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solo223

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funny title huh? mentioning the showers first....mostly because it was the highlight of the session, which says a lot. So to backtrack a little, when Brass opened i registered as a member and thought i'd try the place rather quickly but then i changed work location so it wasn't as convenient as i thought it might be at the time. Nevertheless yesterday i had some business to attend downtown along with a little friendly meeting and thought to myself afterwards, why not check it out for a simple visit.

Got up there, Jess is behind the counter. Very welcoming lady i must say, offered me a choice of drinks (coffee) , some chit chat and she directs the desk attendant to show me around...

So first impression, very good..i like the entrance hall, nice couches. Little bar and food behind the counter, nice touch. One big room that looks awesome with a large bed One room is quite small, too small in fact. Awesome shower heads

the bad: won't hold it against the girls on the couches who were having fun for one's birthday, after all most of them are very young and young people, well they want to have fun same i did when i was that age....but the boyfriend of one hanging around...hmmmm not so sure about that one, might make some clients uncomfortable. That was my first thought, didn't bother me personally but i can imagine some men coming in, seeing this and not feel at ease...something for Jessica to think about. Boyfriends hanging out hmmm no...i'd only go evening because parking downtown is an issue, if daytime, expect to pay extra for that unless you walk in.

So anyway i left with a mixed bag of impressions, thanked Jess for the unscheduled visit and got on my way. Later on when back home and was getting ready for the evening, i told myself why not go...had a stressful deadline week to deal with and i needed a change of scenery so i decided to book with Primrose.

Got there 15 min. prior to appointed time, thought i may sit at that little bar and have a drink but there was a couple signing up, no big deal, was offered a drink and i sat along with 2 other fellas, one came in unscheduled and the other had an appointment. 5 minutes in i am lead to the room. Guess my luck ran out right there, i got the smallest room. It's so small that the MA can't move around the table, she must stay on one side of the table which kind of limits her range of action, at one point i offered to rub her back which she gladly accepted. I stayed standing but at one point i got on the table, it cracked some and i thought 'my god we'll come crashing down' in a heap of oil....but the poor table withstood the barrage of pain, good thing i'm not overweight though because i'm not sure it would have taken the beating. So the room, nahhhh...way to small.

Now to the main event...the damn showers...now i am no licensed plumber but i did a lot of renovation work in my lifetime. Whoever planned water tank usage versus # rooms clearly didn't consider that with these elaborate multiple outlets shower heads, you burn water like fuel evaporates in a joy fire. He failed this big time and i would have sued him for poor planning alone. There was NO HOT WATER, not even ONE DROP when we got to the first shower, tepid at best and that only lasted like 30 seconds, the room had no heater and it was chilly. I got out cold, I thought well maybe after the hour the tanks will have replenished some, but it was even worse...not ONE DROP either on the 2nd shower, it was even colder. So we just had to towel off with the damp towels. Speaking of towels, they had clearly seen a lot of usage and given the hot water problem, i suspect they don't come out of the washer drier very...hmmm white. Ho, forgot to mention that whoever prepped the room, forgot the shower soap. We got naked and ready for what proved to be a cold shower only to see there was no soap. So i was left standing naked while my attendant rushed out to get some soap.

I understand i may not have been the best of clients as far as frequency is concerned but i am disappointed in the room i got, the complete lack of hot water, soap missing and towels that didn't appear fresh to me. I thought this water issue would have been resolved by now but it's not. I got out thinking what was this? Didn't feel refreshed or relaxed and finished the night with the sticky feeling under my clothes until i got home to a HOT cleansing shower. I know Jessica is trying hard to resolve this issue but maybe they should just close one room (the one i got should just be used as storage) to save some water as i'm sure i wasn't the only one who got a cold shower.

