Yes.
Just like I don't give a damn about what your opinion is.
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Just like I don't give a damn about what your opinion is.
You don't know why they say it, but try to keep an open mind its not always due to hate.
Some say it because they are red flags where they are known to scam you or rip you off. Yes this is a reality. Others actually have personal reasons that may be due to negative experiences. I don't think that is the case for the majority, but it holds weight for many. Some its regional. I recall 1 lady who says it when she travels to Hamilton, but not when shes hosting in Toronto. Some cases its the pimp because they say no black guys. Just keep an open mind that not all are for ill reasons.
Some say it because they are red flags where they are known to scam you or rip you off. Yes this is a reality. Others actually have personal reasons that may be due to negative experiences. I don't think that is the case for the majority, but it holds weight for many. Some its regional. I recall 1 lady who says it when she travels to Hamilton, but not when shes hosting in Toronto. Some cases its the pimp because they say no black guys. Just keep an open mind that not all are for ill reasons.
put them on your block and ignore lists. i have been doing that since august 2023
This subject's been done to death in other thread(s) and it always gets contentious for absolutely no good reason. Let's move on!
Many are Pimped and instructed to put that in.
Some are scam artist and that don't want to come across the wrong black guy.
And some providers have a preference for particular partners; just like clients do.
Move along now, nothing to see here.
A lot don't want to run into someone they know, someone close to their family...
Just like some of us don't see a lot of black SPs, to not run into the little sister of our buddies, or something like that!
It's funny to read so much comments assuming it's because themselves don't like black clients.
I personally feel a degree of SYNERGY with the OP. YES we all retain BODILY AUTONOMY, so there’s no argument whether it’s your right to screen based on race, and there are some legitimate reasons for racial/community screening as others have stated. But it’s NOT all RAINBOWS & LOLLIPOPS, there are far more tagging “no blacks” in particular than can be explained with a cultural exemption and let’s be honest and say it like it is, SOME providers use racist screening BECAUSE THEY’RE RACIST. Which is yes, their personal right, but is still a MORAL FAILURE IMHO.
Why? Well, on the provider side we are mainly SELECTIVE of clients for things like SAFETY, HYGENE, RESPECTFUL behaviour and meeting our financial requirements. You guys are paying for a service and have completely different selection criteria for those you are specifically and especially attracted to. There are perhaps some SWs that also screen for overarching physical attributes but I think that’s more in the nice to have column and really our criteria is on the TOLERANCE side. Think about it guys, we don’t even ask for photos so we’re looking at other criteria than you are.
I also feel the more experienced we are, the more we really don’t need a specific physical deck to build a connection, we move past superficial stuff to connect with the person and care about superficial aspects less and less. This is called personal growth and MATURITY.
For myself I see ALL RACES and screen based on defensible qualities like attitude. I don’t care what race, age (if legal), gender, religion, body type, ability nor height. I might care if you have a monster cock since I’m smaller but that’s about it! And it turns out gentlemen, professors, physicians, lawyers and even bad clients and gangsters come in all shades! And for the record the biggest dicks I couldn’t fit were Greek & Irish; chew on that a bit amongst the stereotypes. And the roughest are usually the smallies trying to overcompensate with other agressive behaviour just FYI. I personally find black men in particular are MORE careful to be respectful and gentle due to unfair stereotypes and racism. My black clients are often so “making love in the afternoon” vibes! Ultimately I feel a natural kinship with a person through their humour, kindness, playfulness and smarts.
So I actually understand and respect why saying “no blacks” without another clear reason comes off as RACIST and why that’s a TURN-OFF. Without a specific reason, It flags someone as narrow-minded and judgmental at best who will likely not be accepting of other physical attributes they may not like. I too find racism a personal turn-off, just as I find immature attitudes about body types and aging so pussy-desiccating. It just strikes me as mean, dumb or both which are super-unattractive qualities. And even though I have to tolerate it sometimes as the provider, I prefer to change to subject and focus on someone’s better self
Why? Well, on the provider side we are mainly SELECTIVE of clients for things like SAFETY, HYGENE, RESPECTFUL behaviour and meeting our financial requirements. You guys are paying for a service and have completely different selection criteria for those you are specifically and especially attracted to. There are perhaps some SWs that also screen for overarching physical attributes but I think that’s more in the nice to have column and really our criteria is on the TOLERANCE side. Think about it guys, we don’t even ask for photos so we’re looking at other criteria than you are.
