OPP ready to enforce boating rules

papasmerf

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i bet the guilty party in your boating death was driving a speed boat or a sea doo..........i have a sailboat and i'm not allowed a glass of wine? BULLSHIT.

As a BLOW BOATER you often see the need for enforcement of the RULES OF THE ROAD.

Here in the US we are allowed to have an open container on deck but level heads must prevail.

MOB is always a real risk when on the water and if you are hammered you will not be able to successfully execute a rescue.
Does your crew know what to do?

I recommend every boater partake in a MOB drill once per season.
Check your flares and first aid kit every season.

If you are a passenger you need to be aware the Captain knows the boat better then you do.

Don't forget your extinguishers either.
 

blackrock13

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They cared about the death not that it was boating related...I doubt those 1000 people became boat safety activists... Spending tons of money to save 36 lives is not really sensible.
How much more money are they spending? How much is a ton of money? Were you not one of those that thought a whole lot of money was spent on a funeral, which of course it wasn't? Their not spending any more money just targeting it where 'they' feel it's needed. You of course know better.
 

blackrock13

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As a BLOW BOATER you often see the need for enforcement of the RULES OF THE ROAD.

Here in the US we are allowed to have an open container on deck but level heads must prevail.

MOB is always a real risk when on the water and if you are hammered you will not be able to successfully execute a rescue.
Does your crew know what to do?

I recommend every boater partake in a MOB drill once per season.
Check your flares and first aid kit every season.

If you are a passenger you need to be aware the Captain knows the boat better then you do.

Don't forget your extinguishers either.
Somebody else whop actually knows what he's talking about.
 

Moraff

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Oh...and if they cannot supply the man power to police the ramps you somehow think they can effectively police the massive lake and all the bays? lol
Sure... Just as effectively as the land cops police the massive road system and properties......

Much like when the land cops do safety blitzes or patrol areas that they know trouble is likely to occur, the boat cops go where they know boaters tend to congregate.
 

blackrock13

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Sure... Just as effectively as the land cops police the massive road system and properties......

Much like when the land cops do safety blitzes or patrol areas that they know trouble is likely to occur, the boat cops go where they know boaters tend to congregate.
Bingo!
 

nottyboi

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Sure... Just as effectively as the land cops police the massive road system and properties......

Much like when the land cops do safety blitzes or patrol areas that they know trouble is likely to occur, the boat cops go where they know boaters tend to congregate.
Yeah and how often do any incidents happen there......?? They just go there to hand out tickets to people having a beer while at anchor... that is a real productive use of tax $.
 

papasmerf

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Yeah and how often do any incidents happen there......?? They just go there to hand out tickets to people having a beer while at anchor... that is a real productive use of tax $.
The USCG here in Buffalo and Lewiston respond to over a combined, 3000 call per year.


Maybe you need to check the facts and figures.
 

blackrock13

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Yeah and how often do any incidents happen there......?? They just go there to hand out tickets to people having a beer while at anchor... that is a real productive use of tax $.
Of course you this to be this case how? Apparently people are still not getting the lesson. you're not allowed to drink or drive and your not allowed to drink in your vehicle.

Of course this is okay.

http://www.thewhig.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?archive=true&e=1146176


Police pull over erratic driver

An erratic driver who prompted four motorists to call police had to be forced off Highway 401 near Belleville on Saturday afternoon.

Loyalist OPP Const. George Taylor caught up to a white Ford Windstar near Odessa. It was braking heavily, passing on the paved shoulder and cutting in and out of traffic, the OPP said in a release.

At one point, the van cut in front of a transport truck forcing the driver to lock the brakes to avoid a crash, the release said.

The officer had to force the van onto the shoulder to get it to stop.

Police say when asked about his driving, the man told the officer, "This is the way I drive in Europe."

Philip Gendy, 52, of Burlington, is set to appear in Napanee Provincial Court on Aug. 26.

Police seek help to find stolen boat

Napanee OPP hope the public can help them recover a fishing boat worth $19,000 stolen from a driveway in Napanee on the weekend.

The man, who lives on Country Road 8, told police his 1998 Crestliner Fish Hawk bass boat was probably stolen sometime overnight on Saturday.

The boat was on a silver Kara KKB galvanized trailer bearing Ontario licence V24276. The boat has a cream-coloured hull with a green cover, a grey 115-horsepower Johnson motor, and a Minn Kota electric trolling motor mounted on the front.

Police hope anyone with information will call Napanee OPP Const. Dorene Huebel or Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-8477.

Police charge 700 speeders

Eastern Region OPP dished out almost 700 speeding tickets over the holiday weekend.

A total of 693 drivers were charged with speeding, 19 were charged under Ontario's new get-tough racing legislation and 50 were charged with not wearing a seatbelt.

Drunk driving charges were filed against 18 people and 25 people received 12-hour suspensions for alcohol-related driving offences.

A total of 13 people were charged with marine offences and 12 people were charged under the ATV Off Road Vehicle Act.

Altogether, 1,000 charges were laid over in the region over the weekend.

Province-wide, the OPP laid 7,740 charges. Those included 5,643 speeding charges, 107 charges under the racing legislation, 399 seatbelt charges and 127 impaired driving charges.