And out of all this rather strange and unpleasant hour...well that may be a little strong, i'll say moment i will not care to remember, i forget to mention my attendant Primrose. Super sweet girl, talkative. Gives a relaxing massage, liked the body slides and the interaction got better as we moved along (always that first meet, break the ice moment). She is rather new at this but did her best, she tried hard in spite of the circumstances, i suspect the shower would have been a lot more pleasant if there had been hot water but as things were, we just stood in there wanting to get out as soon as we could. I am not sure if i would go back, if i did i would want some form of guarantee that i get a better room, a HOT shower and fresh towels. I have visited CMJ a couple of times and the rooms there are larger, even out east where they are generally smaller than out west, there is still ample space to move around and enjoy some slippery fun, not so much in the room i got.

All in all, a rather disappointing first visit (except for Primrose which i can't for the life of me blame for anything)

edit: Last night i logged on my Brass account no problem. Now am locked out, say wrong password...even stranger
 
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I've been 3 times and twice the showers were cold. I assumed they had fixed the issue, but I guess not.

And yeah, I'm not comfortable enough to sit at a bar with other hobbyists.
 

beast33

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The issue was addressed by Jessica herself on this board as seen below. Don't complain about an issue that has been addressed by the owner while fixes are in place. They started with 2 hot water tanks, then to three, and now a gas hot water heater that is getting installed as of now. You're on the board I'm sure you were aware of the issue before you went. All you had to do was wait

Jessica's post on March 17, 2017

The Brass Club went through considerable planning and expense to provide our clients and hostesses with the best possible experience; unfortunately, we are victims of our own success. We are busy and far more successful than expected and beyond our expectation in our first year open. The hot water is an occasional issue when all 9 shower towers are being used at once (we have two in the huge Brass Room shower). The tanks cannot replenish themselves quick enough. We wish to solve this occasional inconvenience. We now have three hot water tanks.... to the disbelief of all professionals in the building industry. Tankless will not be able to handle 9 showers in a commercial setting. After much consultation with plumbing and HVAC professionals as well as our engineer, we have concluded that adding a super commercial gas hot water tank along with the existing three tanks will resolve the issue permanently. At great cost to the club, we have agreed and the work is being done as I write this message. We ask for your patience as we address this. We appreciate your loyalty very much.
 
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The issue was addressed by Jessica herself on this board as seen below. Don't complain about an issue that has been addressed by the owner while fixes are in place. They started with 2 hot water tanks, then to three, and now a gas hot water heater that is getting installed as of now. You're on the board I'm sure you were aware of the issue before you went. All you had to do was wait

Jessica's post on March 17, 2017

The Brass Club went through considerable planning and expense to provide our clients and hostesses with the best possible experience; unfortunately, we are victims of our own success. We are busy and far more successful than expected and beyond our expectation in our first year open. The hot water is an occasional issue when all 9 shower towers are being used at once (we have two in the huge Brass Room shower). The tanks cannot replenish themselves quick enough. We wish to solve this occasional inconvenience. We now have three hot water tanks.... to the disbelief of all professionals in the building industry. Tankless will not be able to handle 9 showers in a commercial setting. After much consultation with plumbing and HVAC professionals as well as our engineer, we have concluded that adding a super commercial gas hot water tank along with the existing three tanks will resolve the issue permanently. At great cost to the club, we have agreed and the work is being done as I write this message. We ask for your patience as we address this. We appreciate your loyalty very much.
Perhaps it would be wise for clients to be told the problem is not yet fixed so they could delay their visit until it is fixed? That would avoid unhappy clients, telling people not to complain about issues just because the owner says she is trying does not fix the problem. IF clients were warned so they could choose to wait that might be wise. Expecting the client to ask if it is fixed is irrational.

Guys hear good reviews and decide to book a hot BC girl. He may or may not have read the thread about the hot water issue. Maybe since that post from Jess was 3 weeks ago they figure it is fixed now. More likely their dick is telling them to go see the hot girl, but not reminding them about the hot water issue. Whatever the reason, a heads up when booking could avoid poor reviews. Don't blame the poor guy with prunes for balls. You do realize not all clients are on Terb and are not aware of the issue until their balls shrivel up??

