Does anyone else think this new terb is a heaping pile of crap?
New terb
- Thread starter Jim Nova
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Its just gonna take some time to get used to the change. I hated it too. But after some use it gets better, embrace it. The DM feature is a little better and WOW now I can updoot posts. Just like Facebook.
You should ask for a refund of your membership fee.....oh, that's right I forgot, its free
It took a while to get used to but personally I really like it.
The team here does a fantastic job in my opinion.
The team here does a fantastic job in my opinion.
Some work needs to be done, but be patient.
Once they work out the kinks and tighten up the features, you'll wonder why they didn't do this sooner.
Right now I don't like the spacing. Too much white space.
Once they work out the kinks and tighten up the features, you'll wonder why they didn't do this sooner.
Right now I don't like the spacing. Too much white space.
I really like the update.
- Very uncluttered layout that's easy on the eyes.
- My favourite: ability to like or react with emojis to a post instead of responding
- fave #2: consolidated/improved search function
- previously the searching within a thread was at the top of a thread while the searching within a forum was at the top of the page
- the most intuitive and helpful options of the search function, such as the ability to select particular sub-forums to search within, are right on the main search function and you do not need to go to a completely separate page
- Bookmarking, sharing and reporting a post feel more prominent and accessible to me, although I could be wrong.
- the signatures collapse (ISSUE: when a signature is expanded, the button under it doesn't change the wording to "collapse signature")
- the "Jump to new" and "watch" buttons at the top of a thread
- no ADS (I suppose this is probably temporary)
- Likes
- I wish instead of "Like" it said something different like "Reaction" which is a little clearer that it allows more than just supporting a post
- also wish it has some additional options (especially options that allow lurkers to express support or disdain without investing time and getting into exhausting back-and-forths)
- a thumbs down
- a rolling the eyes
- emoji to mark a post as being irrelevant to the topic or the section of the forum it has been posted to. I don't mean a report here. I mean a visible way to allow lurkers and readers to express their support or disdain for posts without having to type something out and get into a pointless back-and-forth with someone.
- to add to the above, I want there to be a way to convey to providers who are reading harsh comments, rude reviews or unnecessarily cruel opinions from people who have never seen them, that those posts (hopefully) do not reflect the majority of the readership, without the reader having to invest time and energy into posting some response.
- more moderation - obviously the forum needs to be a place that clients can share their experiences with providers BUT it cannot be toxic for providers to participate
- I find so many of the posts in the Toronto escort reviews section to be counter to this. Things like:
- unnecessarily cruel comments
- blowhards and people who haven't even seen a particular girl voicing an opinion about her looks, service, rates etc.
- arguments and discussions between posters that are not reviews in the review section
- review sections should only contain actual reviews or questions to the reviewer and their responses; all other opinions, musings, arguments and the like should just be deleted from those sections
- I do not know how this works currently, but I wonder if it is possible to have two levels of moderation:
- community moderators - unpaid, can flag/hide posts, can warn posters, need approval from paid mods for deletion or banning of posters
- paid moderators
- a section of the board that servers as a forum for mods to discuss their decisions on various posts etc.
- I find so many of the posts in the Toronto escort reviews section to be counter to this. Things like:
- more prominence given to resources for sex workers, especially the blacklist, stories on what it is like to be a SW, advice for things like settings and asserting boundaries and managing client interactions, especially with de-escalation in mind, childcare and other support resources.
- ADs (if they are coming back)
- I realize that the ads will probably return, but hopefully the ads will not be jarring and tacky and instead fit within the visuals of the website
- is it possible to have ads from lingerie/sex shops, sex-worker friendly services (lawyers, doctors, therapists, various other support)? not sure how the website is run or what options are out there, but if someone were to solicit an AD deal from some such businesses, especially local ones, it might be mutually beneficial
- is it possible to enforce an aesthetic style for people submitting ad banners?
The mods suggested a standard format for reviews some months ago. I agree that more courtesy towards SW's would be nice at times. Maybe allowing mods to "tone down" certain reviews by taking out the very sexist or cruel comments?
I was debating the issue of reviews being too detailed and explicit with myself yesterday; but OTOH the girls themselves are now putting very detailed photos and videos and verbal content on OF or even on Twitter. So I wonder if this is even an issue?
In the current climate, where there is often massive antagonism between some of the Twitter indies and board members, I wonder if having a section where women discuss customers and their experiences isn't asking for catastrophe? And also Twitter is now full of posts where SW's go off on guys who don't shower, time-wasters who DM frequently and never book, etc. Not sure TERB is a useful forum for minor, day-to-day issues which are AMPLY aired on Twitter. Even blacklists are going to get political, as there are now whispering slander campaigns from some SW's against some customers who have opinions about rate structure they dislike, or between groups of girls.
I would LOVE to write some opinion pieces on rate structure and politics in the local industry and would be happy to submit them to Fred ahead of time for redaction, if necessary. TERB has heretofore been heartily against any general history and industry structure opinion pieces being written. I could also submit legal articles, if TERB would platform them. But this has always been an issue and TERB has always felt it was safer to stick with the straight-on traditional review content format.
I'm not sure professional ads get enough traffic on TERB to be worthwhile, based on my own past experience.
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TERB is a review forum. It does not police the industry nor is it here to set industry standards.
