Its so funny watching people wanting their politicians to be the most clean cut of the populace then complain when these same politicians impose their prudish moral views on them. Give me a Ford over a Harper any day. Because I am not clean and never will be.
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Amen to that!
What Ford bashers continue to ignore is the question: "Why do so many people support Ford even after all these issues have come to light?"
Answer: Because most normal people in this city were and are fed up of the entitlement at city hall.
Agree or disagree, it speaks volumes of the way people view council. So be it Ford, or someone like him, people want someone to shake things up and make these councilors look over their shoulders and not just settle into their cozy existence.
But Ford bashers are hell bent on only focusing on Ford himself and not the reason why he was voted in and continues to garner support. The more more people say he's a drug addict, he lies, he's an embarrassment, etc, etc...the more it makes a case as to how much people would rather have someone like him than someone who will just let these councilors get away with murder.
And that's what makes these elitist anti-Ford people very, very nervous.
Amen to that!
What Ford bashers continue to ignore is the question: "Why do so many people support Ford even after all these issues have come to light?"
Answer: Because most normal people in this city were and are fed up of the entitlement at city hall.
Agree or disagree, it speaks volumes of the way people view council. So be it Ford, or someone like him, people want someone to shake things up and make these councilors look over their shoulders and not just settle into their cozy existence.
But Ford bashers are hell bent on only focusing on Ford himself and not the reason why he was voted in and continues to garner support. The more people say he's a drug addict, he lies, he's an embarrassment, etc, etc...the more it makes a case as to how much people would rather have someone like him than someone who will just let these councilors get away with murder.
And that's what makes these elitist anti-Ford people very, very nervous.
Yeah, if that were only true.
Rob Ford has always been, and alway will be a hypocrite to the n'th degree. It's do as I say, not as I do. Although Ford a complete fuck-up himself, he is the most judgemental and arrogant fuck when it comes to other people's errors.
For example, Ford would never tolerate a city of Toronto manager having a drug and alcohol problem, he would call for the guy's head (and has basically said so).
For example, Toronto District School Board head - Chris Spence was guilty of plagiarism and Ford was calling for his head. The guy copied some Toronto Star Article for crying out loud.
For example again, Ford fired his former chief of Staff - Mark Towhey after Towhey refused to lie for Ford and told Ford to get some help.
For example, prior to the crack scandal, Mayor fuckhead demanded that a City of Toronto rec centre employee who was sleeping on the job be fired, along with his manager. So much for tolerance.
Tolerance? We've all seen how Tolerant Mayor McCheese is of homosexuals. For a guy like Ford to sit in judgement of ANYONE is pretty rich in my eyes.
Ford, like most Conservatives love telling other people how to live their lives.
If you look at Canadian History, any social reform in this country has always come from the work of liberals (Trudeau, Pearson, Chretien all immediately come to mind) not fuck-head conservatives like Rob Ford.
The province pulled away money that was supposed to be provided. If they had not done that then there would be no tax hike as he had promised. Regardless, Ford was stripped of powers and no less than 2 weeks later, council voted for an even higher hike than he was essentially forced to put forward.
To have councilors say on public record that they would not work with him is a fact. Not sure where you are getting that they were working with him.
So from day-1, you have a group of councilors declaring who they will and won't work with, then ultimately replacing him with a non-elected mayor. Mission accomplished.
Does that sound democratic to you? Or is that considered normal in commie-land?
The handling of the garbage strike sunk Miller and his successors. Instead of settling quickly, or toughing it out and breaking the union, he put the city through pain and then settled. Wtf is the response of many, and then ford came along and promised to privatize it. The rest was a circus sideshow.
Fascinating scenario:
Ford spends the minimum time in rehab and gets some clarity of mind plus a new vocabulary that includes pious phrases of respect for women and minorities. With no alcohol available, Ford starts shedding pounds, enough to look noticeably better when he makes his first public appearance. At which time he announces he's thrilled with progress and says he's voluntarily going back for another month or more.
