Sad how girls that are horizontilly or vertically challenged seem to post into these threads.(sorry dont know which is which). Girls should look good if it means starving them selves then hey they are probably over weight and it can not hurt them that much. Hey all that fat will be taken first.
Quantifying Attractiveness in Women
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Samantha Jones
OK before I head down to the beach oday....
I admit I am geneticly unusual- my trainers say so but please dont lump women together!I work out almost daily BECAUSE if I don't my muscles get sore like most people's do if you don't exercise!
I am far from anorexic- and i have spent many years working with anorexics as a psych nurse- but my body fat - naturally- I never diet to lose weight- runs between 12.9-15%. When i had a retail store and had absolutely no time at all for exercise for 5 years it went up to 24%. In 6 weeks of wieght training 3x/week and NO diet it was down to 15%.
Point being some people just genetically tend to have more muscle mass.(and NO I NEVER was a man before!lol)
Brings me to the weight point - my weight fluctuates -naturally between 129 and 135lbs- if I put 135 on my site many would assume either I am fat or my photos are old. NO -muscle weighs about 7x what fat does. I am 5'9" and constantly trying to just run the fine line between fit/cut look for fitness work I do and curves/flesh for other work!lol.My bust/wasit ratio is still 39-25-36(34d) and I am the same weight that I was at 20yrs- but at that time I had less muscle mass and less curves!Go figure!
I've had photographers complain I weigh too little(for glamour)and tell me to gain 10-15lbs- and other photographers (for fashion) suggest I lose! Seems for fitness I am almost ok.
But as a Gemini I love dabbling in different things,thus so many jobs.
The BEST way to judge anyones beauty is look in their eyes, listen to their soul, share their energy and passion for life!!
Just my 2 cents. I am having a picnic, and going fishing today!
I admit I am geneticly unusual- my trainers say so but please dont lump women together!I work out almost daily BECAUSE if I don't my muscles get sore like most people's do if you don't exercise!
I am far from anorexic- and i have spent many years working with anorexics as a psych nurse- but my body fat - naturally- I never diet to lose weight- runs between 12.9-15%. When i had a retail store and had absolutely no time at all for exercise for 5 years it went up to 24%. In 6 weeks of wieght training 3x/week and NO diet it was down to 15%.
Point being some people just genetically tend to have more muscle mass.(and NO I NEVER was a man before!lol)
Brings me to the weight point - my weight fluctuates -naturally between 129 and 135lbs- if I put 135 on my site many would assume either I am fat or my photos are old. NO -muscle weighs about 7x what fat does. I am 5'9" and constantly trying to just run the fine line between fit/cut look for fitness work I do and curves/flesh for other work!lol.My bust/wasit ratio is still 39-25-36(34d) and I am the same weight that I was at 20yrs- but at that time I had less muscle mass and less curves!Go figure!
I've had photographers complain I weigh too little(for glamour)and tell me to gain 10-15lbs- and other photographers (for fashion) suggest I lose! Seems for fitness I am almost ok.
But as a Gemini I love dabbling in different things,thus so many jobs.
The BEST way to judge anyones beauty is look in their eyes, listen to their soul, share their energy and passion for life!!
Just my 2 cents. I am having a picnic, and going fishing today!
Beautifully expressed!
You and me baby ain't nothin' but mammals
So let's do it like they do on the Discovery Channel
Like the lost catacombs of Egypt only God knows where we stuck it Hieroglyphics? Let me be Pacific I wanna be down in your South Seas ... 'n share your energies!!!
Harry Monkeylove
Many people complain, yet THEY fail to "see" all that is right in front of them. Hey, I am as guilty as anybody at times. It is OUR loss. Sugar is sweet, but don't complain if you feel empty and are always looking for that next sugar fix. Samantha sounds like complex charbs to me. Alanis you are still sweet, but ... And I ... well I am just monkeying around!Samantha Jones said:
You and me baby ain't nothin' but mammals
So let's do it like they do on the Discovery Channel
Like the lost catacombs of Egypt only God knows where we stuck it Hieroglyphics? Let me be Pacific I wanna be down in your South Seas ... 'n share your energies!!!
