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Francesca22

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Ok, tool boy... now that you've included me in this directly... here we go. (And yes big bold and beautiful)


tboy said:
And francesca: that may be fine and good for repeat customers because then the topic never arises whether they click with you or not, well, if they are brain dead and don't click with you and keep coming back that's their problem.
I don't offer a meet and greet regardless, so REPEAT or not... as I said (quote below)
To me, I would rather spend my time with someone who KNOWS and is certain he wants to see me, then convince someone who isn't. Hard sells are just that and honestly not worth my time because the experience will be equally disappointing for both of us.
tboy said:
I'm talking about meeting potential new clients etc and if you're so busy you don't want new ones, then more power to you.
I don't have to "meet and greet" to get new clients, especially not on my time without being compensated for it OR reducing my rates, as suggested above. I didn't say this because I was soooooo BUSY (which I am) BUT did say I don't make myself available to this, or feel its necessary because I have a track record of providing excellent service and can say of those who DO take a risk of what you call "wasting" their money.... they ALWAYS come back.

More times then not, they happily extend from the hourly to multi hourly after an initial meeting. At least read what I said prior to making a remark full of innuendo.

I always welcome new clients. I NEVER have a new client request such a service and if it was, as I said- would set the wrong tone with me and contribute to both of us being dissapointed.

I feel it IS a waste of my time to attract clients in this manner especially when my marketing is better suited elsewhere and is successful. This is a CHOICE I make. I charge for my time and easily attain clients who respect the parameter in the sense that regardless of WHAT their reasons are for booking, they happily donate my hourly to ensure a wonderful experience.

tboy said:
For the record I would have partaken of many more sp's had I been able to meet and greet (like at a terb party) but didn't because unlike sp's, I don't make $250.00 an hour and to gamble my hard earned money on a possible, sorry, that's not for me. Call me low class, call me whatever you want but that's the facts jake (or is it jill?)
I also don't par take in the TERB parties after chauffeuring Jillian to a Christmas party when new in the industry, where I was made to feel no more then a common place streetwalker in a setting I felt was unclassy.

Since I am a professional, I arrive wearing appropriate evening wear amongst leather chaps and biker jackets. In regards to your "meet and greet" your mentality is ALSO the reason why I don't partake.

Although many take advantage of this type of gathering and find it useful, I choose not to put myself on display. Clients respect my discreetness when booking- knowing the only people who "know" are those who have seen me previously.

I don't need to meet clients this way and if I were to attend another party, it would be to socialize- FREELY with friends and clients of the industry rather then to hand out business cards, advertising myself.

I would go to have fun, NOT to work, even if that 'work' is just considered marketing. I don't need to "sell" myself... I feel it sells itself.

That is why I love going to Kiarra's parties... they are relaxed, with people who are like minded- not out for a sneak and peak.

tboy said:
To be blunt: I've tossed away enough cash on crappy sp's to no longer be a sucker and go into it blind and if I do book an unreviewed sp it will be from a reputable agency that I know will take care of me should I be displeased with the sp when we meet.
Your definitely in great company, especially if that reputable agency is Cupids.

However, I do know many other agencies who take care of their clients if they happen to be displeased with the SP when they meet.

tboy said:
Let me ask you indies a question: do YOU give the money back if the client declines your services after meeting you face to face? (or would you if it has never happened before).

Of course if a client showed up and within two minutes of meeting me, decided I was not for them, they would be encouraged to leave; with their pockets intact.

Or as an Outcall, I would gladly get in my car- AFTER accepting a cancellation fee and drive away with no hard feelings.


I believe the way I market myself and the time I invest with all clients, new and repeat PREVIOUS to any arranged date-has been the reason I've never been turned away at the door.

A perfect slogan, is PREVENT it before it occurs.
 

S.C. Joe

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Wow, makes you really want to spend $$$ to help the lady out.

Guess my thinking is I don't mind spending the cash if I feel the lady really does try to make me happy AND is grateful for the business.

Theres some knock out looking chicks I see out walking down the street once in awhile and they like have their nose stuck right up in the air. You can tell right by looking at them, they think few people are as good as them. Maybe so, but I can't stand those type of people.