Man faces charges for damage to car

Punching a parked car landed a man in hot water Sunday.

Kingston Police said a woman watched as a man punched her car parked on Clergy Street around 7:50 p. m., leaving a big dent in the rear quarter panel. It's believed about $250 damage was done.

Police arrived in minutes, found the man identified as the car puncher on Colborne Street, and arrested him. Police said they don't know why the man punched the car.

Christopher Edward Cabral, 32, of Kingston was charged with mischief under $5,000.

A 15-year-old Napanee teen faces criminal charges for taking a pickup truck without permission.

Loyalist OPP said they caught a group of youths rummaging through vehicles on Manitou Crescent in Napanee just before 5 p. m. last Thursday.

The youths told OPP Const. Steve Rodriguez they were searching vehicles for gas money.

Only one of the youths was charged, but charges may be filed against three others, a release from the OPP said.




This was for one weekend.
 

blackrock13

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The number was relayed ot me by a member of the USCG here.
Of NB only thinks the OPP hand out tickets. They never get involved in anything else that might save lives.

I guess I should have been more clear and said, 'facts, Nuttyboi'?
 

papasmerf

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Of NB only thinks the OPP hand out tickets. They never get involved in anything else that might save lives.

I guess I should have been more clear and said, 'facts, Nuttyboi'?

Sorry about that Bud

The problem most people have is they do not see boating as dangerous.

I remember years ago, telling an older gentleman who raced LIGHTNINGS, I was going to get an inflatable vest.

He told me to get the AUTO INFLATE. I asked him why.

His answers that if I am in the water I did not mean to end up there and am likely unconscious.
 

nottyboi

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Of course you this to be this case how? Apparently people are still not getting the lesson. you're not allowed to drink or drive and your not allowed to drink in your vehicle.

Of course this is okay.

http://www.thewhig.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?archive=true&e=1146176


Police pull over erratic driver

An erratic driver who prompted four motorists to call police had to be forced off Highway 401 near Belleville on Saturday afternoon.

Loyalist OPP Const. George Taylor caught up to a white Ford Windstar near Odessa. It was braking heavily, passing on the paved shoulder and cutting in and out of traffic, the OPP said in a release.

At one point, the van cut in front of a transport truck forcing the driver to lock the brakes to avoid a crash, the release said.

The officer had to force the van onto the shoulder to get it to stop.

Police say when asked about his driving, the man told the officer, "This is the way I drive in Europe."

Philip Gendy, 52, of Burlington, is set to appear in Napanee Provincial Court on Aug. 26.

Police seek help to find stolen boat

Napanee OPP hope the public can help them recover a fishing boat worth $19,000 stolen from a driveway in Napanee on the weekend.

The man, who lives on Country Road 8, told police his 1998 Crestliner Fish Hawk bass boat was probably stolen sometime overnight on Saturday.

The boat was on a silver Kara KKB galvanized trailer bearing Ontario licence V24276. The boat has a cream-coloured hull with a green cover, a grey 115-horsepower Johnson motor, and a Minn Kota electric trolling motor mounted on the front.

Police hope anyone with information will call Napanee OPP Const. Dorene Huebel or Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-8477.

Police charge 700 speeders

Eastern Region OPP dished out almost 700 speeding tickets over the holiday weekend.

A total of 693 drivers were charged with speeding, 19 were charged under Ontario's new get-tough racing legislation and 50 were charged with not wearing a seatbelt.

Drunk driving charges were filed against 18 people and 25 people received 12-hour suspensions for alcohol-related driving offences.

A total of 13 people were charged with marine offences and 12 people were charged under the ATV Off Road Vehicle Act.

Altogether, 1,000 charges were laid over in the region over the weekend.

Province-wide, the OPP laid 7,740 charges. Those included 5,643 speeding charges, 107 charges under the racing legislation, 399 seatbelt charges and 127 impaired driving charges.

Man faces charges for damage to car

Punching a parked car landed a man in hot water Sunday.

Kingston Police said a woman watched as a man punched her car parked on Clergy Street around 7:50 p. m., leaving a big dent in the rear quarter panel. It's believed about $250 damage was done.

Police arrived in minutes, found the man identified as the car puncher on Colborne Street, and arrested him. Police said they don't know why the man punched the car.

Christopher Edward Cabral, 32, of Kingston was charged with mischief under $5,000.

A 15-year-old Napanee teen faces criminal charges for taking a pickup truck without permission.

Loyalist OPP said they caught a group of youths rummaging through vehicles on Manitou Crescent in Napanee just before 5 p. m. last Thursday.

The youths told OPP Const. Steve Rodriguez they were searching vehicles for gas money.

Only one of the youths was charged, but charges may be filed against three others, a release from the OPP said.




This was for one weekend.
12 marine offences...like what? No sound signalling device? (air horn bled out after 10 years of no use) Logic like yours is IDENTICAL to the thought process that created the long gun registry. How many of those people even KNEW they were breaking some obscure law. Having a beer while on your boat is a perfectly normal thing to want to do... but because of our bizzare laws you cannot do it unless you have a seperate shitter on the boat.. how effin retarded is that? Of course I would not support drunken boating.. but what a dumb law. So people now drink hard liquor as it is much harder to spot and enforce...OPP stops you, just slide it over the side....
 