That is not what TERB is or should be about.
Also, other things you are asking for are or already have been made available. You may just not be privy to it.
I agree. The amount(minimal) of moderation is much welcomed and should be exercised with a lot of thought and good judgement, otherwise the forum will become worthless.
I'm not sure I follow what part of my post you're responding to. Where have I asked to "police the industry or set industry standards"?
I will to some extent disagree with you, surprise!!! LOL
Pre Terb Ontario was the wild wild west. Service was shit, bait n switch was rampant.
After Terb and the worry of a legitimate poor review and the money the ladies made from a good review the industry did change and for the good.
Remove the shills and the bad reviews with an agenda, the forum serves a huge service.
Review sites do not police the industry. They may be used as a form of accountability for the provider if she cares but TERB is nothing more then a review platform like Google has or Amazon. They give a place for people to share their experience with a product or service but they leave the industry of that product or service to set their own rules and regulations.
Also Pre-TERB was pre-internet. I think the internet itself had more to do with the change in the industry, then TERB itself did.
As to the other poster since there seems to be no multi-quote option with this new software or if there is, I have not found it yet.
I meant to quote Oagre, not you. His talks about "rate structure" pieces and industry standards. That has no place on TERB.
Sorry for the confusion.
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I will disagree again to a certain extent.
Yes, you are correct as Terb or clients do not set the prices and policies of the agencies or ladies, this we agree on 100% but we should be able to state if we are receiving fair value for money paid. Is there better value elsewhere for less money paid? Is so and so over-hyped or is she an amazing provider? What services are provided for XXXX dollars barring YMMV (STD, doesn't want to shower, etc)?
It's a review board and this is what most here want to know.
Especially now during COVID it's very important to know the services like Kissing no kissing, BJ vs CBJ . daty vs no daty. For the dudes and ladies willing to take a chance right now it's important to know the rules of engagement prior to going in so there are no hissy fits in the room from either side.
Who said you can't share? Everything you said is what a review is about.
I said TERB is a review board and therefore does not police the industry. Oagre was talking rate structure and policies in Op-Eds That is not reviews.
I'm confused on where we disagree?
I believe the areas for providers to share conversations and blacklists already exists on TERB, all I'm advocating for is that resources are made more prominent for newer providers. While conversations can be had amongst providers on twitter, I think it's good for them to be active on the board and for the board to serve as a resource to providers as well. I don't think it is a good idea if this board is just purely for the reviewers. I think there should be some balance and that providers should be afforded some more agency here.
Your argument against providers having a blacklist on TERB due to slander campaigns is essentially an argument against TERB existing because the same slander campaigns are carried out by reviewers. Ultimately, there is very little chance of getting any kind of proof of someone's experience with a provider or client. So, it is up to the reader to decide what they choose to believe and similarly, it will be up to providers whether they choose to believe some blacklist entry submitted by another provider.
Where TERB can be a resource for providers compared to twitter is that TERB is more searchable and so it is easy to refer back to posts and discussions, whereas with twitter, things tend to get lost in the ether or lost to a providers account being banned/deleted by twitter.
I don't really think that clients need to have more say in the rate structure beyond voting with our wallets, so-to-speak. There are so many reasons why a provider or agency might change their rates and I find client discussions about rates so pointless. Clients can discuss rates on there until we are blue in the face, but if a provider raises their rates and is making the same amount with fewer clients or making more with the same amount of clients, how will a client discussion on here matter? I have read some posts on here by other reviewers regarding rates and it almost feels like they confuse TERB for some kind of union for clients.
There are many naive clients who need to know they have choices. This is why it's important to discuss in a friendly manner.
I was at the Bisha prior to the pandemic and started chatting with an individual who was from the US at the bar. We hit it off on a business level which worked out great. He was telling me how he had so and so ( I knew of the indy but I will not name her) coming to his place for a 3-hour session. Of course, me being me I asked him, how much? Then I gave him an eye awakening sobering lesson. I showed him the Mirage, the Toronto Passion, SexyFriends and TDL website and recommended a few of the ladies from each agency. I also recommend some indies i.e Sultry Sophia, Bella Squats, and a few others I had to stop him from canceling his appointment as he was dumbfounded. He's also a lurker on Terb now as well. HI BOB (not his real name)!!!
I was at the Bisha prior to the pandemic and started chatting with an individual who was from the US at the bar. We hit it off on a business level which worked out great. He was telling me how he had so and so ( I knew of the indy but I will not name her) coming to his place for a 3-hour session. Of course, me being me I asked him, how much? Then I gave him an eye awakening sobering lesson. I showed him the Mirage, the Toronto Passion, SexyFriends and TDL website and recommended a few of the ladies from each agency. I also recommend some indies i.e Sultry Sophia, Bella Squats, and a few others I had to stop him from canceling his appointment as he was dumbfounded. He's also a lurker on Terb now as well. HI BOB (not his real name)!!!
Everyone at one point was naive that goes without doubt, and nobody wants to be or feel like a sucka!
If there is nothing to hide or shady going on; why would it be a bad idea to discuss openly prices or services?
To Americans this place must either be a life saver or a nightmare that coochie doesn't cost what some twitter circles like to claim, financially nor through screening methods that constitute invasion of privacy!
