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Frankfooter

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The reason Ukraine people are doing well is all the money they have been receiving from the West.

I don’t want my taxpayer dollar go to Ukraine tho.

I don’t believe Russia is a real threat to us.
At this point its Ukrainian drones that are doing the damage.
Not american weapons.

That should be the lesson.
 
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oil&gas

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I don’t want my taxpayer dollar go to Ukraine tho.

I don’t believe Russia is a real threat to us.
Putin is not a real threat to us but our leaders want you
to believe Russia will invade us from Arctic north after
Ukraine is conquered. I wish Trudeau had the honesty to
confess our tax money had to be spent on Ukraine for
his virtue-signalling and photo op with Zelensky.
 
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SchlongConery

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You really think Russia has no spares, and even if they don't that Uncle Xi cannot provide them with as many transformers as they need? 😄🤣🤣

And what will Papa Putin pay Uncle Xi with since China is now reportedly not going to be buying Russian oil?

" 😄🤣🤣"

 

SchlongConery

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Putin is not a real threat to us but our leaders want you
to believe Russia will invade us from Arctic north after
Ukraine is conquered. I wish Trudeau had the honesty to
confess our tax money had to be spent on Ukraine for
his virtue-signalling and photo op with Zelensky.

Putin IS a threat to Canada and the free world democracies.

The Russian shrimp's ability to fight above it's weight is due to his absolutely superior, second-to-none, ability to sow chaos. Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt.

And NO present day Canadian leader has said Russia is going to invade Canada from the Arctic north. (Please stop saying "us" when referring to Canadians, Vatnik)

The sovereignity threat to Canada ahs to do with Russia's ability to use their superior arctic marine resources (nuclear icebreakers and submarines) to exert influence or be the "little green men" who simply arrive in Canada's Northwest Passage. And we have no ships nor other ability to assert our soveriengity , least of all protect or defend ourselves freom that absolute threat.

So, de-fanging Putin through letting him bleed himself and Russia's overall resources out, in in our 🇨🇦 best interests. Maybe not your misguided pro-Russian interests, as a Russian living in Canada. But it is our 🇨🇦 loyal Canadian interests as a country and as a people.
 

boobtoucher

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The reason Ukraine people are doing well is all the money they have been receiving from the West.

I don’t want my taxpayer dollar go to Ukraine tho.

I don’t believe Russia is a real threat to us.
Not to us, but you also can't believe that Russia would stop at the Ukrainian border if they were given free reign.

Finland, Poland, Former Eastern Bloc countries, etc.

All of a sudden, we're knocking on the door of Italy, where I have family and property.

I also have fighting-aged sons.

So I'd rather my tax money go to stop Russia in Ukraine, using Ukrainian blood than my sons go and protect the rest of Europe.

Morally reprehensible? Probably, but fewer total resources and fewer total lives to do it this way than to allow Russia to start a conflict with NATO.
 

jalimon

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The reason Ukraine people are doing well is all the money they have been receiving from the West.

I don’t want my taxpayer dollar go to Ukraine tho.

I don’t believe Russia is a real threat to us.
No money is sent. The money is spent here on our military to help Ukraine.
 
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oil&gas

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And NO present day Canadian leader has said Russia is going to invade Canada from the Arctic north. (Please stop saying "us" when referring to Canadians, Vatnik)
Our leaders don't have to explicitly tell us precisely what Putin's future strategy of
military invasion into the west will be to fool Canadians. Apparently some folks are
already fooled into the anticipation of having to defend Canada on European soil.
I am sure I did read about Russian invasion from the north as one of the justification
of Trudeau squandering our money on funding Ukraine.

And yes when referring to Canadians I'll say "us' because I am, like most
of you I believe, also a tax paying citizen. As such I decide that I have a say
on why my money is better not squandered on defense of a country other
than my own.
 

nottyboi

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And what will Papa Putin pay Uncle Xi with since China is now reportedly not going to be buying Russian oil?

" 😄🤣🤣"

You are funny, of course he will buy Russian oil, he just forced Orange Clown to back down on secondary sanctions, and the 50% rule. (don't suppose you know what that is) lol. But essentially they can now import Russian oil sanction free.
 

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You really think Russia has no spares, and even if they don't that Uncle Xi cannot provide them with as many transformers as they need? 😄🤣🤣
Uncle XI and the other POS dictators are the ones who have been having a proxy war against Ukraine. Without them, Putin, along with Russia, would have fizzled out a long time ago. I include Trump in the POS dictators, although at this point, he's a wannabe dictator.
 
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Uncle XI and the other POS dictators are the ones who have been having a proxy war against Ukraine. Without them, Putin, along with Russia, would have fizzled out a long time ago. I include Trump in the POS dictators, although at this point, he's a wannabe dictator.

I am sure Xi, Modi and other POS dictators are the ones making money
Putin has to give away to earn their support. I am sure Kim wasn't the
one to pay allowances to the mercenaries he sent to Putin's rescue. Wish
Ukraine will reimburse us taxpayers on Trudeau's expense on gifting
Zelensky.
 
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SchlongConery

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You are funny, of course he will buy Russian oil, he just forced Orange Clown to back down on secondary sanctions, and the 50% rule. (don't suppose you know what that is) lol. But essentially they can now import Russian oil sanction free.
you are right I don’t know about that 50% rule or the secondary sanctions

Can you please explain.
 

nottyboi

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you are right I don’t know about that 50% rule or the secondary sanctions

Can you please explain.
The US extended sanctions to subsidaries that they owned more then 50% equity, this increased the sanctions entities 40 fold. China forced them to cancel this provision AND the traiff for buying oil. So this means Chinese companies can avoid all number of sanctions by creating subsidiaries for this purpose.
 

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Not to us, but you also can't believe that Russia would stop at the Ukrainian border if they were given free reign.

Finland, Poland, Former Eastern Bloc countries, etc.

All of a sudden, we're knocking on the door of Italy, where I have family and property.

I also have fighting-aged sons.

So I'd rather my tax money go to stop Russia in Ukraine, using Ukrainian blood than my sons go and protect the rest of Europe.

Morally reprehensible? Probably, but fewer total resources and fewer total lives to do it this way than to allow Russia to start a conflict with NATO.
It’s a paranoia imho. We in the west were ok even when in the past the entire Eastern Europe was led by the Soviet Union. The Russians aren’t our main threat. The islamization of the west is.
 
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