Give me a plain looking chick who is warm, caring and would say thank you for a $5 tip.

But each to their own. If I was a high roller, maybe I would want a high roller lady.
 

Dodger

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Well said Frankie. I had the pleasure of yoru company and it never crossed my mind to want to see you ahead of time as so many of the reviews that were written about you were not only positive but GLOWING WITH PRAISE about how you were better than expected.

Now knowing that YMMV always applies with any lady, I personally discount the previous comments by other reviewers that I trust until I experience the lady first hand.

On the rare occasion that I have booked a lady without previous track records from others It has generally been through an agency that I trust the phone person and they have a sense for what I appreciate. Have I maybe been lucky up until now, sure and sooner or later the system will fail me at least once, but to date that hasn't happened.

As for the topic, I have never met a lady for a meet and greet yet specifically for the purpose of a date. I have gotten together with a few SP's for coffee, but generally it was for other purposes, either a friendly get together or for a comfort factor before shooting some photos for them.

One time on a trip to the east coast I was booking through an agency that I had not dealt with in past so I had no previous experience with either the phone person or the ladies. I booked a lady for an hour with the option to extend if I liked what they sent over. My expectation was to pay for the first hour regardless and to tolerate the time if necessary to get my monies worth at least. I was pleasantly surprised wit the lady that appeared and I did extend the session.
 

smylee52

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Francesca22 said:
Ok, tool boy... now that you've included me in this directly... here we go. (And yes big bold and beautiful)

Ma. What's a matta fo you . Make a nice a nice . Summa times you gotta letta go I catsi in this a world . You musta be Siciliana with that hot blood (LOL) .
 

El_Mariachi

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C'mon guys, paying for straight up sex I can understand. But paying for just getting a cup of coffee and chatting? Isn't that what we run away from with our significant others? Or for those who don't have an so, just date, meet a stranger and chat her up. Much cheaper I would say.
 

Meister

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In summation:
This is an unregulated business. SPs can do as they please, the client has no recourse or can demand anything, especially if you have a wifey sitting at home.
 

smylee52

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El_Mariachi said:
C'mon guys, paying for straight up sex I can understand. But paying for just getting a cup of coffee and chatting? Isn't that what we run away from with our significant others? Or for those who don't have an so, just date, meet a stranger and chat her up. Much cheaper I would say.
Obviously doesn't appeal to you but there are many men who pay for a woman's company and do not require sex .
They simply enjoy the attention of a beautiful woman . Not my cup of tea either but I can see how it works for them.
 

S.C. Joe

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smylee52 said:
Obviously doesn't appeal to you but there are many men who pay for a woman's company and do not require sex .
They simply enjoy the attention of a beautiful woman . Not my cup of tea either but I can see how it works for them.


WHAT ??....but you know, he might be right :eek:
 

Francesca22

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smylee52 said:
Francesca22 said:
Ok, tool boy... now that you've included me in this directly... here we go. (And yes big bold and beautiful)

Ma. What's a matta fo you . Make a nice a nice . Summa times you gotta letta go I catsi in this a world . You musta be Siciliana with that hot blood (LOL) .
It's an open forum...adressing a comment directed to me-filled with underlining comments in a distasteful regard deserves a charasmatic reply to reaffirm my position. I don't have anything against anyone who chooses to do a meet and greet, OR someone who reduces their rates catering to a specific niche of clientele.

BUT as anyone else is entitled to an opinon, so am I. Respectfully so. No hot blood here... but Siciliana indeed.

I call a spade for what it is and don't live in a delusionary bubble where I think for a moment my preferences are understood or shared by others.

But will say, there is an overwhelming appreciation for how I choose to conduct myself, with the people who share their time with me and happen to donate gracefully to share an experience we both put time and effort into. I believe you get what you put in and in return, people respect you more for commanding how you deserve to be treated and are happy to oblige.
 

danmand

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bbking said:
As usual dan, once again you over analyzing the comment and add no significant value.

