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As a provider whom actually loves her profession and has credibility I prefer the payment first... It makes me feel bit more comfortable that I don't feel like i'm going to get scammed and I perform better when I'm more comfortable! I've had a regular whom would always put the envelope with the payment on my dresser and I checked at the end of my session once and it was empty!
I know there can be a distrust between provider & client from both sides but feel the situation out, try and read them and use your gut
I know there can be a distrust between provider & client from both sides but feel the situation out, try and read them and use your gut
It's a very sharp, double-edged sword.
For women (SPs), paying up-front assures them that the gentleman can be trusted to pay for services that are forthcoming. Paying at the end is a high risk that they just serviced a client for free if he walks out or leaves an empty envelope.
For men, paying up front has the high risk of being scammed. (Pimps next door, lame excuses from the provider, mechanical service, etc). Paying at the end means you are satisfied with the service you both agreed upon, seeing as a provider will "work for her money".
As with any service or purchase of goods, the best policy is "buyer beware". Do your research on the lady that interests you and ask questions. I personally have been fooled twice and was out $800. But through those painful, expensive lessons, I learned a lot from the veterans of this site, and I'm less inclined now to listen to "the little guy".
For women (SPs), paying up-front assures them that the gentleman can be trusted to pay for services that are forthcoming. Paying at the end is a high risk that they just serviced a client for free if he walks out or leaves an empty envelope.
For men, paying up front has the high risk of being scammed. (Pimps next door, lame excuses from the provider, mechanical service, etc). Paying at the end means you are satisfied with the service you both agreed upon, seeing as a provider will "work for her money".
As with any service or purchase of goods, the best policy is "buyer beware". Do your research on the lady that interests you and ask questions. I personally have been fooled twice and was out $800. But through those painful, expensive lessons, I learned a lot from the veterans of this site, and I'm less inclined now to listen to "the little guy".
For this very reason I put the funds on the table within the first 30 seconds and fan out the bills for easy view. Many SPs do not touch the funds until the service is over and I don't want them to be second guessing how much is actually there. If there are a lot of small bills (my lunch money...lol) I actually insist that the SP count before we begin.
As for that regular who scammed you he is a friggin' low life, unbelievable and very sad.
As for that regular who scammed you he is a friggin' low life, unbelievable and very sad.
As a provider whom actually loves her profession and has credibility I prefer the payment first... It makes me feel bit more comfortable that I don't feel like i'm going to get scammed and I perform better when I'm more comfortable! I've had a regular whom would always put the envelope with the payment on my dresser and I checked at the end of my session once and it was empty!
I know there can be a distrust between provider & client from both sides but feel the situation out, try and read them and use your gut
All SPs I have visited have been perfectly fine with it. Most will still count the money though, especially if it's your first visit.
I never take it personally whether they do or don't. I always triple check that the correct amount is in the envelope before handing it over anyways.
I never take it personally whether they do or don't. I always triple check that the correct amount is in the envelope before handing it over anyways.
If she is well reviewed then pay first. It's only fair because you know about her service but she knows nothing about you. If she's not well reviewed then book the least amount of time. Also if she's a scammer then she will ask for payment as soon as you get in the door. At which point you use your gut feeling to pay up or leave.
I usually pay before before I head to the shower so she has time to check the amount and it puts her mind at ease. Ladies appreciate that and it makes for a good session.
Tipping should be done after. Just my 2 cents.
I usually pay before before I head to the shower so she has time to check the amount and it puts her mind at ease. Ladies appreciate that and it makes for a good session.
Tipping should be done after. Just my 2 cents.
Fair enough. The first SP I saw, I paid upfront...didn’t really think too much about it. Then I read somewhere saying that you should never pay upfront (because of scams) which had me wondering as I assumed the common practice was to pay upfront. I’m guessing research is key in determining the course of action.
I don't use an envelope anymore, I use as big of bills as possible. Some reputable SPs have a jar where they prefer the money be placed and I'm sure some peek while I go wash my hands and use mouthwash but I don't even think of that anymore. Like TBR stated, if the odd time I use five twenties to make one hundred and place it on a shelf or table I'll fan it our a bit. My regulars don't even check before funtime anymore as I usually round up or leave an extra 20-40 since they don't clock watch with me and more often than not they ask me to stay for another glass of wine so it's not really a tip, it's all-encompassing to me.
I very rarely pay up front. I find that most real SP's don't really need that. I have seen one that wanted money upfront at a place where I have seen several, but I thought, okay, just for her piece of mind.
At my third visit, she still insisted and so I never saw her again.
The comfort level works both ways.
For me, if they need the money upfront, it feels like a transaction or the typical scammer depending upon who I am seeing (reputable or TOFFT).
It is everyone's choice, but I go by the adage of buyer beware.
It's not for everyone, but it has worked very well for me...ie. I NEVER get scammed.
And putting it in an envelope is just total bullshit! Where the F&^(^ did that ever come from? Oh, yes, the supposedly "reputable" SP's that need that in an envelope to keep it real! Too funny. How do they even know what's in there, and, if they need to check the contents, then what is the point of the envelope? Oh right, then they feel like they're not an SP but a ????
At my third visit, she still insisted and so I never saw her again.
The comfort level works both ways.
For me, if they need the money upfront, it feels like a transaction or the typical scammer depending upon who I am seeing (reputable or TOFFT).
It is everyone's choice, but I go by the adage of buyer beware.
It's not for everyone, but it has worked very well for me...ie. I NEVER get scammed.
And putting it in an envelope is just total bullshit! Where the F&^(^ did that ever come from? Oh, yes, the supposedly "reputable" SP's that need that in an envelope to keep it real! Too funny. How do they even know what's in there, and, if they need to check the contents, then what is the point of the envelope? Oh right, then they feel like they're not an SP but a ????
This works for me.
I have a dish by the door that regulars just drop the donation in.
No offense but, it is literally a transaction/purchase of services so if you're uncomfortable treating it as such maybe you should try tinder...
when you have a plumber come do some work for you or and electrician do you pay them up front??
A plumber or electrician is not giving you access to their body and they have legal mechanisms by which they can go after you if you scam them. When you go see a therapist (which is the industry I'd compare SW most to) you do pay up front
But you miss the entire point that all of the best that I have seen do not ask for money upfront. Only those that insist on it, insist that there is something wrong with us because we do not expect it or do it.
There was a recent, and there are always, scammer out there that totally ripped off an experienced member. We all take chances, but to minimize those chances from our perspective, we DO NOT pay upfront.
If you have a different approach, that is fine, but don't call everyone down because it doesn't meet with YOUR expectations. Shit, what's happened to the world. To each their own and it's really none of your fucking business how we and other SP's conduct theirs!
A wee bit offended are we? I actually dont require payment upfront, I just prefer it in order to feel comfortable and to ensure things run smoothly on my end. I have no problem with other providers running their business differently, I just know that many of us get nervous when we dont get payment at the beginning. The only thing that rubbed me the wrong way about your comment is that you claimed you didnt want things to feel like a transaction, which I found ironic given that you're paying for someone's services have a nice day!
have a nice day!