Jess has always been first class, whether working for someone, being indy, or BC. I'm kind of shocked she is dropping the ball with this, it isn't the usual based on the past. I'm sure it will eventually be fixed, I have no doubt. But until it is BC would be wise to give a guy a heads up that the hot water is inconsistent to avoid possible bad publicity over it. My 2 cents ..........
 

solo223

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Sorry to have posted my experience,. One easy possible solution to mitigate this might have been to close one room, thus using less water and not submitting your clients to cold showers. This is a rub spa, you need hot water at all times and clients expect it if you're open. If you know you have a problem and work to fix it, fine but find an interim solution so your clients get an enjoyable experience and not one that is unpleasant. This is a place to unwind and relax and cold showers doesn't do that. I was aware back then it was an issue but not whether it had been fixed or not...
 
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Sorry to have posted my experience,. One easy possible solution to mitigate this might have been to close one room, thus using less water and not submitting your clients to cold showers. This is a rub spa, you need hot water at all times and clients expect it if you're open. If you know you have a problem and work to fix it, fine but find an interim solution so your clients get an enjoyable experience and not one that is unpleasant. This is a place to unwind and relax and cold showers doesn't do that. I was aware back then it was an issue but not whether it had been fixed or not...
I for one am very glad you posted. I read the great reviews and have been considering going to BC for a while. And I would likely have suspected that the issue was fixed ..... IF I remembered reading about it ..... and been very upset if I had gone and had your experience. I now know to wait before considering a visit until I hear it is fixed. This will not keep me from going to BC in the least, I just will not go until I know there is no more hot water issue.

You are 100% correct that it is the expectation that a trip to ANY spa will include the usual amenities including warm or hot water depending on preference. Anything less is just as bad as the MA giving bad service, you are paying for the expectation there are no issues with facilities. In the past (years ago) I remember reading about somewhere with shower issues and guys were happy to know about that. Same here, until it is fixed.

But I, and I'm sure many others, am very happy you alerted us to a possible bad experience. Thanks again.
 

solo223

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they apparently installed the gaz heated tank today....guess i was 1 day too early...still i would have appreciated to know the possibility that being a busy night, they might run out. I would have postponed to another day
 

beast33

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I guess you do have a point. I have been updated when by the girls since the addition of the third tank and actually knew when the install was going to take place as well that the new one was going to be gas. I guess if your going to just pop in and especially if it was your first time you are just going to assume there is hot water.
 

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I was at BC soon after it opened. I do not think they were as busy. I frankly do not remember who saw. She was ok i would say. If she was really bad or really good then i would have remebered.
The water was good though.
However i am not sure i would be back due to the volume and having Boy friends in there ouch...
Also looking at the schedule one can find 10+ ladies on the same shift. That can make fir an awesome selection but at the same time it makes me feel like i am at costco on a saturday. BC please dont take this as a criticism it's just my preference. But damn some of the girls seem worth it��
 

beast33

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I was at BC soon after it opened. I do not think they were as busy. I frankly do not remember who saw. She was ok i would say. If she was really bad or really good then i would have remebered.
The water was good though.
However i am not sure i would be back due to the volume and having Boy friends in there ouch...
Also looking at the schedule one can find 10+ ladies on the same shift. That can make fir an awesome selection but at the same time it makes me feel like i am at costco on a saturday. BC please dont take this as a criticism it's just my preference. But damn some of the girls seem worth it��
I just happened to be there one night when one of the girls had a birthday, and they had a party for her and her boyfriend was there.
I looked at the girl I was with that night and actually asked her if the boyfriends were allowed as I was shocked as you. It was all cool and we had a great time. I actually asked him how he is so cool about it and his answer was "if you think she's wild when she's here you should see what happens when we get home"
 

solo223

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except that some older men may find it very uncomfortable seeing the boyfriends hanging around....most guys who go to a spa want discretion, drama free and feel comfortable, some are married and such...seeing the dudes there may not put them at ease...i wouldn't allow it as an owner, you come in to work..if it's your Bday, we can celebrate afterwards or on some other venue so leave the BF behind...and guys really don't care to know how it is back home for 'em...really...
 