Then Ford goes back on vacation, continues to abstain from alcohol and loses more weight. Hell, maybe he even starts working out. He calculates his "vacation time" to coordinate with whatever key days he needs to ensure he's still in the race for mayor, making an occasional "duty" return to council meetings just to ensure he's filling all requirements to qualify as incumbent.
Then he re-emerges from rehab in the final weeks leading up to the vote. He's a hundred pounds or so lighter, several months sober, and quite possibly shrewder thanks to a clear head. He might even qualify to be the first mayoral candidate to run a non-campaign while hiding in a rehab facility.
That's essentially the "miracle" dreamed by Ford Nation and it could very well become a reality.
Yes, his core supporters will be out in droves to vote for him.
But more importantly, Ford could dominate the media with the "Miracle Man" stories of recovery and redemption. Tons of affection and respect would pour in for him for every pound lost. Forgiveness will flow freely, the public will stop kicking a man when he's down, and they'll start celebrating someone who has been able to pull himself up by the bootstraps, to snatch respectability from the jaws of self-parody. Ford becomes more than just the common man's hero. He becomes an iconic symbol of determination and self-awareness and reinvention.
Even Hallmark couldn't come up with a better TV Movie of the Week.
So, without doubt, it's going to be very interesting to see what happens as Spring turns to Summer turns to Autumn, and an election which may lead to the Winter of our discontent.
Many here have already stated their belief a leopard can't change its spots. They think Ford will simply come back and revert to previous stupid behaviour. They very well may be right.
Others cite the police investigation of criminal activity swirling around Ford, and suggest that even if he returns as a Miracle Recovery Man, he still may have his political ambitions curtailed by further criminal charges before voters hit the polls.
That analysis, too, very well may be right.
Whatever the case, as long as Ford's name remains on the ballot, he has the potential of radically influencing the outcome of this year's election.
On the other hand, if Rob Ford takes his name off the ballot, he has the potential of radically influencing the outcome of this year's election.
Yeah, this is gonna get very interesting.
Picture this, for a moment if you will.
Ford spends the minimum time in rehab and gets some clarity of mind plus a new vocabulary that includes pious phrases of respect for women and minorities. With no alcohol available, Ford starts shedding pounds, enough to look noticeably better when he makes his first public appearance. At which time he announces he's thrilled with progress and says he's voluntarily going back for another month or more.
Then Ford goes back on vacation, continues to abstain from alcohol and loses more weight. Hell, maybe he even starts working out. He calculates his "vacation time" to coordinate with whatever key days he needs to ensure he's still in the race for mayor, making an occasional "duty" return to council meetings just to ensure he's filling all requirements to qualify as incumbent.
Then he re-emerges from rehab in the final weeks leading up to the vote. He's a hundred pounds or so lighter, several months sober, and quite possibly shrewder thanks to a clear head. He might even qualify to be the first mayoral candidate to run a non-campaign while hiding in a rehab facility.
That's essentially the "miracle" dreamed by Ford Nation and it could very well become a reality.
Yes, his core supporters will be out in droves to vote for him.
But more importantly, Ford could dominate the media with the "Miracle Man" stories of recovery and redemption. Tons of affection and respect would pour in for him for every pound lost. Forgiveness will flow freely, the public will stop kicking a man when he's down, and they'll start celebrating someone who has been able to pull himself up by the bootstraps, to snatch respectability from the jaws of self-parody. Ford becomes more than just the common man's hero. He becomes an iconic symbol of determination and self-awareness and reinvention.
Even Hallmark couldn't come up with a better TV Movie of the Week.
So, without doubt, it's going to be very interesting to see what happens as Spring turns to Summer turns to Autumn, and an election which may lead to the Winter of our discontent.
Many here have already stated their belief a leopard can't change its spots. They think Ford will simply come back and revert to previous stupid behaviour. They very well may be right.
Others cite the police investigation of criminal activity swirling around Ford, and suggest that even if he returns as a Miracle Recovery Man, he still may have his political ambitions curtailed by further criminal charges before voters hit the polls.
That analysis, too, very well may be right.
