: https://apple.news/Abqe6m3OgRiKt7VoabmEmNA
Sections 34 and 35 of the code say someone is not guilty of an offence if their actions were a “reasonable” response to a threat of or actual use of force, or to stop someone from entering or damaging property without permission.
Here is the link: https://apple.news/Abqe6m3OgRiKt7VoabmEmNA
We have preliminary hearings my bad. Grade 11 law was a long time ago. Cops investigate but its the crown attorneys who determine whether there is sufficient evidence to lay charges.
I agree that maybe as many as 10% of cops are as bad as the thugs that they are supposedly protecting us from - furthermore they have the wolf pack mentality .
Having said that 100 % of criminals are thugs and I have no regrets no matter what fate they end up getting . I have no problem saying good riddance to them. Current crime statistics is conclusively showing that the justice system and the parole system is doing a horrendous job in protecting us due to our increasingly WOKE SOCIETY worrying more about the criminal than the innocent.
The current system with plea bargains etc make criminals out of people who are not criminals. That said, it is a dystopian world if we justify extra judicial killings of criminals by the police, rather than arrest them and bring them to justice (which is actually the police force's job) because you think there is a problem with the justice/parole system. It is the law and every person deserving due process is a constitutional right.
You are 100% correct. I find these cases can be difficult to understand on occasion. And nobody can say how they would react if this happened to their family/home. I would like to know more of the details regarding this. I mean, why was this guy's home targeted? Apparently the CBC has a quote from a neighbour who says a week ago masked people were scoping the backyard out...So, immediately I wonder if this Mian guy was into drugs or other illegal activity. Or, does his family run a jewelry store or something like that.
There is a reason why the police are called the world's biggest street gang. But, also, I find it interesting how they are able to take some mass shooters (i.e. Dylan Roof) alive, but an "illegal" is ventilated....Now, I will say that police are allowed (and should be allowed) to use deadly force in situations where someone is actively shooting at people. But this sheriff's glib responses are just a little beyond the pale...
If someone breaks into your home with the intent to murder you, by not killing them, they can come back better prepared to be successful another time.
A planned armed break and enter is not a "mistake" and it's not to be taken lightly.
I agree.
I have a friend in a nice quiet area in Toronto, who had 2 guys with baseball bat break in at 3am in a almost military style hit that sent him to the hospital for a month with broken head and other bones.
Police did nothing, except urging him to drop a law suit against somebody.
I have guns and a reputation for being slightly crazy.
We don’t have grand juries, it goes to a preliminary hearing and decided by the courts.
Then the cops had something to go on. I'm surprised they didn't do anything besides giving bad advice.
