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Report: Five members of Canada’s 2018 WJC team told to surrender to London Police

The Oracle

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''Justice Maria Carroccia has just ruled the text messages sent from Brett Howden to teammate Taylor Raddysh on June 26, 2018 , are not admissible.

The texts centre on the butt slap Howden says he heard Dillon Dubé give E.M. in the London hotel room.

Carroccia says the texts are hearsay evidence and their truth and reliability cannot be guaranteed.''

Not good news for the Crown...
 

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''Justice Maria Carroccia has just ruled the text messages sent from Brett Howden to teammate Taylor Raddysh on June 26, 2018 , are not admissible.

The texts centre on the butt slap Howden says he heard Dillon Dubé give E.M. in the London hotel room.

Carroccia says the texts are hearsay evidence and their truth and reliability cannot be guaranteed.''

Not good news for the Crown...
Even worse for Fun For All.
 

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''Justice Maria Carroccia has just ruled the text messages sent from Brett Howden to teammate Taylor Raddysh on June 26, 2018 , are not admissible.

The texts centre on the butt slap Howden says he heard Dillon Dubé give E.M. in the London hotel room.

Carroccia says the texts are hearsay evidence and their truth and reliability cannot be guaranteed.''

Not good news for the Crown...
It wasn't great news for the Crown...but the player Tyler testified he saw Dube do it so it's not as crushing to the Crown as some think.

But it is another break to a player...a personal text a week after the incident from one player to another can't be relied on as truth or reliable...really! I guess Brett Howden's memory loss paid off here.
 
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''Greenspan asks Howden if he sees that E.M.’s back is up against Howden’s chest, and that she and Howden are “grinding together while dancing,” and “she is up against in front of you” and “moving up and down while continuing to face” McLeod.

He blushes as he says he does see it.

Greenspan asks what he sees at the end of the clip, before he walks away from McLeod and E.M.

“I pat her on the butt,” Howden says.''

Did she consent to that pat on the butt?
 

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Why would you think that? You got some Dillon Dube rookie cards losing value?

Wither the final verdict is guilty/not guilty I still think they're guilty...
Even if I did, those cards would have more value than E.M.
Poor, helpless, naive girl, right FFA?
Somebody needs to send her boyfriend a transcript of the testimony before they get married.
 

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''Greenspan asks Howden if he sees that E.M.’s back is up against Howden’s chest, and that she and Howden are “grinding together while dancing,” and “she is up against in front of you” and “moving up and down while continuing to face” McLeod.

He blushes as he says he does see it.

Greenspan asks what he sees at the end of the clip, before he walks away from McLeod and E.M.

“I pat her on the butt,” Howden says.''

Did she consent to that pat on the butt?
Did Howden consent to the grinding?
Where's the paperwork.
 

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Yes you had your mind made up from the beginning..That has been clear.
Go look at some of the earliest comments in this thread. I'm hardly the only one that thinks they were guilty right off the bat..

I think what bothers me about this and about some of you guys is that many many of you know if you haven't actually participated in it you know somebody that has or heard about it happening. You know that this stuff happens and yet it's almost like you're insulted to your man card of thinking "no way, guys wouldn't do something like that. We're too honourable "

Fuck are you guys kidding me? These rich kids kids did this for sure they are selfish bunch of guys that think they're entitled to anything.
 
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Go look at some of the earliest comments in this thread. I'm hardly the only one that thinks they were guilty right off the bat..

I think what bothers me about this and about some of you guys is that many many of you know if you haven't actually participated in it you know somebody that has or heard about it happening. You know that this stuff happens and yet it's almost like you're insulted to your man card of thinking "no way, guys wouldn't do something like that. We're too honourable "

Fuck are you guys kidding me? These rich kids kids did this for sure they are selfish bunch of guys that think they're entitled to anything.
I told you FFA was a chick.
 

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I told you FFA was a chick.
Another stupid comment...not a surprise thou

You say that thinking you're degrading me calling me a chick...that and your numerous insults to E.M. including calling her a tramp and other remarks...I don't know why you hate women so much, maybe you're just a loser with them.
 
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Another stupid comment...not a surprise thou

You say that thinking you're degrading me calling me a chick...that and your numerous insults to E.M. including calling her a tramp and other remarks...I don't know why you hate women so much, maybe you're just a loser with them.
E.M. IS a tramp.
I actually have more respect for women than you do, E.M. does a grave disservice to all decent women who have legitimate beefs.
Why would think being called a chick is degrading, it has more to do with your blatant bias.
Actually, you sound like a man hater that's why you sound like a chick.
After all, you're the one that pronounced the players guilty without hearing any testimony from anyone.
They will be guilty in your eyes no matter what evidence comes to light.
You're proud of that aren't you.
 
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E.M. IS a tramp.
I actually have more respect for women than you do, E.M. does a grave disservice to all decent women who have legitimate beefs.
Why would think being called a chick is degrading, it has more to do with your blatant bias.
Actually, you sound like a man hater that's why you sound like a chick.
After all, you're the one that pronounced the players guilty without hearing any testimony from anyone.
They will be guilty in your eyes no matter what evidence comes to light.
You're proud of that aren't you.
More stupid remarks
 

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There might have been texts sent by guys, but McLeod says he didn’t send any of those messages.

“No, I just told guys I was getting food and I was with a girl,” he tells the detective.

Court has previously seen text messages sent by McLeod to a group chat telling his teammates to come to his room for a “3-way” and oral sex.''

McLeod wasn't being truthful in his account of the text message he sent out to the detective in 2018.

Makes me question what else he isn't being truthful about.
 
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''

There might have been texts sent by guys, but McLeod says he didn’t send any of those messages.

“No, I just told guys I was getting food and I was with a girl,” he tells the detective.

Court has previously seen text messages sent by McLeod to a group chat telling his teammates to come to his room for a “3-way” and oral sex.''

McLeod wasn't being truthful in his account of the text message he sent out to the detective in 2018.

Makes me question what else he isn't being truthful about.
Yes he clearly omitted that from his interview with the detective. That is concerning.
He also said the first consent video was taken in the early stages of when the group sexual activity began and not after the fact. I do believe him there.
 
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They don't have that kind of evidence. If they did, they would already have motioned the judge to allow it in and the 1st defence attorney would be hitting the witness with it.
Past behaviour can’t influence what happened in that particular instance. Otherwise you’re opening up so much more to be including if they want to be doing character judgements which have so many more bias with regards to the jury It needs to remain about the facts of that situation
 
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