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angrymime666

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that depends on the strain/genetics(thc content, cbd), your tolerance and the effect it has on you.

for myself when I was in amsterdam 1 gram would make 2 joints of premium genetics and greenhouse grown mj. it was fantastic. I would smoke those 2 joints in about an hour.
 

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Question: Are pot shops allowed to sell other staples like milk, bread, eggs, beer, etc.?
They're not even allowed to sell cannabis! This is the big problem; there is a disconnect between what is happening (and what the dispensaries claim is "a gray area"), the current laws, enforcement, and whatever the Liberals are working on for legalization.
The only entities authorized to sell are the growers who are licensed through Health Canada to sell to people with prescriptions.
 

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It never made any sense to me to light something on fire and deliberately draw the smoke into your lungs.

The only thing I want in my lungs is fresh air thanks.
 

MattRoxx

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http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/bl...-would-be-a-good-time-for-that-pot-law-ottawa

Another interesting editorial on the subject from today's NP suggesting that the sooner the law is in place the better to bring some order to the chaotic free for all in the unregulated grey zone that the pot shops are now operating.
Exactly. All the Liberals have to do is remove cannabis from the Controlled Substances Act and it would be a legal product. Then they could dick around with the legislation for commercial production and sales.

From April:
Health Minister Jane Philpott made the announcement during a special session of the United Nations General Assembly in New York regarding drug use and drug-related crime.

“We will introduce legislation in spring 2017 that ensures we keep marijuana out of the hands of children and profits out of the hands of criminals,” Philpott said. “While this plan challenges the status quo in many countries, we are convinced it is the best way to protect our youth while enhancing public safety.”
This was such a bizarre and vague statement, because of the questions it left for people now. And no one knows what "this plan" is or what the timeline is for (another round of) public input, Health Canada regulations for sellers, fed/prov/municipal responsibilities, etc.
The current dispensaries might be legal next year or might not, and Ottawa is deliberately avoiding giving out guidance on what is to come.
 

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well there's also vaping and edibles. but whatever, think inside the box.
Our lungs were designed to absorb O2,...nothing else.


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whitewaterguy

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naturopaths can't write 'prescriptions'. not even doctors can write 'prescriptions' because the government doesn't want to admit weed is medicine like other drugs under the FDA.

doctors can write you a 'medical document' under the current regulations health canada put out that you can then take to a licensed producer and get pot mailed to you, or you can bring that to any dispensary and buy weed from storefronts. most dispensaries recognize how difficult it is to get these documents so they will take recommendations from naturopaths or they will just take a 'confirmation of diagnosis' from a doctor confirming you have whatever condition you have without actually recommending that you take marijuana to treat it. it's a midway point for doctors, and provides some level of liability protection for dispensaries.

although a lot of more irresponsible dispensaries popping up these days will basically sell to anyone now because they're not really in the game for the longevity - they're just taking advantage of an unregulated market for the time being to make big bucks and then dip when the regulations make it too hard and cost prohibitive for them to keep operating.
. I sort of jokingly raised the topic of a pot prescription with my family doctor during one visit. Her comment was "trust me, you wouldn't want to have ANY of the illnesses which qualify under the governments eligibility guidelines for a prescription"
 

MattRoxx

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. I sort of jokingly raised the topic of a pot prescription with my family doctor during one visit. Her comment was "trust me, you wouldn't want to have ANY of the illnesses which qualify under the governments eligibility guidelines for a prescription"
Your family doctor would send you to a specialist clinic for the prescription. Conditions include chronic pain and arthritis, which are common.
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i doubt the police will bother. if they lay charges now, by the time the charges get to trial, weed will probably already be legalized and the accused will be entitled to take advantage of the new laws.
I hope you're right. But if enough people complain they might have to take action.
 

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Question: Are pot shops allowed to sell other staples like milk, bread, eggs, beer, etc.?

Question: Do you need a license to sell milk, bread, eggs?

Question: Do you know of any retail store in Ontario other than the Beer Store, LCBO or the select pilot grocery stores that are allowed to sell beer?

Question: Why do you post such stupid questions when you are clearly not that stupid to not know the answer already?
 
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SkyRider

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They're not even allowed to sell cannabis! This is the big problem; there is a disconnect between what is happening (and what the dispensaries claim is "a gray area"), the current laws, enforcement, and whatever the Liberals are working on for legalization.
The only entities authorized to sell are the growers who are licensed through Health Canada to sell to people with prescriptions.
Let say in the near future when selling pot is legal, what is there to stop a pot shop from selling milk or bread like Wal-Mart and Shoppers are currently doing? Heck, Shoppers might also be a pot seller when it is legal.
 

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Let say in the near future when selling pot is legal, what is there to stop a pot shop from selling milk or bread like Wal-Mart and Shoppers are currently doing? Heck, Shoppers might also be a pot seller when it is legal.


OMG, I think you are on to something there Skyrider!

Perhaps you are hoping for a lawyer to give a more considered opinion but, as a layman I suspect that these Pot Shops may very well take advantage of a loophole in the Criminal Code and indeed move onto trafficking in bread and milk! :Eek:

Not to confuse matters more but a cousin of a brother-in-law of a guy I know said that some bread and milk dealers also sell coke.
 

SchlongConery

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Let say in the near future when selling pot is legal, what is there to stop a pot shop from selling milk or bread like Wal-Mart and Shoppers are currently doing? Heck, Shoppers might also be a pot seller when it is legal.
FUCK Skyrider... you are onto something again!!!!!

Brilliant insight... who would ever even think that Shoppers DRUG Mart would ever sell legal drugs?
 
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MattRoxx

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Okay let's say I spend 10-15.
How many times can I smoke for those 10-15 $ ?
1 gram could make 1 big 'party sized' joint for sharing or 2-3 average sized. Vaping is a little more efficient. It also depends how you want to feel. For me, 4 grams would be enough for a couple of weeks. Someone who is using cannabis for chronic pain relief or a more serious ailment would smoke more often.
 

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i doubt the police will bother. if they lay charges now, by the time the charges get to trial, weed will probably already be legalized and the accused will be entitled to take advantage of the new laws.
Our mayor has started to weigh in on this. I'm pessimistic, because when people have authority or power, they are likely to use it. And a dispensary could be responsibly and quietly servicing hundreds of customers, but all it takes for action is 1 complaint.

 

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Trudeau's promise to legalize marijuana was made when he thought he had no hope of becoming PM. It would have been more logical to first decriminalize and then legalize. Now Toronto has a free for all, LE finds themselves hamstrung, there are both municipal and provincial government headaches and cannabis is still officially illegal. The genie is out of the bottle on this one. We cannot buy alcohol even at the local convenience store, yet can purchase weed now. It will be hard to put restrictions onto to whom can sell weed now. Do the pot shops give a receipt, is there GST on the product even? The situation is a joke, the pot shop boys will they survive or will the government step in and limit sales through other outlets which might make a legal challenge if the pot shops are allowed to flourish for the next twelve months and them suddenly find themselves legislated out of business in 2016? Had marijuana been legalized decades ago it would have been smoothly integrated into society, similar to alcohol, but legalizing it introduces so many legal obstacles and inconvenient truths. Can the system take the shock of sudden legalization?
 
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