So how many of you are for longer jail sentences......
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That's why 80-90% of all major crimes are plea bargained out. Good or not, who know?
Neither should ideological or political considerations. The fact is, crime is at an all time low, so why should we be spending billions on this when there are so many other fiscal pressures? The cons have not fully explained their position or offered a vision or any data to back up this course of action... they have not even fully costed it. How many times has Kevin Page been right and the Cons wrong...
It does to a point. Get court over, plea to a lesser charge, maybe do house arrest instead of jail time and save money. Think it through. you're thinking per inmate whereas I'm thinking end game numbers. FFS they want to double stack them in the cells now. Their argument is that they can because it's not illegal, but it is and even if it wasn't illegal any knowledgeable mind in the field said it's just wrong. There's overcrowding already and they want to be able to put more in there. Harpo and his gang are certifiable.
if you plea the Crown and judge will throw you a bone for not wasting THEIR time/resources, but there is no way that cost of incarceration will even enter into the equation
major crimes do get plea-bargained because the evidence is often overwhelming and the accused wants to get some kind of a deal rather than be sentenced by a judge who had to sit through a long trial in absence of legitimate defence (and is understandably irritated by this waste of time/resources as well as obvious lack of remorse)
the notion of cost of incarceration influencing the plea bargaining system is ridiculous on more than one level; sorry for my responce being brief and not fully covering the issue
In many cases the Crown will also use the legal process itself as punishment. They will proceed to trial just so the defendant spends THOUSANDS of dollars to prepare for trial, while the crown has no intention of ever proceeding. At the opening of the trial they will drop all charges but a minimum if 25-50K has already been blown by the defence.
Why not?
Do you propose that all crimes involving goods of five shillings or more in value should still be Capital Offenses? Should chattel slavery still be legal? The fact that they are not involved ideological, political and religious considerations.
Oh come on, what you describe is prosecutorial misconduct that will result in disbarment and possibly criminal prosecution.
and besides, I hate to point out the obvious but in 9 cases out of 10 these are funded by legal aid and not by the defendant anyway
Nine out of 10. I'll be nice and not ask for a reference, but ou know this how?
Y do you say that? Are you the Grammar Nazis. Welcome back. It's been so long. We needed more shite to kick around the yard. It's been too quiet.
Well, a smiley or a referral, would help, but fair enough. AH seems to be taking a page out of Pekkerheads book of wisdom and wit. He has to be careful though. It was a very thin book to start with and had big print to boot.
Grammar/Spelling, I'll let the more literary/linguistically adept members handle that one.
Edit; nicely done.
