No black gentlemen adds

[KittyCaterina]

For all the 6 black males that live in Kingston, Ontario, The SPs in that region have put you on notice.

Let's take these from the many SP's perspective and experiences.

Let's be an open discussion and find the truth, instead of pretending to see the world from Rosie colour glasses

Why do SP posts "no Blacks" and sometimes "No Middle Eastern" and now "No Indian".

Try to see it from their sex life experiences.
Sometimes it's just the size.
Sometimes it's the general nature and their correlation with their associated experience
Sometimes its a personal preference. But often, the personal preference is guided by prior experiences.

Let's take a deep dive once and for all. Let the ladies speak. And please only speak for yourselves, not for others.

Speaking only for myself as you requested...

I see people of all races, all genders (or non-binary), all ages 19+, all abilities, all weights and builds, and so on...

If I am going to make this profession about MY personal sexual preferences including race or skin colour, I may as well request a photo of each potential client as well to see if I am attracted to them too.
This isn't Tinder.

Is sexwork WORK or is it inherently different from other types of work where discrimination is not acceptable?
It's a very complicated question and there is no one right answer as there are too many variables.

We don't know other sexworkers' reasons for race limits; sometimes trauma or small communities ARE valid reasons.
Then there are reasons based off of racial stereotypes and this is when I consider race restrictions to be wrong and discriminatory.

 

[McKenna King]

Speaking only for myself as you requested...

I see people of all races, all genders (or non-binary), all ages 19+, all abilities, all weights and builds, and so on...

If I am going to make this profession about MY personal sexual preferences including race or skin colour, I may as well request a photo of each potential client as well to see if I am attracted to them too.
This isn't Tinder.

Is sexwork WORK or is it inherently different from other types of work where discrimination is not acceptable?
It's a very complicated question and there is no one right answer as there are too many variables.

We don't know other sexworkers' reasons for race limits; sometimes trauma or small communities ARE valid reasons.
Then there are reasons based off of racial stereotypes and this is when I consider race restrictions to be wrong and discriminatory.

Kitty you you articulated this perfectly
This would be my exact response as well!

 

[Theredmilf]

Sadly I’m pretty sure a list of any colour skin man could be made for this. I don’t think only white men have murdered SW.

I don't think I said that actually.

But despite the fact that the most NOTORIOUS and PROLIFIC killers of sex workers and women in general in Canadian history have mainly white (Picton, Benardo, Crawford, Russell Williams, Cléroux…) I don’t think I’ve ever seen an ad that says “no caucasians.” So why is that? And how exactly does this square with the perception that it’s black men who are the scariest clients?

Black folks are literally ONLY 4.3% of the Canadian population and yet is group that gets screened out almost exclusively, why? We also have bad experiences with white guys and others. Some have king cobras, some are rude and agressive, some don’t wash their junk or butts, yet we continue seeing Caucasian guys because one man does not tar them all! We RESPECT that despite the bad apples, some of our BEST guys are white or whatever ethnicity. Maybe we should extend the same generosity to all men?

Black men have in my experience truly IMMACULATE and I mean that these guys could teach a lesson in hygiene: fresh clothing, good breath, nice clear skin… Idk who other providers are seeing—and with all due respect I AM A SEX WORKER and only read a few gents here that are speaking on behalf of other SWs—but the majority of my INDIAN GUYS ARE CLEAN and fresh plus really sweet and polite! There might be the odd monsieur who doesn’t wear deodorant so I give you that, not sure if that’s because of the chemicals or perhaps not liking scent, but with a fresh soapy shower, it’s fine IMHO and honestly white guys have JUST AS MANY hygiene issues to resolve—don’t make me list the gross stuff, we’ve all read it! Thanks to our sweethearts who stay on top of this and are so lovely

I have a lot of empathy for my fellow workers and understand this can be a hard occupation at times with unsavoury moments and so that’s why many of us try to share our experience and help to encourage better safety. I put to you the argument that screening based on race DOES NOT materially improve safety and is also bad for business, limiting the pool of great clients we can attract and so arguably reduces the opportunity for safety and nice dates.

As someone who also sees and respects all races, I have personally experienced that my biggest factor in reducing bad clients is good marketing, professional policies and screening based on “attitude” which is not to say it’s ever a provider’s fault a negative encounter occurs but that we can do a lot to attract great clients and screen bad ones. Something to think about. Hugs

 

[Naste]

As a black male thank you for this. It is about time someone sees the real truth and expresses it so thank you for that. I now need to save some funds to come spend some time with you.

 

[LisaLust24]

Interesting thread.... I think the main point I got from it is that every SP has varying reasons for excluding a particular race or background from their roster.
I see all manner of clients, physicality doesn't play a role. I like to revel in the human being I'm with regardless of race, age (over 19) body type or background.
That being said, my personal experience with black men has been a) the size issue, I'm petite and while not every black man has a huge c@ck, the stereotype has proven itself more often than not and can be uncomfortable. And b) stamina, someone posted about banging away for 40 mins on a hh booking and while stamina varies greatly between men (not race per se) I personally from my experience would say it happens more with black men than others. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a good session but I like a connection and spending the ENTIRE 30 mins straight f@ucking can be exhausting. I also believe that not everyone is beholden their particular races stereotypes so I don't exclude anyone based on past experiences. I personally can't justify BL possible wonderful clients because of what has happened with others of the same race.

 

[Peter485]

different perspective on the issue.

In my travels, I've noticed that black women vs Indian woman vs white women all taste different. Has nothing to do with cleanliness, but their natural taste (and smell). Obviously there are a lot of variation within each group, but to me there is definitely a distinction between groups. I mean, I've never seen porn where the guy says the black girl 'tastes like strawberries', while it's almost a cliche for white girls.