Whatever the case, as long as Ford's name remains on the ballot, he has the potential of radically influencing the outcome of this year's election.
On the other hand, if Rob Ford takes his name off the ballot, he has the potential of radically influencing the outcome of this year's election.
Yeah, this is gonna get very interesting.
Good points.
But why is everyone so transfixed on Ford's weight? Do we hate fat people that much? Do we all have some preconceived picture of what an "ideal politician" should look like?
I mean Dalton wasn't fat...did that make him more trustworthy?
You mean like privatizing garbage west of Yonge, and the Scarborough Subway?
You mean like Now magazine? Can you imagine if a magazine published a picture of a left-wing female Councillor's head on the body of a semi-nude overweight female?
Then there's Dalton... The one who left a long trail of broken promises in addition to doubling Ontario's debt in 10 years before quitting, taking his pension and riding off into the sunset. What a piece of work that guy was!
Privatizing garbage was not quite the panacea some think.
http://www.canlii.org/en/on/onscdc/doc/2014/2014onsc2728/2014onsc2728.html
Rules? We don't need to follow rules! We were appointed by Ford.
http://www.canlii.org/en/on/onscdc/doc/2014/2014onsc2728/2014onsc2728.html
Rules? We don't need to follow rules! We were appointed by Ford.
BTW anyone see the Globe this morning? Robyn Doolittle's article says that Ford didn't go to rehab in Chicago. :closed_2:
As someone who has dealt with "the Ministry of Labour" many times over the years, I can assure you that if for any reason they (the inspector) gets a hard-on for you, they will actively work to make your life complete and utter misery. I don't put much stock in them whatsoever.
As to privatizing garbage, the City of Toronto should not be in the garbage collection business period. Pretty much all Canadian Municipalities have contracted out garbage collection services.
Further, contracting out eliminates the possibility of garbage collection strikes and it is saving the City of Toronto 11.5 million dollars per year as promised. I can think of a lot better things to do with 11.5 million dollars than use it to collect garbage.
And the savings are proving to be as advertised. The average cost per home for District 2’s curbside collection used to be $166 per year. GFL is doing the job for around $129 per household, for a total annual savings of $11.5 million.
Linky:
http://www.torontolife.com/informer/columns/2014/03/20/philip-preville-toronto-garbage-collection/
Was I mistaken? Wasn't it Ford's motion to make bags 'free'? What did he do or say to in anyway keep the citizens of Ford Nation from littering the City with them? Selling them at 5¢ a pop certainly made a positive difference, but his brain-dead admirers preferred taxing every shopper to pay for their 'free' plastic bags over a clean city. How was it not Ford's doing to repeal that by-law, when his name was on the motion?
Garbage in the streets, or anywhere but the proper place is always the fault and responsibility of the oaf who left it there. During the strike, the City provided for and widely publicized effective alternatives for those too prissy to keep their own trash at home for a little longer than normal. No one said leave it on the street, but as always the City cleaned that up.
I suspect if we could use The WayBack Machine we'd find the sort of trashy people who left their refuse on the streets instead of where they should were also the largest proportion of those who couldn't manage the simple task of bringing their own bag to the store nor to keep the ones everyone else bought for them in a garbage bin and out of the landscape. And no one cleans those up. Just bits of gravy for Ford nation we all have paid for.
As for the two Mayors: We had one who went against logic and evidence and pushed a trivial personal preference not to pay even a nickel to a conclusion that has had widespread, obvious and deleterious results that were entirely predictable and continuing. His 'achievment' served no serious purpose and solved no problem instead it brought back and perpetuated one that had been solved.
We had one who was determined to end a costly and unproductive contract provision. Even if it pushed the union to strike, and temporarily inconvenienced the city, the cleanup could be swift and the benefit would be ongoing. Unfortunately, vocal portions of the populace wanted any settlement that made someone else deal with their trash, so the benefit was only partially removed, leaving it for the next Mayor to clean up the remaining bit. But Ford didn't.
Has Ford ever had a plan for cleaning up anything?
