Remembering 9/11

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If I may add one relevant quote from the article :
"NOTE FROM THE EDITORS: This feature is somewhat different from our usual purely scientific articles, in that it contains some speculation. .... Obviously, the content of this article is the responsibility of the authors."

If I may offer a link to scientific analysis back-up by UL tests: http://www.debunking911.com/fires.htm

There has been speculation on the initial condition of the fire retardant in some engineering studies but even these acknowledge the ultimate cause of the collapse. If one took a serious look at the proposal of hiding demolition charges, hijacking planes and flying them directly into the floors that have those charges, not to mention the logistics of the faked hijackings ... I'm amazed there isn't a serious discussion of the reality of Santa Claus that follows.
It is the ONLY relevant quote from the article.
Sensationalist pap. <spits>
 

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Can you elaborate?...ever?
Paisan fuji is an easy target, but I though I explained it sufficiently? And the others that supported my hypothesis. Unless my material science studies be called into question by conspiracy theorists.

I was miserable as a construction worker, did nothing but work, eat, sleep and fart. These days I wouldn't trade that time for anything.
 

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Can you elaborate?...ever?
Yes, I can elaborate. Your claim boils down to refusing to believe the laws of physics and claiming you won't believe anything unless somebody builds a new WTC just to blow it up and see what happens.

That is incredible. Hard to believe that somebody could write nonsense like that and expect to be taken seriously.
 

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Paisan fuji is an easy target, but I though I explained it sufficiently? And the others that supported my hypothesis. Unless my material science studies be called into question by conspiracy theorists.

I was miserable as a construction worker, did nothing but work, eat, sleep and fart. These days I wouldn't trade that time for anything.
Respectfully I just want to see it done again on any size scale, physics are easy to prove im not asking for anyone to breed unicorns lol. I don't see why anybody should be offended over teaching us a physics lesson.
 

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Yes, I can elaborate. Your claim boils down to refusing to believe the laws of physics and claiming you won't believe anything unless somebody builds a new WTC just to blow it up and see what happens.

That is incredible. Hard to believe that somebody could write nonsense like that and expect to be taken seriously.
But Fugi im not refusing to believe the laws of physics im actually listening to the laws of physics. Why would building a scale to explain something that has had such a massive impact in American history. Its been explained how it happened in detail so putting the scenario together should be a breeze.
 

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Respectfully I just want to see it done again on any size scale, physics are easy to prove im not asking for anyone to breed unicorns lol. I don't see why anybody should be offended over teaching us a physics lesson.
Respectfully I just want to see it done again on any size scale, physics are easy to prove im not asking for anyone to breed unicorns lol. I don't see why anybody should be offended over teaching us a physics lesson.

Respectfully and not to be a smartass but nobody owes you an explanation or demonstration that you can understand or accept. Where would it stop?

Once someone goes down the path of conspiracy theories, it is almost impossible to get them off their initial feelings and beliefs. It becomes a personal matter. And people who rely on their feelings and are susceptible to conspiracy theories are not generally the type are swayed by logic or explanations. And certainly not science that they don't really understand.

The foregoing is not meant to be insulting, although I can see that it could easily be taken that way.

Belief or predispositions to things like conspiracy theories are actually natural in the process of evolution. Here is an excellent article that might help people understand why some people are so predisposed to conspiracy theories.

https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4264
 

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How many times has big Government ,Pharma or business lied to people? Millions probably. What happened at Shanksville PA?,where were the plane and the bodies? The Pentagon is the same deal,where was the plane and bodies, we`ve all seen enough episodes of Mayday to know what a plane crash looks like. Also how the hell did building 7 fall down? WTF?? You think the U.S. military was so unprepared to respond...really? Don`t you feel compelled to question the "Official Story"? Same ole`story if a few thousand have to die for others to have power and mega $$Billions$$.
 

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Respectfully and not to be a smartass but nobody owes you an explanation or demonstration that you can understand or accept. Where would it stop?

Once someone goes down the path of conspiracy theories, it is almost impossible to get them off their initial feelings and beliefs. It becomes a personal matter. And people who rely on their feelings and are susceptible to conspiracy theories are not generally the type are swayed by logic or explanations. And certainly not science that they don't really understand.