Harry Monkeylove
"Also the chances of child bearing at those weights should you find the ideal woman is usually unlikely." - Laura
No babies?! Yippee! Promise?
No babies?! Yippee! Promise?
Dude, this is one sad thread....
I recently got into this, and over a couple of months, I've experienced several SP's. Some fit my physiognomic prejudices - slim, larger breasts, red hair to the T - others vary. I recall a stunning experience with one lady who I chose on the basis of reviews alone (I like the adventure).
Suffice to say I've been lucky to have wonderful times with all my dates. However had I had the opportunity to evaluate on physique rather than reviews (and most photos on most websites do not do justice to the woman within) I would not have chosen to see some of the ladies I have seen. Boy am I glad. Energy, Passion, Intelligence and a genuine enjoyment of Intimacy are what does it for this dude...
Put that in your formulae..... and SP's.... work out if you must, but do it because YOU like the way YOU look....that is what comes shining through...
Der Fliegender Hollander....
I recently got into this, and over a couple of months, I've experienced several SP's. Some fit my physiognomic prejudices - slim, larger breasts, red hair to the T - others vary. I recall a stunning experience with one lady who I chose on the basis of reviews alone (I like the adventure).
Suffice to say I've been lucky to have wonderful times with all my dates. However had I had the opportunity to evaluate on physique rather than reviews (and most photos on most websites do not do justice to the woman within) I would not have chosen to see some of the ladies I have seen. Boy am I glad. Energy, Passion, Intelligence and a genuine enjoyment of Intimacy are what does it for this dude...
Put that in your formulae..... and SP's.... work out if you must, but do it because YOU like the way YOU look....that is what comes shining through...
Der Fliegender Hollander....
Ok...
I'm game... Lets put a fashion model on the tread mill next to me... I use to go to the gym with one... I would be one one and she on the other... She would sit down half way through my workout... But hey what do I know right?
I have only taken power fit courses, been the captain of championship sports teams... Nothing would give me more pleasuer then to test your theory out...
I'm game... Lets put a fashion model on the tread mill next to me... I use to go to the gym with one... I would be one one and she on the other... She would sit down half way through my workout... But hey what do I know right?
I have only taken power fit courses, been the captain of championship sports teams... Nothing would give me more pleasuer then to test your theory out...
Re: The industry.
But what is your point here. Are you suggesting that thin equates to physical fitness? I work out regularly with a girl who would be described by most of you as large. She works out 4-5 times a week. Does aerobics and karate. She would fail miserably in your weight to height scale but would likely outlast your fashion model on the treadlemill test by a large margin.
I've also seen lots of thin guys come in for a workout over the years. They think they're fit but are usually left huffing half way through our workout.
Thin does not always = fit. Sometimes it just means you are unhealthy, anyone who starves themselves to get that way is making an unwise decision.
This would depend on how the model got to your ideal weight. If she got there strictly by dieting, I'd advise you not to bet on her. If she got there by working out regularly along with a healthy diet she has an unfair advantage.picky said:
But what is your point here. Are you suggesting that thin equates to physical fitness? I work out regularly with a girl who would be described by most of you as large. She works out 4-5 times a week. Does aerobics and karate. She would fail miserably in your weight to height scale but would likely outlast your fashion model on the treadlemill test by a large margin.
I've also seen lots of thin guys come in for a workout over the years. They think they're fit but are usually left huffing half way through our workout.
Thin does not always = fit. Sometimes it just means you are unhealthy, anyone who starves themselves to get that way is making an unwise decision.
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Sheesh I can't believe the hostility of this thread. Paladin posted the criteria of what he thought made women attractive. Apparently he likes women who are very, very thin, since not even Cindy Crawford (5'9" and 135lbs) fits the criteria.
In fact, most celebrity sex symbols aren't thin enough to meet Paladin's criteria. Pamela Anderson, Carmen Electra, Jennifer Lopez, Kathy Ireland, Laetitia Costa, and Britany Spears and a very long list of others, don't measure up either. Even a few actresses who've been criticized for being too thin, like Jennifer Aniston (5'4" & 110lbs.) are bigger than the numbers he posted. We're in good company ladies.