My main point was that I saw little value in meet and greets regarding this industry - however people are free to conduct business in what ever manner they choose - I personally find it a waste of time and money.

bbk
Once again BBgun, lighten up.
 

bigdik

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Anderson said:
Comparing a free consultation by a lawyer to a coffee with a hooker to ''see if we connect'' or some equally idiotic statement deserves my comment.

It shows no respect towards lawyers !
And we should respect lawyers because?
In general I find more reason to respect "hookers".
Just my experience, but usually at least they kiss me before they screw me.;)
 

Anderson

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Very funny !

Seriously though, a lawyer usually does give a free consultation,its how biz is conducted,
Asking a hooker for a free consultation ( and for what ????) is a joke. It is disrespecting towards her time. It shows how much of a fucking cheap idiot you are . What are you expected to find out anyway ??? Some of these guys talking about ''clicking '' and a connection for Christsake ????

I respest these girls more than lawyers , I will agree with you there
 

smylee52

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Francesca22 said:
smylee52 said:
It's an open forum...adressing a comment directed to me-filled with underlining comments in a distasteful regard deserves a charasmatic reply to reaffirm my position. I don't have anything against anyone who chooses to do a meet and greet, OR someone who reduces their rates catering to a specific niche of clientele.

BUT as anyone else is entitled to an opinon, so am I. Respectfully so. No hot blood here... but Siciliana indeed.

I call a spade for what it is and don't live in a delusionary bubble where I think for a moment my preferences are understood or shared by others.

But will say, there is an overwhelming appreciation for how I choose to conduct myself, with the people who share their time with me and happen to donate gracefully to share an experience we both put time and effort into. I believe you get what you put in and in return, people respect you more for commanding how you deserve to be treated and are happy to oblige.

Just playing Bella. I wasn't expecting a serious and well thought out reply to my uncle Gino post . Ciao.
 
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JessiMae

Just thought I would add my two cents on the topic.

I do not offer this type of service, but do not have a problem with those who do. We all conduct ourselves in different ways.

For one I am fairly discreet about what I do. Obviously this is not my real name. The last thing I would want is to be meeting someone in public who calls me outloud by this name. I go out on dinner dates in public with clients, however this is a different situation. It is different because I have met them in private (we meet at the hotel room) and trust that they are serious guys. I find guys who want a "meet and greet" are not so serious and may just be taking advantage.

If you want to see me, it is really as simple as that.
 

S.C. Joe

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Its not being cheap, its checking them out.

Ex...I was chatting with an escort company owner about which young lady might be the best pick for me...not in Toronto...Well she never came out and said any names. Just that most young ladies in the town think they are "hot stuff" and all they need to do is show up in the guy's room and he be happy.

Now she decide she might as well become an escort too, guess she was at one time. She posted a few pictures of herself and they look great, she claimed she was under 40. Well I ask if she like to share a nice meal with me at a fancy place and I pay for it, she agreed. She knew I liked under 30 year olds and knew I had a pre planed date for later that night.

She look to me like she was 50 years old :rolleyes: Her pictures must have been touched up. We had a nice meal, she seem like a nice lady but did not turn me on at all. I did bring up her young ladies again and she claimed again how much better in bed she would be.

Maybe so but I did not find out.
 

smylee52

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S.C. Joe said:
Its not being cheap, its checking them out.

Ex...I was chatting with an escort company owner about which young lady might be the best pick for me...not in Toronto...Well she never came out and said any names. Just that most young ladies in the town think they are "hot stuff" and all they need to do is show up in the guy's room and he be happy.

Now she decide she might as well become an escort too, guess she was at one time. She posted a few pictures of herself and they look great, she claimed she was under 40. Well I ask if she like to share a nice meal with me at a fancy place and I pay for it, she agreed. She knew I liked under 30 year olds and knew I had a pre planed date for later that night.

She look to me like she was 50 years old :rolleyes: Her pictures must have been touched up. We had a nice meal, she seem like a nice lady but did not turn me on at all. I did bring up her young ladies again and she claimed again how much better in bed she would be.

Maybe so but I did not find out.
Best reason for meat and greek I mean meet and greet is to eliminate unwelcome surprise at the door . Then it becomes shudder and run .
 
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