Sometimes people can have a bad reaction to someone's smell, regardless of how much they care for the person. A close friend of mine (white) left his black fiancée because every time she squirted the smell got really intense for him. He tried to get over it, but eventually it got to the point where he had trouble finishing. I can also see the tequila effect happening (... you once got horribly sick drinking tequila, so now you can't even smell the stuff without your body revolting). If a lady who is sensitive to black guys, happens to see a (clean) but strong smelling black guy, it can lead to bad associations.

I will admit that you don't it the other way ('no Caucasians'), but at least some of this may simply be nothing more than body chemistry.

 

[McKenna King]

And b) stamina, someone posted about banging away for 40 mins on a hh booking and while stamina varies greatly between men (not race per se) I personally from my experience would say it happens more with black men than others. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a good session but I like a connection and spending the ENTIRE 30 mins straight f@ucking can be exhausting. I also believe that not everyone is beholden their particular races stereotypes so I don't exclude anyone based on past experiences. I personally can't justify BL possible wonderful clients because of what has happened with others of the same race.

I don’t want this to sound as though I am criticizing your post, or another providers business. But I do find the stamina argument a little interesting.

It’s just my personal belief that it is entirely the providers responsibility to maintain the flow of their booking, and if a clients stamina during the timeframe they have booked is becoming an issue, it should be the providers responsibility to control the flow of the session and either remind the client that they have only booked X amount of time.

Or adopt a policy, as many other providers have, that lets the client know X amount of time is reserved for showering, socializing, fucking, and then tidying up after the fun.
Typically, if a client is only booking a 30 minute session, those sessions are usually going to be 90% fucking… that timeframe does not realistically allow for anything else, especially if you want to socialize with the client. And those 30 minute bookings are usually only going to attract the type of client that wants to spend a generous amount of time having sex.
Just my personal opinion but i feel that a provider should be prepared for that type of session if they’re offering 30 min bookings. 30 mins straight of sex isn’t unreasonable imo. But with the time limitation of only booking 30 minutes, I get why it can be an issue.

I think it’s another discussion altogether if the issue isn’t necessarily with stamina, but rather with how hard they are going for those 30 minutes. But in those cases, I think it is still up to providers to enforce some boundaries and tell the client to slow it down a little and perhaps guide them into some more sensual sex and foreplay.

 

[LisaLust24]

I don’t want this to sound as though I am criticizing your post, or another providers business. But I do find the stamina argument a little interesting.

It’s just my personal belief that it is entirely the providers responsibility to maintain the flow of their booking, and if a clients stamina during the timeframe they have booked is becoming an issue, it should be the providers responsibility to control the flow of the session and either remind the client that they have only booked X amount of time.

Or adopt a policy, as many other providers have, that lets the client know X amount of time is reserved for showering, socializing, fucking, and then tidying up after the fun.
Typically, if a client is only booking a 30 minute session, those sessions are usually going to be 90% fucking… that timeframe does not realistically allow for anything else, especially if you want to socialize with the client. And those 30 minute bookings are usually only going to attract the type of client that wants to spend a generous amount of time having sex.
Just my personal opinion but i feel that a provider should be prepared for that type of session if they’re offering 30 min bookings. 30 mins straight of sex isn’t unreasonable imo. But with the time limitation of only booking 30 minutes, I get why it can be an issue.

I think it’s another discussion altogether if the issue isn’t necessarily with stamina, but rather with how hard they are going for those 30 minutes. But in those cases, I think it is still up to providers to enforce some boundaries and tell the client to slow it down a little and perhaps guide them into some more sensual sex and foreplay.

Zero critism taken. I always encourage questions, conversation and different points of view.
I do maintain the flow of my appointments and I will definitely give a "5 min warning" if the session is creeping up to the time available. I also offer alternative enthusiastic (and often creative lol) options for getting the deed done if reaching completion with sex doesn't seem like it's going to happen.
I commented vis-à-vis the person who asked for SP's experiences to get more perspective on the topic at hand and mine is that black men more than others tend to need more time at a more vigorous pace to finish.
Just throwing in my 2 cents as someone who doesn't restrict black men to "get to the bottom" (as said in another comment) of the complexity behind other SP's decisions to do so.

 

[sx4play]

I think the best way to determine the reasons why is to straight up ask those providers that put that in their ad. There are enough ads like that that one can expect some to answer. The responses here are at most hearsay and the actual SPs that are chiming in are not ones to include such in their ads.

 

[LisaLust24]

I think the best way to determine the reasons why is to straight up ask those providers that put that in their ad. There are enough ads like that that one can expect some to answer. The responses here are at most hearsay and the actual SPs that are chiming in are not ones to include such in their ads.

Well first off you mispronounced thank you lol.
Not sure you meant to be as dismissive as your post came across but I and the other SP's who have commented took our time to contribute to the thread as we have experience and insight into the psychiatry and possible reasoning given our own professional standpoint.
Second, I don't believe it IS entirely hearsay. I'm in the business and have given my reasons, just because I've chosen not to exclude black men doesnt mean the information I've given is less of a valid explination as to why I would have if that had been my decision. Third and finally, we could have an abundance of comments from SP's who have made that exclusion and I don't think there will ever be a specific or definitive answer. I'm sure the reason vary wildly and seeing as how none have commented, you may just have to be satisfied with the insight the professionals have been kind enough to offer.

 

[asuran]

However, I have generous clients who are Indian and Black.

Thank you!