I also feel the more experienced we are, the more we really don’t need a specific physical deck to build a connection, we move past superficial stuff to connect with the person and care about superficial aspects less and less. This is called personal growth and MATURITY.
For myself I see ALL RACES and screen based on defensible qualities like attitude. I don’t care what race, age (if legal), gender, religion, body type, ability nor height. I might care if you have a monster cock since I’m smaller but that’s about it! And it turns out gentlemen, professors, physicians, lawyers and even bad clients and gangsters come in all shades! And for the record the biggest dicks I couldn’t fit were Greek & Irish; chew on that a bit amongst the stereotypes. And the roughest are usually the smallies trying to overcompensate with other agressive behaviour just FYI. I personally find black men in particular are MORE careful to be respectful and gentle due to unfair stereotypes and racism. My black clients are often so “making love in the afternoon” vibes! Ultimately I feel a natural kinship with a person through their humour, kindness, playfulness and smarts.
So I actually understand and respect why saying “no blacks” without another clear reason comes off as RACIST and why that’s a TURN-OFF. Without a specific reason, It flags someone as narrow-minded and judgmental at best who will likely not be accepting of other physical attributes they may not like. I too find racism a personal turn-off, just as I find immature attitudes about body types and aging so pussy-desiccating. It just strikes me as mean, dumb or both which are super-unattractive qualities. And even though I have to tolerate it sometimes as the provider, I prefer to change to subject and focus on someone’s better self
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People, please understand these ads with "No Black Men" are a strong sign of being controlled by another person.
What if the SP is not at all attracted to a certain race? Are they not allowed to "not see" them?
What if I posted an ad looking for an SP and said "Only want to see white girls"
Is that not ok? Why not?
What if I posted an ad looking for an SP and said "Only want to see white girls"
Is that not ok? Why not?
That’s an interesting perspective based off industry stereotypes…
All the thugs on my BL have all been white, entitled and don’t want to screen.
It’s actually very interesting as well, when I do get booking requests from a BPOC client, they actually go above and beyond in my screening process because they know they’re facing the backlash of these stereotypes.
As mentioned earlier, I can completely understand a BPOC provider refusing to see a certain race/ethnic group that they belong to. Ottawa is an extremely small city especially for those who are part of these communities.
I have a completely different opinion on white providers refusing to see certain races/ethnic groups. Especially since white SPs have more privilege in this industry & they can usually do more screening. So if they’re screening each client (even if it’s light screening) they can determine just based by the individual if they want to see that person or not. There’s very little reason for them to be posting no AA or etc. in their ads, only ignorance, stereotypes and racism.
Here's the thing:
#1. Many SPs are asking for e-transfer deposits. That request is a line of protection as it reveals the persons identity before they even see you.
#2. Many independents perform screening measures, so you can verify the client well before you agree to anything.
#3. Most established women don't even say this. This is really only a LeoList thing.
So there are options to protect yourself without publicly saying "F* every black person out there". There's more to this.
But it's not about you. It's about the SP.
These are options and they provide a higher level of security that transcends race. The higher you go, the more screening is involved.
There is more to this.
Your opinion = Your perspective
The professionals don’t complain about bad clients with our current clients
we put them on a BL and warn other providers. I can’t imagine a worse way to turn off my client base than complaining about all the bad dates I’ve had. But I can guarantee you, bad clients come in all shapes, sizes and colours. And based on the demographics of the Ottawa clientele the majority are also going to be white.
So let’s give the stereotypes and thinly veiled racism a rest.
I think the only relevant point you’re making here is why it’s important all providers should do some level of screening.
Thank you for agreeing, bad clients can come from all races/ethnicities.
