Should have spent my money on an SP instead of a date.

GPIDEAL

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Meeting a woman for a date on a street corner is always a bad idea, no matter how long you've known her. Here is a short list of the reasons why:

1. Women are terrible at directions. There is a very good chance you'll end up on different corners, and the date will therefore either abort or start off horribly.
2. If she is attractive, she'll have to deal with guys hitting on her while she waits for you (if she's there first).
3. If you're there first, you'll be wasting your time hanging out on a street corner (is that how/where you want to spend your time?). You will likely not be able to pass the time fending off women who will be flirting with you. More likely, as a single guy hanging out on a corner for an extended time, you'll be assumed to be a loser, homeless, or worse.
4. It may be loud, and hard to hear your phone if you need to call each other (if one of you is late).
5. It could rain/snow/etc.
6. She will likely resent that you've put her to any inconvenience, and meeting someone at any location that isn't familiar is an inconvenience.

As to your main point, it may be that it is not cost effective or an effective use of time to date civilians compared to seeing SPs. However, that would depend entirely on how much fun you have on your dates, and how much you can suspend your hold on reality while you're with an SP. In other words, it's a crapshoot which is the better deal/experience. In my own personal experience, most first dates/early dates don't turn out to be worthwhile. Also, most sessions with SPs turn out not to be worthwhile.

But no one ever told me to expect life to be perfect, so I accept the bad with the good.
You forgot that a car can pass by close to the curb and drive over a puddle to splash her. (This is unacceptable).
 

GPIDEAL

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Oh boy, you guys are clueless. Look, a street corner wouldn't be my first choice either (not hard to specify a local bar or coffee shop), but she agreed to it REGARDLESS.

She didn't forget about the date. She purposely no-showed and had a passive-aggressive conniption about it after the fact. Immature, insecure, prone to drama/games - red flags all around.

You only understand women one way (or don't understand them at all).
 

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I'm sure I'm older than you. But I learned the lesson years ago.
After my divorce I normally started dating. Ran into all sorts of wackos that initially seemed normal.
Like you said, the entitlement, was one of the first blocks I hit.
I don't mind paying. However these women work and some of them made more than I did. Would be nice to treated once in a while.
Rarely. I was never in it to take someone for a ride but I don't like to be ridden either.
Then you reach the stage where many have children. You gotta be nice to them. They usually hate you because you're not daddy etc.
Now I have to coo at how beautiful their grandkids are. What the fuck do I care?
Once you make it past that gauntlet you have to make good with their friends and family.
Give me an hour or two with an sp. She'll do things the date never would and I'm not talking anything weird.
After, I get to brag over drinks to my jealous married buddies about the 19-20 year old I just bagged.
I'm KING of my house, what I eat, do, watch and when.
I can stare at young women without having to worry about it.
I have married friends that have not had it for more than a decade.
I just call take-out when the mini-sizzler has an urge.
Nothing better.:thumb:
Hi, This is me now. The same is happing to me now. I would much prefer spending a couple of hundred bucks and go home to a happy house.
 

GPIDEAL

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Maybe she is richer than you? Its hard dating or gambling with people who are richer than you. Maybe for her, those bags are cheap- it doesn't necessarily mean she is shallow.
True! (I can't resist to say that maybe she's making a lot of money as an MPA too. Industry girls date too and like to be treated nice).
 

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Not sure it has anything to do with her being Asian or korean- not too many women would want to me on a street corner on a second date.
What he said. Again if your goal is to get laid, then SPs are the best bang for the buck.
 

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I don't even know where to start here. A street corner? Really? Dude....hand back your man card.

The girl was not a keeper (talking about all the men that hit on her is a red flag for whole bunch of reasons) and the OP completely missed the signals she was sending. And let's face it, he wanted sex not a relationship.

When that's your sole objective, perhaps an SP would be a better option.
 

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Again if your goal is to get laid, then SPs are the best bang for the buck.
If you are looking for guaranteed one night sex - I would agree. A date is a long term investment. Once you score with a date, the amount of effort for a return result is dramatically reduced where as an SP will always be the same. This is ignoring a significant date benefit - affection and a willingness to provide companionship without a meter.
 

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Not much of a part 2. We texted for a few weeks back and forth. I kept on thumbing around thinking if I really want to take her out again. Although she is hot seemed like a bit of drama queen. And don't like chicks with tempers and if a girl is girlfriend / cool chick material being chill is one of my criteria. Plus I was busy dating other girls.

