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The Oracle

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On the slopes of Mount Parnassus, Greece
That is not enthusiastic consent.
You need to confirm again, and give them an out.
She takes Alex Formenton by the hand and leads him into the restroom...He goes to put on a condom but she says he doesn't have to because she is using birth control...That sounds pretty enthusiastic to me, lol.

The only reason he stepped up was because she was calling them pussies for not wanting to have intercourse with her.
 

mandrill

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I didn't form an opinion about whether the prosecution or the defense evidence was more believable. In my opinion, there was insufficient evidence that a guilty verdict could be reached, because after all was said and done, I still had reasonable doubt. That's all that SHOULD matter, in a criminal trial.
Yes, I agree.
 
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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So you just made that part up about the enthusiasm. Gotcha.
No, consent has to always be enthusiastically and continuously provided.
It is common sense but since you insist you have none, here is something that may help you.
 

mellowjello

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So you just made that part up about the enthusiasm. Gotcha.

btw, Robert Prevost was named Pope, when Francis died.
The balls on the guy.
And unapologetic about it.
Let's see if mandrill, a.k.a. Perry Mason steps in to give him a scolding now.
 

Birf

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I've been to jacks in London, its kind of a dive bar. Possibly this girl was relatively average looking and was smitten by these guys. I played ohl several decades ago and there was always willing girls around. I was a fringe player but the main guys always had their pick of the high school girls.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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The balls on the guy.
And unapologetic about it.
Let's see if mandrill, a.k.a. Perry Mason steps in to give him a scolding now.
I'm surprised he hasn't called the judge a Nazi yet...
C'mon use your heads.
The judge herself said that this was not a finding that sex was consensual, but rather that she was left with reasonable doubt due to the inconsistencies in the girl's statements.
"Not meeting the burden of proof" is not equal to "She lied" or "Everything happened the way it should have".
The verdict is what it is, but making a video after the event is sus.
If everything was fine why would they need to?
 
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No, consent has to always be enthusiastically and continuously provided.
It is common sense but since you insist you have none, here is something that may help you.
RAINN is an American non-profit organization, with no legal status in the Canadian criminal justice system.
 
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JimmyG

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Masturbating in a room full of guys, saying “so is someone going to f—-me or what?..LOL.

That's a lot of reasonable doubt.
Was there actual evidence of this ? Or according to who's testimony did this come from ? The players, or teammates ?
 

JimmyG

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She takes Alex Formenton by the hand and leads him into the restroom...He goes to put on a condom but she says he doesn't have to because she is using birth control...That sounds pretty enthusiastic to me, lol.

The only reason he stepped up was because she was calling them pussies for not wanting to have intercourse with her.
Again who's testimony did this come from ?
Other than Carter Hart, none of the others took the stand, which I understand is their right.
I just wonder if they were scrutinized and cross examined if they would be found as credible or reliable ? Especially Michael McLeod?
 
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