I believe it was W5 that had a show recently on pedofiles. They said pedofilia is a sexual preference just as heterosexuals and homosexuals. Of course the big difference being pedofiles sexual partners are not consenting, they are being raped. So what do we do with them? So if this is true they are not mentally ill so they wouldn't go to the Nut Farm and they are not in control of their actions so if it were an other crime they would not be found guilty....... so what is the remidy?
Pedofilia.....
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Sorry, have to disagree with you here. They are just going to deal with controlling their urges, just as everybody else.
Sorry, have to disagree with you here. They are just going to deal with controlling their urges, just as everybody else.
Well true I'm hetero and have managed to not to rape a ladiy so far.... so what if rape was a sexual preference you were born with what would the law say about that?CosaNostra said:
I'm not saying I disagree with you but that is not legal, I'm thinking of a real answerLord_Phan said:
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I believe that it is a preference that they have no control of. But does that not absolve them of having sex with children, consensual or not. It's unfortunate that people have this condition, and I feel lucky that I wasn't one of them. But it easily could have been anyone here that was in their shoes. Luck of the genetic draw.
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I think it's a preference that's acquired over time and circumstances, they are sexually immature predators that were usually victims of paedophilia themselves. It's a difficult cycle to break. Our society doesn't help when we sexualize everything around us, we're overwhelmed with the idea of seeking physical pleasure. Children are being sexualized too early as well, it's too bad there isn't an escape for them.
Yet if we crack down on this, it becomes a taboo that is more desirable for some. There isn't a simple solution without loosing a lot of freedoms.
Yet if we crack down on this, it becomes a taboo that is more desirable for some. There isn't a simple solution without loosing a lot of freedoms.
It was a big mistake to get away from the concept of penal colonies.
People who have the condition need to be removed from the general population completely and permanently. But imprisonment is misguided in the case of those individuals where this is truly their only orientation. And it only postpones their inevitable return to society where it is only a matter of time before most of them re-offend.
In Canada we have both the technological means and the land to create sealed and segregated comunities where these people can live amongst their own kind and have zero access to minors for the rest of their natural lives.
This would be extremely expensive, especially all the layers of security and screening which would be needed to ensure that such a facility was trully cut off from the world. But in the long run, I think it makes society much safer since once a person was conclusively diagnosed, they would removed FORVER.
It's also a more humane way to deal with people who can't help being born with warped minds and chemistry. Some exiles would find ways to be more productive than they would be in jail, although suicide rates would probably be higher than average.
People who have the condition need to be removed from the general population completely and permanently. But imprisonment is misguided in the case of those individuals where this is truly their only orientation. And it only postpones their inevitable return to society where it is only a matter of time before most of them re-offend.
In Canada we have both the technological means and the land to create sealed and segregated comunities where these people can live amongst their own kind and have zero access to minors for the rest of their natural lives.
This would be extremely expensive, especially all the layers of security and screening which would be needed to ensure that such a facility was trully cut off from the world. But in the long run, I think it makes society much safer since once a person was conclusively diagnosed, they would removed FORVER.
It's also a more humane way to deal with people who can't help being born with warped minds and chemistry. Some exiles would find ways to be more productive than they would be in jail, although suicide rates would probably be higher than average.
That's only if you use the term "pedophelia" in a broad sense to describe anyone who abuses children. I don't think that's acurate.Svend said:
There are people who've abused children for other reasons: to gain dominance, as an act of hatred or hostility, or just out of opportunism. These people are not necessarily pedophiles - they are just very brutal rapists with even less conscience. They made a cynical choice and deserve the harshest punishment imaginable.
True pedophiles would be those who simply CAN'T be aroused by anything other than children who are not yet sexually functional. I don't believe these peopel are intentionally evil, but since their deviance has devastating consequences on defencless victims, they do need to be completely quarenteened.
I wouldn't have a problem with a permanant quarantine or exile since there isn't a cure.
The costs would worth having our kids safer, plus the predators would protected from outside influences and live more normal lives. A farm on Ellesmere Island would be a good idea.
It won't happen though, I doubt Amnesty International or other rights groups would agree with the idea.
The costs would worth having our kids safer, plus the predators would protected from outside influences and live more normal lives. A farm on Ellesmere Island would be a good idea.
It won't happen though, I doubt Amnesty International or other rights groups would agree with the idea.
Svend said:I wouldn't have a problem with a permanant quarantine or exile since there isn't a cure.
The costs would worth having our kids safer, plus the predators would protected from outside influences and live more normal lives. A farm on Ellesmere Island would be a good idea.
It won't happen though, I doubt Amnesty International or other rights groups would agree with the idea.
We can put them in the same place way up north that bogus refugee claimants can live in, and if AI doesn't like it, put them there as well.
Am I the only one that is sick of seeing so many posts brought up about this stuff? I am totally against people that harm children. Granted everytime it happens or a child goes missing or is re-united with family I do go read about it hoping that a child is ok or wait to hear the outcome of the monster that did it. I just wish that like the majority the monsters get put away for life or get severly abused for the crimes they commit.
I mean is there no better way to get what the majority of the people want rather than sitting back and posting about it? ie... toughen up the laws on first time offenders or death or life time sentence with no chance of parole on second time offenders. We are the people isn't in our hands some how to have the laws listen to what the people want?
I mean is there no better way to get what the majority of the people want rather than sitting back and posting about it? ie... toughen up the laws on first time offenders or death or life time sentence with no chance of parole on second time offenders. We are the people isn't in our hands some how to have the laws listen to what the people want?
^^^ same here. These behaviours/topics don't deserve a discussion. It's wrong. Doesn't take a fucking moron to get that. Leave the kids out of this fucking board. end of discussionstacey4u2luv said:
p.s: I'm starting to wonder about the motives of some of you in here. Don't you all have anything better to do than think about pedofilia
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Glad to see I am not alone in thinking this way. Maybe it should not be allowed on the board unless it is news related or maybe a forum for local news events could be added where ALL news could be discussed.
Now back to the weather.
worth repeating .........
I also feel a great deal of concern over the increasing apathy that is
becoming a part of society towards sexual abuse of children. It has always
amazed me that there is so little public outrage at the horrendous abuses
suffered by children. Repeatedly, I have seen marches, protests, rallies,
blockades, etc. by well meaning people to save animals, the land and the
environment. However, the lack of publicity, public outcry and protests when
it comes to the abuse of a child clearly demonstrates a continued "silence"
until it becomes a personal issue. I continually hear the protesters that are
out to save such things as animals, parks and the environment, state that
they are saving all of these things for our children BUT unfortunately no one
is saving the children. If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem!
I also feel a great deal of concern over the increasing apathy that is
becoming a part of society towards sexual abuse of children. It has always
amazed me that there is so little public outrage at the horrendous abuses
suffered by children. Repeatedly, I have seen marches, protests, rallies,
blockades, etc. by well meaning people to save animals, the land and the
environment. However, the lack of publicity, public outcry and protests when
it comes to the abuse of a child clearly demonstrates a continued "silence"
until it becomes a personal issue. I continually hear the protesters that are
out to save such things as animals, parks and the environment, state that
they are saving all of these things for our children BUT unfortunately no one
is saving the children. If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem!
So what about in cases where it is consenting and not rape?big dogie said:
What to do with groups like NAMBLA?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAMBLA
Legally, a child cannot consent either way, so by default, it is rape. A child being someone below the age of consent in whatever jurisdiction you're in.Don said:
Where it becomes sticky is that a child's rights lies with its parents or legal guardian. If there's some sicko parent that consents, there might be an arguable case. But even then, due to the outrage, the government will FIND something to charge the parents with.