I'm all for SP's keeping themselves svelte and in shape, but the point I, and several others have tried to make is that those numbers are going too far. I don't think there's any jealosy involved here. I was model for 6 years. I was 105 lbs. on my 5'7" frame. I could fairly easily starve myself down to that weight again, but why? I looked like hell at that weight. I get a lot more attention from men now when I go out than I did then. Maybe it's because I finally have boobs. LOL
When I worked at the ranch, there were girls of all sizes and shapes. Men picked girls out of a line up, so it was easy to see what body shapes were the most popular. The super thin girls were no busier than than the slightly chubby girls. The girls who were in shape and at their ideal weight were the most popular. In fact breast size and hair seemed to have more of an effect on a girls income than fat %. So who cares if Paladin wants Ally Mc Beal? There are plenty of men, in fact the vast majority, who just want someone who meets their ideal weight, not over or under.
In fact, most celebrity sex symbols aren't thin enough to meet Paladin's criteria. Pamela Anderson, Carmen Electra, Jennifer Lopez, Kathy Ireland, Laetitia Costa, and Britany Spears and a very long list of others, don't measure up either. Even a few actresses who've been criticized for being too thin, like Jennifer Aniston (5'4" & 110lbs.) are bigger than the numbers he posted. We're in good company ladies.
I'm all for SP's keeping themselves svelte and in shape, but the point I, and several others have tried to make is that those numbers are going too far. I don't think there's any jealosy involved here. I was model for 6 years. I was 105 lbs. on my 5'7" frame. I could fairly easily starve myself down to that weight again, but why? I looked like hell at that weight. I get a lot more attention from men now when I go out than I did then. Maybe it's because I finally have boobs. LOL
When I worked at the ranch, there were girls of all sizes and shapes. Men picked girls out of a line up, so it was easy to see what body shapes were the most popular. The super thin girls were no busier than than the slightly chubby girls. The girls who were in shape and at their ideal weight were the most popular. In fact breast size and hair seemed to have more of an effect on a girls income than fat %. So who cares if Paladin wants Ally Mc Beal? There are plenty of men, in fact the vast majority, who just want someone who meets their ideal weight, not over or under.
Again, I don't think those numbers posted by Palain are so abnormal. Anna Kournikova is 5'8" and 120 lbs. Daniela Hantuchova is 5' 11" and 123 lbs. Both girls fall within Paladin's range and are pretty healthy athletes. I know many women who fall within that range. And if you go overseas there are many women who are in that range. Even go to Asia? The majority are slim. Every girl I have dated falls close to Paladin's range. I liek the slim and they are out there. It is not as unrealistic as you think.Heather said:
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Girls!!!There is a chance! Let's start talking about penis SIZE! All I can say is that us, women, have specific preferences and since most of men are not living up to these standards (I could attest empirically through my work at MP!) we could bring up some 3D stats and ideal parameters as to our fantasy love tools as well! What do you think? (gigglespicky said:
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Tiger!
""Open Discussion" does not mean that it's perfectly acceptable for anyone to behave in a totally disrespectful, demeaning, or degrading way towards women. "
Since when does a discussion of body type preferences constitute disrespectful, demeaning or degrading behaviour to women? Have you enrolled in some left-lib women's studies course?
And you might also want to check a sample of my other posts before you call me ignorant. Do so again, and you'll find yourself having to put your money where your mouth is. As you say, talk is cheap.
""Open Discussion" does not mean that it's perfectly acceptable for anyone to behave in a totally disrespectful, demeaning, or degrading way towards women. "
Since when does a discussion of body type preferences constitute disrespectful, demeaning or degrading behaviour to women? Have you enrolled in some left-lib women's studies course?