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Thank you Solo for the post, not so much to beast for the completely pointless rebuttal which was clearly not meant to be informative so much as condescending. As you stated it was already addressed by the club so no need for you to represent the club. Solo was posting about more than just the water issue.

I had a similar experience to Solo's at Angels where due to it being busy we were stuck in a closet with barely room to move just across from the front desk that I hadn't known existed until that day. It definitely does not create a 'cozy atmosphere' when it's confined. I luckily have not been in that room at Brass yet and have so far avoided the cold water issue but I am very selective of the times I go and aim for when I know it will be less busy mostly due to the fact I agree with Solo on looking for discretion. It may be that BC needs to be thought of as more of a social club. Personally I am hoping that given their great success they choose to open a second venue which would help with the traffic but I get that it's only been a year.
 

solo223

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thank you for the support...clearly the water issue was the main disappointment, if that alone would not have been a problem i would probably have forgotten about the rest as trivial. But that and the other issues i raised all added up for a less than memorable experience. This hobby is not cheap, as a paying customer to a reputable SPA, you expect a warm welcome, a dedicated attendant, hot showers, decent room, soap, clean and fresh towels. Primrose was very accommodating and i want to stress that she did everything one would expect, she is a sweetheart. I have written to Brass so i'll see what they say about it...
 

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I've experienced one time where after arriving, saw two guys sitting on the couches with several of the girls. I didn't think much of it thinking they were clients and that reception didn't bother to move them behind the bar. However, reading the discussions here and the fact that what I heard was them discussing plans for the evening makes me think otherwise. So if they were just clients then staff didn't do a good job of keeping things discreet, if they were friends or boyfriends it makes it even worse because there's even more of a priority to maintain discretion as there no longer exists a mutual sentiment between fellow hobbyists.
 

solo223

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maybe when things get too successful, you become complacent....go figure...i just don't dig the acceptance of boy toys in the reception area. Makes you wonder if it's become their hang out place before the nightclubs....
 

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The last time I dropped by for a drink at the Brass Club, most of the girls were out in the reception area, and a few guys including myself were also there. I didn't mind at all, however I'm pretty sure all of them were clients even though some of the conversation might initially suggest otherwise, after all certain regular clients do develop a certain familiarity and rapport with the hostesses.

A funny anecdote: I was at a CMJ party and was chatting with who I thought was a fellow club member, and I might have gushed a little bit about my favourite hostess at CMJ. I only found out later on (not that night) that we was the boyfriend of one of the hostesses, and yes it was the hostess who I was quite enamored with. He had a great poker face though I didn't suspect a thing!
 

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Well, the beast has arrived and is installed according to the latest ad.
Showers should be nice and hot (I prefer warm).

Initially when I read the comments about MAs bf being there, I thought 'that is awkward'. But on 2nd thought, the club does allow couples to visit.
As long as, the SO does not interfere with the normal routines of the session, I don't think it to be a big problem.
 

beast33

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They always ask both parties if the mind another guy to come to the bar or sit a on the couch. On more than one occasion I was told to hide behind the wall until that patron left as he did not want anybody to see him there.
 
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They always ask both parties if the mind another guy to come to the bar or sit a on the couch. On more than one occasion I was told to hide behind the wall until that patron left as he did not want anybody to see him there.
I've read this several times and it makes me wonder. How long are you made to "hide behind a wall" waiting to sit at the bar? If the other guy just got there it could be a long uncomfortable wait.

While it appears to be a nice amenity, the concept of hiding and waiting to assure privacy seems to diminish the value. I mean, the respect of privacy is a very good thing but it almost renders the amenity useless. I always read comments like this and think I am missing something?
 
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