Then finally could see she still seemed invested in me when I would text her, so we setup another date which she seemed super eager and happy I asked her out again. We joked about the whole street corner thing and I asked her how would she liked to be picked up which I added with the disclaimer as "here comes the fun part" and if she want me to pick her up with my car?" which she seemed to laugh at that and recognize it was just a miscommunication. Then she ended up cancelled on the day before the date and then went on radio silence and didn't respond. And I was pretty much "Meh. Proves she's a bit of a drama queen" and probably just wanted the validation of having the "last say" instead of it ending with me blowing her off. But as is my dating life is full dating 4 women right now, haven't even had time to make an SP session really. Which I have been craving because hobbying is still my favourite sport. But Jimmy has been working long hours each week and has no more shots left at the end of the week.

Thanks waynward for sharing your story! I thought it was really funny. Is there a part two? Did you ever go out with her again?
 

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Then finally could see she still seemed invested in me when I would text her, so we setup another date which she seemed super eager and happy I asked her out again. We joked about the whole street corner thing and I asked her how would she liked to be picked up which I added with the disclaimer as "here comes the fun part" and if she want me to pick her up with my car?" which she seemed to laugh at that and recognize it was just a miscommunication. Then she ended up cancelled on the day before the date and then went on radio silence and didn't respond.
I've been seeing some civvie girls off a dating website and it seems that a lot of them are as reliable as backpage SPs.
 

waynward

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Which site?

I do most meeting of my women through cold approaching pick up these days. Since I like the what you see is what you get which you don't get online. Either at clubs or just talking to them off "street" or mall when I'm about my business during the day and random approach. But there are some good sites out there depending on what your looking for which I have used in the past and don't have as much time too now. And you just have to develop a good nose for recognizing accurate pictures. My fatty meter is well honed, you just gotta watch out for those "myspace angles" (Overhead shots) and too many duckfaces with no body shots. Plus stuff with too much of a filter on it. In generally I usually knock down a point of what they look in real life. (Ie. if she is a 7 in her pictures, she's probably a 6 in her everyday look since the pictures are carefully selected for the best days)

match.com - Is good for something more long term. A paid site but quality of people and responses are better. Tends to be more of a mature crowd
tinder - Pretty shitty these days. Used to be better about a year ago.
POF - Pretty good for hookups. But moreso for a 20s crowd, can feel like a bit of online bar. So chicks can be crass, you have to have your A game even online here
okcupid - Kind of a good mix of POF and Match. Can find a combination of hook ups and people looking for something serious. P

I've been seeing some civvie girls off a dating website and it seems that a lot of them are as reliable as backpage SPs.
 

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IMO, you lost all control when you gushed and told her she was 'stunning'.
She saw you were weak and had you wrapped around her little finger. That said she probably didn't consciously screw you over for drinks or dinner...she's likely use to being put on a pedestal.
He might be right about this. From the sounds of your story, I expected you would take her back to your place and fuck her all night?

She does sound batshit crazy though. Maybe she was drunk or on extacy when you first met her.
 

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OP. When I was in University my roommate used to lack basic etiquette and then call out his date for being a bitch and break things off on bad terms. Well, guess who was the compassionate guy who would console the cast-offs?

Me. And half the time it would lead to mind-blowing sex which eventually went nowhere in terms of an actual relationship.

Please private message me her number, bro? Batshit crazy & on the rebound is the perfect find for me!
 

waynward

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Sorry I disagree with you both here. If you approach enough women out of the blue that you don't know, you learn that authenticity is a key point here. Which sets you apart from the other dozens approaches and advances that attractive women get every day. Which is why many women don't even respond to random approaches. Since they lack sincerity and just a means for a guy to get to an end without any connection (Ie. the end of acquiring Validation of their own value and sex). And will repeat the same thing to the next woman as a canned statement. Usually there is a glimmer in your eye and energy to you when you're highly attracted to a women and saying from authentic place (Without being from a place of neediness and defining your own value whether she respond favourbly or not). Versus finding her generally "attractive" and not someone who literally makes you feel tingles in your belly making you do a double take. And the usually makes her feel special and more initially connected which that energy comes out in your subtle communication and body language.

There is a difference however if you do it in a way the reeks desperation and wanting validation from her. And that all comes in the delivery and tonality in it. Versus just expressing yourself for your own benefit of being vocal becauese it feels good and doing it with confidence. Half the time I do say something like this it's moreso for the fact being congruent in expressing myself. And most women actually seem to appreciate it as a genuine compliment and have made their day regardless if she is with someone or not. So whatever her response actually doesn't matter so much as me just feeling congruent with expressing myself. The words don't count for much versus the energy behind them and the place where they seem to be coming from.

*** Quote Originally Posted by lewd

IMO, you lost all control when you gushed and told her she was 'stunning'.
She saw you were weak and had you wrapped around her little finger. That said she probably didn't consciously screw you over for drinks or dinner...she's likely use to being put on a pedestal.

lucky_blue;54/01626 said:
He might be right about this. From the sounds of your story, I expected you would take her back to your place and fuck her all night?

She does sound batshit crazy though. Maybe she was drunk or on extacy when you first met her.
 
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