And you might also want to check a sample of my other posts before you call me ignorant. Do so again, and you'll find yourself having to put your money where your mouth is. As you say, talk is cheap.
oh my god
lets pretend for one minute siobahn we provide a service to these gents , and with that service they are paying for what the want as with any other, and like any other service its about perspective and flexibility, i do thik its about insecurity and nothing else. if you are offended by this perhaps your in wrong business ... kiss hugs licks and nibbles
lets pretend for one minute siobahn we provide a service to these gents , and with that service they are paying for what the want as with any other, and like any other service its about perspective and flexibility, i do thik its about insecurity and nothing else. if you are offended by this perhaps your in wrong business ... kiss hugs licks and nibbles
Tiger!
"The "All" implies that women have the same equal right towards "Open Discussion" as the men. " - Picky
"Yes picky, that was my point. You simply reiterated it. " - Tiger
It seems to me that you were to busy with "women's studies" courses to study any logic! Since when does the right to free speech and open discussion guaranty that you'll like whatever anybody else is saying?
"The "All" implies that women have the same equal right towards "Open Discussion" as the men. " - Picky
"Yes picky, that was my point. You simply reiterated it. " - Tiger
It seems to me that you were to busy with "women's studies" courses to study any logic! Since when does the right to free speech and open discussion guaranty that you'll like whatever anybody else is saying?
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Go for it Alanis just dont forget we are the ones paying for the service not you. If you want certain measurements I think you will loose a lot of clients.
Truth is start talking about it I am sure most guys would find it very entertaining. But I think you will just make this post and dissapear.
Alanis said:
Girls!!!There is a chance! Let's start talking about penis SIZE! All I can say is that us, women, have specific preferences and since most of men are not living up to these standards (I could attest empirically through my work at MP!) we could bring up some 3D stats and ideal parameters as to our fantasy love tools as well! What do you think? (giggles
Go for it Alanis just dont forget we are the ones paying for the service not you. If you want certain measurements I think you will loose a lot of clients.
Truth is start talking about it I am sure most guys would find it very entertaining. But I think you will just make this post and dissapear.
LMAO
Ok... So far I see we have no takers...
But you requested a non-smoking fashion model... Fine by me she can have the one up on that one...
My manicured, pedicured, prissy... All colour co-ordinated... Self would love to play this game... I only say what I mean... What will kill me is falling on the floor in laughter after... You see... Most people are unaware of what my physical abilities are... But to keep this fair it must be a tread mill as I can out lift a lot of men I know.
Ok... So far I see we have no takers...
But you requested a non-smoking fashion model... Fine by me she can have the one up on that one...
My manicured, pedicured, prissy... All colour co-ordinated... Self would love to play this game... I only say what I mean... What will kill me is falling on the floor in laughter after... You see... Most people are unaware of what my physical abilities are... But to keep this fair it must be a tread mill as I can out lift a lot of men I know.
Re: Re: Re: To Tiger.
At any event, I obviously believe that SIZE/ SIZE, and shape, and physical indurance/fitness of the memeber do matter most of the time; however, I will not put my statistical preferences out there since that would not mean anything...
Well, not the ones that would find it entertaining and non-threatening, right?2sexxxy said:
Actually, that would not be the case, since I am more like a phantom MPA to begin with: nobody knows who I am and where I work anyway.2sexxxy said:
At any event, I obviously believe that SIZE/ SIZE, and shape, and physical indurance/fitness of the memeber do matter most of the time; however, I will not put my statistical preferences out there since that would not mean anything...
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i did say something
i did say something and im a voluptous lady, and i feel no threat at all with lil gals, as stated in my ealier post i thik its a vanity and insecurity issue i have neither of these issues so i thik she should just shut up and quit throwing tantrums on the board... theres something called 'freedom of opionion' and we all are allowed to have one... so get a grip and relax siohban,,.. thanks ffrom an independent who is not threatened by a mans opinion of what size matters..
i did say something and im a voluptous lady, and i feel no threat at all with lil gals, as stated in my ealier post i thik its a vanity and insecurity issue i have neither of these issues so i thik she should just shut up and quit throwing tantrums on the board... theres something called 'freedom of opionion' and we all are allowed to have one... so get a grip and relax siohban,,.. thanks ffrom an independent who is not threatened by a mans opinion of what size matters..