Looks like he either got blocked from the border or.....
Just tried to give the entire city and world the slip.
Did not cross the border at Detroit.
Chance of rehab : zero
You have to be some mook to believe anything the Ford brothers say. He's probably at some cottage or resort somewhere doing lines and getting smashed.
Just tried to give the entire city and world the slip.
Did not cross the border at Detroit.
Chance of rehab : zero
You have to be some mook to believe anything the Ford brothers say. He's probably at some cottage or resort somewhere doing lines and getting smashed.
So you're saying we should just let Ford get away with murder too?
If you want us to passively and silently endorse your brand of murderer, then you gotta bite your tongue about our choice as well. But they and we do outnumber your boy and his Nation by a long shot. Its why he's on the wrong side in so many Council votes and only got 47% in the election
As for why Ford won, as many including his supporters have said, there was no other choice on his side of the political spectrum, and the heavy-hitter on the other side collapsed. But he still couldn't get a majority.
Saddest of all are those who demean themselves and insult so many of their fellow citizens by claiming Ford is just an average guy like them. Which can only mean they're all rich, do-nothings sponging off daddy's money, lying and drugging their way through their lives in a stupor, and capable of doing right only under threat.
And then they say all that qualifies him to lead our City, a proven recipe for messy disaster. If picking the best guy, one who's the best qualified and proven trustworthy to do the best job makes you an elitist, then that's what we all should be.
There is no other choice in this coming election because none of the candidates have a track record. You have someone who's only claim to fame is being married to Jack Layton; a silver-spooned corporate ol'boy who is where he is because of his father; a milf soccer mom who really needs to pick a side rather than flip-flop; and some zombie-robot freak who no one even knows.
Most Ford supporters have learned to stay quiet. Because people like you are so quick to jump all over them. So instead, you don't hear from them. They don't want to go through all the bickering with people who never liked him anyway. Why bother? Instead, they just lay low, and let their votes speak for them.
But wait! If he gets elected again, won't the leftist-dominated council just replace him with a puppet mayor (like Kelly)? Apparently that's fine with people like you.
No one ever said he was going to rehab in Chicago. So maybe people assumed he was going there for rehab because he hopped on a plane. You think Ford would let anyone know where he's going knowing that the media would follow him just to get pictures of him in rehab?
Dude, your messiah is in fucking rehab right now... How much is his track record worth if the fucking limp dick loser can't keep sober long enough to do anything?
You know, by refusing to pull your support for an admitted drug abuser, YOU have become the enabler.. By refusing to pull your support for him until he gets better, you're telling him "Go ahead and drink yourself into an early grave, I don't care.. You're still fine by me because we believe in the same things politically.."
I sure hope you send his young daughter a sympathy card when her old man croaks from a heart attack at age 46... You can sign it "It's better having your Dad dead than somebody who disagrees with me politically in the mayor's chair."
Fatboy never even made it to Chicago, more smoke and mirrors.
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/rob-ford-reportedly-turned-back-entering-u-111625487.html
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/rob-ford-reportedly-turned-back-entering-u-111625487.html
LOL
He said he was going to Rehab and then he hopped on a plane to Chicago.. And now you think WE'RE the stupid ones for thinking he was going to rehab in Chicago?
And are you so stupid to believe that Rob Ford is the first celebrity to go to Rehab? Maybe the first politician (Why the fuck do you think they call it the "Betty Ford" centre)? And how many paparazzi photographs do we have of people who are in rehab? Rehab centres deal with this shit all the fucking time. They know how to let somebody rehabilitate in privacy and with their dignity. Rob Ford knows this because EVERYBODY knows this.
Your blind support for ANYTHING that allows you to keep cheering "Ford More Years" is really making you seem delusional.
Best case scenario, Rob Ford was making a short trip down to Chicago on business before heading off elsewhere to go Rehab and they wouldn't let Rob Ford in because of his criminal past and the fact that he's currently under criminal investigation.
Personally I don't buy it. He's been lying to us since day one. Why would he stop now.