The foregoing is not meant to be insulting, although I can see that it could easily be taken that way.

Belief or predispositions to things like conspiracy theories are actually natural in the process of evolution. Here is an excellent article that might help people understand why some people are so predisposed to conspiracy theories.

https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4264
If im a conspiracy theorist then so is Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein...those two nut ball's theories are claiming shenanigans.
 

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If im a conspiracy theorist then so is Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein...those two nut ball's theories are claiming shenanigans.
We aren't the only ones questioning the events of that fateful day. I've had numerous conversations with all people from all walks of life, Canadians and Americans alike and the consensus is almost half the people I have talked to about this believe it was a government job. I think even the 911 victims have questioned what really happened.

Didn't the owner of building 7, Silverstein, (who I believe is connected with the Rockefellers) buy the building the summer of 2001, and had his insurance policy up'd and changed that if the building was by chance a victim of terrorism, the building would be covered for that as well - just 2 months before the building came down!!. Silverstein was given 7 billion dollars from insurance. You would have to be remedial to not connect those dots, You don't have to be a rocket scientist to start thinking maybe, just maybe there is something fishy going on here.

The truth always comes out. If there was a plot to bring down those towers by anyone other than actual terrorists, one day when nobody's has anything to lose, it will come out.
 

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And lest we forget the brave demolition crew that set up the explosives in building 7 when it was considered unsafe for firefighters to enter the building...oh wait they changed that story to the building collapsed on its own. lol
How does a building that wasn't hit by anything at all, come down like a stack of cards? Can someone explain this to me?
Why am I absolutely not surprised that you two are conspiracy nuts.

But why are you throwing away a perfectly good opportunity to heap more criticism on Muslims?
 

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Are You a Mind-Controlled CIA Stooge?
http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2016/09/02/are-you-a-mind-controlled-cia-stooge/

Do you smirk when you hear someone question the official stories of Orlando, San Bernardino, Paris or Nice? Do you feel superior to 2,500 architects and engineers, to firefighters, commercial and military pilots, physicists and chemists, and former high government officials who have raised doubts about 9/11? If so, you reflect the profile of a mind-controlled CIA stooge.

The term “conspiracy theory” was invented and put into public discourse by the CIA in 1964 in order to discredit the many skeptics who challenged the Warren Commission’s conclusion that President John F. Kennedy was assassinated by a lone gunman named Lee Harvey Oswald, who himself was assassinated while in police custody before he could be questioned. The CIA used its friends in the media to launch a campaign to make suspicion of the Warren Commission report a target of ridicule and hostility. This campaign was “one of the most successful propaganda initiatives of all time.”
 

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Respectfully I just want to see it done again on any size scale, physics are easy to prove im not asking for anyone to breed unicorns lol. I don't see why anybody should be offended over teaching us a physics lesson.
I'll give you a very simple experiment. Take a small beam of structural steel and lay it over a camp fire. Even though a camp fire is much cooler than burning jet fuel, you will see the metal sag significantly just under its own weight.
 

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There was a documentary about John O'Neill, an FBI anti terrorism agent, on PBS last week. The gist of which was that he knew about the plan to destroy the WTC, including who and how, but because he was such an asshole, no one believed him. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/knew/talk/
That's about the extent of any US governmental involvement (though even here the guy is just a nobody trying to make himself out as a hero)
 

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If im a conspiracy theorist then so is Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein...those two nut ball's theories are claiming shenanigans.
In which was do Newton and Einsteins work prove that the buildings didn't collapse because of the planes and resulting fires?

(this should be good :popcorn:)
 

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Are You a Mind-Controlled CIA Stooge?
Do you feel superior to 2,500 architects and engineers, to firefighters, commercial and military pilots, physicists and chemists, and former high government officials who have raised doubts about 9/11?
Have you ever looked at the actual credentials of the 'architects and engineers'? Have you ever inquired how many of them have ever had anything to do with building high rises (let alone one designed like the twin towers) or actually examined all of the evidence?

Also, do you know how many architects and engineers there are in the US? We are talking 2,500 out of well over 2 million. But sure, go with the opinions of one tenth of a percent of the field.
 
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