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Uhhhhh, you do know that the police are on the water for many reasons other than to enforce safety and drinking and driving laws. Rescuing families who have had mechanical problems, retrieving the bodies of drowning victims etc.

No of course you don't because your envy and values are not aligned with the broader public interest of society as a whole. If it doesn't affect YOU, then it is not important. NO doubt that your yap would be flapping about how bad the cops are if just ONE of the three people in your circle of friends and family were hurt in any situation that the police might have been able to protect them from.

Typical nottyboi.





Typical nottyboi.

At least in today's example, he let's it slip that he doesn't have experience nor knowledge on the issues he pontificated about, and is about to defend to the inevitable humiliating end.
I didn't say I do no boating.. I only get out a few times each summer. Yes I know they need to be out for rescue purposes.. I did not say there were to be no cops.. but a single Helo can cover a massive radius more cheaply and effectively then a dozen cops on 6 boats...Nice of you to drop by just to attack people with nothing to really add to the argument ...typical.
 

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I didn't say I do no boating.. I only get out a few times each summer. Yes I know they need to be out for rescue purposes.. I did not say there were to be no cops.. but a single Helo can cover a massive radius more cheaply and effectively then a dozen cops on 6 boats...Nice of you to drop by just to attack people with nothing to really add to the argument ...typical.

Just because 1 is less than 6 or 12 doesn't mean that it is more cost effective. I'm guessing you have no idea how much it costs to keep that helo in the air.....

If I'm wrong, please put up statistics thanks!
 

blackrock13

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A single helicopter is cheaper and more effective than 12 men in 6 boats?

Really?

Please go on and edumacate us all.

As for adding anything to the conversation, there is nothing to add for reasonable and knowledgeable people. I am just providing a counterpoint and refuting your ridiculously ignorant proclamations. The OPP, Toronto Police Marine Unit and local police marine units provide a very valuable and essential service to society.

Unlike you, I see they are there for more than there own personal interest in gettting a suntan and ogling bikini clad women.

Nothing more to say.
Nuttyboi's tunnels vision has gotten him in trouble again.

Helicopters are cheaper, right. The last time I got involved in the logistics of operating a helo, two years ago, it was approximately $400/hour not including the pilot. Having helos in the air doesn't put people on the spot for simple things like 'out of gas'. I guess a helo can lower gas cans down to the boat 'after' figuring out what the problem is. Now we consider mechanical trouble. How does a helo crew figure that one out and get help in good time.

A helo can only be expected to be airborne for a 1000 hr/yr of the 2000hr on duty/call.

Yes, a copter can see alot of water from 500 feet up (1.7 x the sq.rt of 500 ft ~45 miles theroretically) but effectively it's 1/3 of that as seeing something, recognizing a problem, knowing what's going on is totally different and an officer still has to get to the perceived problem and deal with it.

Both the boat and chopper can respond at the same speed, approx 75 kph, depending on the model..
 

blackrock13

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12 marine offences...like what? No sound signalling device? (air horn bled out after 10 years of no use) Logic like yours is IDENTICAL to the thought process that created the long gun registry. How many of those people even KNEW they were breaking some obscure law. Having a beer while on your boat is a perfectly normal thing to want to do... but because of our bizzare laws you cannot do it unless you have a seperate shitter on the boat.. how effin retarded is that? Of course I would not support drunken boating.. but what a dumb law. So people now drink hard liquor as it is much harder to spot and enforce...OPP stops you, just slide it over the side....
Another example how idiotic NB is, Yes, air horns bleed out, but only an idiot doesn't check it every spring when they first put the boat in the water, just like you check throw ropes, gas tanks , gas lines, flash/spot lights and bailers. Keep digging Phil.
 
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I've been boating on Georgian Bay for over 30 years, and I've seen police boats maybe twice ever.
A similar situation to where I frequently sail. However both there and Georgian Bay have a heck of a lot less people on the water than the Kingston - Thousand Islands area or the Bay of Quinte, further, people in your area (and where I frequently am) typically start on the water young and have a good bit more experience than many Lake Ontario weekend sailors, and with that a lot of very healthy respect for the water and the knowedge that failure to act prudently may well result in never coming back period.
 

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The OPP have several vessels on the Bay of Quinte and eastern Lake Ontario, ready to enforce boating rules as the pike and pickerel season opens.

Officers from the Prince Edward and Napanee detachments will be looking for boaters who bring alcohol out on the water.

They'll also be checking to ensure that everyone on board has a life jacket, and that all boats have flashlights and sound signalling devices.

The pike and pickerel season opens on the bay and the eastern part of Lake Ontario next Saturday.

http://www.cp24.com/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110507/110507_opp_boat/20110507/?hub=CP24Home
Don't forget flares, heaving line, reboarding device and that would be a water tight flashlight.

Here's the link to the regulatiosn
http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/marinesafety/debs-obs-equipment-size-menu-690.htm
 
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