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Poll: Who gets your vote

If a federal election were held tomorrow who would get your vote

  • Pierre Pollievre's Conservative Party

    Votes: 41 67.2%
  • Justin Trudeau's Liberal Party

    Votes: 13 21.3%
  • Jagmeet Singh's New Democratic Party

    Votes: 5 8.2%
  • Elizabeth May's Green Party

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Maxime Bernier's People's Party

    Votes: 2 3.3%

  • Total voters
    61
  • Poll closed .

Skoob

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Frankfooter

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Is asking for mathematical proof somehow wrong?

What "stuff I agree with" are you referring to exactly and what is your point?
Yes, because you use it to shut down debate on issues you disagree with.
'prove how every dollar from a carbon tax fixes climate change' type bullshit when you disagree but then you won't do basic math for things you do back.
 

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Skoob

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Yes, because you use it to shut down debate on issues you disagree with.
'prove how every dollar from a carbon tax fixes climate change' type bullshit when you disagree but then you won't do basic math for things you do back.
Asking a question is not shutting down a debate.
Running away from a question and calling people names because you can't or won't answer the question is shutting down a debate.
 

Skoob

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The only numbers in that document are page numbers and section headings. It is
Affirmations and wishful thinking. There is no meat in there for meaningful discussion.
It's more than enough to know what they stand for. Not sure how much clearer they can be on the carbon tax for example. Why would you expect detailed policies to be released so far in advance of an election? No party does that not even the NDP or Greens.

Are you giving the Libs a pass for 10 years of reckless inflationary spending and a long list of boondoggles that have created a mess in this country just because you haven't seen finalized policies by other parties?
Good luck with that.
 

Skoob

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So let them release specific measures first and then we can decide whether PP is right. No?
That's what political parties usually do closer to elections. Most of the time, the "specific measures" you are talking about are some kind of promises or goals that are announced as part of the election campaign.
Any party can promise anything. Doesn't mean it will be done or not. So basing your selection on promises is not a complete strategy.
Better to judge the current party's performance and then determine if a change is required. If yes, then you would go with which party aligns with your ideals based on the promises and goals they have announced.
 

HungSowel

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Why would you expect detailed policies to be released so far in advance of an election? No party does that not even the NDP or Greens.
I did not expect detailed policy at this time which is why I said in post #128 about waiting for more details of PP's policy.

You replied to post 128 which lead you to post the CPC book of affirmations, when I pointed out it was fluff you then blame me for expecting detailed policy at this time.
 
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Skoob

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I did not expect detailed policy at this time which is why I said in post #128 about waiting for more details of PP's policy.

You replied to post 128 which lead you to post the CPC book of affirmations, when I pointed out it was fluff you then blame me for expecting detailed policy at this time.
Is it really that difficult to discern what their published policies will most likely translate into as far as final bills, direction, etc?
Is it not better to assume that the current government's track record is one that requires them to be booted from office? If the answer is yes, then it's really a choice of which party's ideologies you align with.
Any party can lay out policies, promises and goals in advance of an election...it's what they actually do once elected that is the real measure.
 

Frankfooter

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Is it really that difficult to discern what their published policies will most likely translate into as far as final bills, direction, etc?
Is it not better to assume that the current government's track record is one that requires them to be booted from office? If the answer is yes, then it's really a choice of which party's ideologies you align with.
Any party can lay out policies, promises and goals in advance of an election...it's what they actually do once elected that is the real measure.
Yes, they posted impossible fluff.
Cut taxes, spend more and no deficits ever again.

Only an idiot thinks that can happen and wouldn't ask to see how they think its going to happen.
 
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Skoob

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Yes, they posted impossible fluff.
Cut taxes, spend more and no deficits ever again.

Only an idiot thinks that can happen and wouldn't ask to see how they think its going to happen.
You mean like how the budget will balance itself? Or "stretch goals"?
 

Skoob

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Then you are saying, "I will do the opposite of what Trudeau did" is a convincing argument. I dont think so. That is why I ask for specificity.
You won't get anything specific and super detailed from anyone. You can only judge the track record of the current government and then based on high level details, you make a decision as to replacing them or not.

No one will give you a detailed plan until they are in office and actually pass it through legislation, etc. You will only get promises and goals before then.

So if you're waiting for a detailed plan to make you decision, that is the wrong approach.
 

Skoob

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Well it does not have to be legislation level detail but it certainly has to be more than just rhetoric. What PP has right now, is rhetoric that sounds good to people who are dissatisfied, but there is no indication of what his actual policies would look like.
So vote for him and see...what can I tell you?
Unless you're very satisfied with the current government then keep them in power.
It's not difficult really.
 

Skoob

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Nah, its the NDP's turn now.
Ha! That's a good one!
btw they had their turn (in Ontario). Ever wonder why they never had another turn?
That's how bad they were.

btw must be a pain for you being forced to support and defend Trudeau all these years, when you're really an NDPer. How have you coped? Serious question.
 

K Douglas

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are you really that slow

the whole thread is about voting for the federal party

PC got 41 votes

Libs got 13 :ROFLMAO:

that is more than 3 to 1

and you voted for NDP which got only 5 votes :ROFLMAO:

that's 8.2% of votes

that's like less than 10 %

so if there were 10 guys NDP wouldn't even be 1 guy

it would be like a really small guy :ROFLMAO:
You do realize that lefties are averse to math and statistics. Some of them think its racist.
 
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K Douglas

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Based on that criteria why not vote for NDP or the Green Party?
Because they would follow the same path of the Liberals but on a worse scale. Their policies would turn Canada into Venezuela.
 

Skoob

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You do realize that lefties are averse to math and statistics. Some of them think its racist.
That's why I identify as Math/Statistics so they respect me more.
 
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