Social dates - escort familiarisation

[tboy]

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Thanks for your reply. Your right, I am not disputing that fact. I do things off the clock too. Preparation, travel, stopping to pick up something that will be needed for the appointment, going over the scheduled time, etc.
I choose to have a rate so it can be seen as business and thought of as an appointment. Someone mentioned some guys make appointments and dont show. It happens, trust me.
If they do that for the meet and greet at least I can grab a coffee, relax and still take my calls. Its not a total waste. They just wont be able to make an appointment in the future.

Sorry, but those things you say you do to "prep" for an appointment off the clock compares to an employee having a shower, shaving, buying clothes, a briefcase etc.....

I may be alone in this but I feel it is a tad on the money grubbing side to charge for meeting a potential customer.

I don't dispute that there are many cancellations but that is something you have to deal with in any business.

I will say one final word on this subject (this time lol): I'm a carpenter/cabinet maker: If I were to charge my potential customers for my time to meet with them on a potential contract I would have no work ever...because they would see it for what it is......

 

[danmand]

I have to disagree with you here. You can not compare an interview to a dinner date/coffee date/whatever between a potential client and SP. If I meet a client for dinner, I am not applying for a job, I already have a job (and a very successful one at that, thank you).
What a client is paying for is TIME. It is the CLIENT'S CHOICE to simply meet for coffee or dinner first. Most clients don't go this route and simply book regular appointments. How do they know if we will "click"? They don't! However, they have many resources available to them if they take the time to do their research first (i.e. my website, reviews, PM'ing other hobbyists).
If you don't want to take the risk that we MIGHT not "click", don't book me. Simple.

Diana
xoxo

I would only add to that analysis, that clients better not expect anything
else than a short time sexual satisfaction from a booking with an SP.
If expectations are different from that, lots of potential problems may arise.

If a client want a sugar daddy relationship, that is different.

 

[tboy]

I have to disagree with you here. You can not compare an interview to a dinner date/coffee date/whatever between a potential client and SP. If I meet a client for dinner, I am not applying for a job, I already have a job (and a very successful one at that, thank you).
What a client is paying for is TIME. It is the CLIENT'S CHOICE to simply meet for coffee or dinner first. Most clients don't go this route and simply book regular appointments. How do they know if we will "click"? They don't! However, they have many resources available to them if they take the time to do their research first (i.e. my website, reviews, PM'ing other hobbyists).
If you don't want to take the risk that we MIGHT not "click", don't book me. Simple.

Diana
xoxo

Sorry, you ARE going for an interview for a potential "job" aka new customer.......

Your arguements present no new evidence to differentiate your profession from any other "time for money" profession. I mean, hell, even lawyers will often give the first hour free type thing to potential clients (and they're the biggest money grubbers on the planet lol).

As for not booking not clicking, that's the point exactly, We have to pay to determine if you will or could become a potential service provider. In every other industry on the planet, it's the other way around...

SHIT I promised I wouldn't post any more...damn my bad lol

BTW: if an sp experiences a slow down or reduction in new clients, this attitude might be the reason...ya think????

 

[tboy]

Hey, this is an "out of this world/leave you seeing stars/feeling like you're in heaven" kind of industry....what can I say?

Diana
xoxo

LOL hey, I've had that same reaction when I've finished installing some new kitchens! lol

(but seriously though, I did have one customrer tear up when I finished her project)

But for the record: I do free stuff for potential customers all the time and it pays off: I did a quicky $20.00 job for someone once and they hired me to do a $25,000.00 job see? it works......

 

[Never Compromised]

Why not just show up at the Christmas Party and get to know each other?

 

[smylee52]

Sorry, you ARE going for an interview for a potential "job" aka new customer.......

Your arguements present no new evidence to differentiate your profession from any other "time for money" profession. I mean, hell, even lawyers will often give the first hour free type thing to potential clients (and they're the biggest money grubbers on the planet lol).

As for not booking not clicking, that's the point exactly, We have to pay to determine if you will or could become a potential service provider. In every other industry on the planet, it's the other way around...

SHIT I promised I wouldn't post any more...damn my bad lol

BTW: if an sp experiences a slow down or reduction in new clients, this attitude might be the reason...ya think????

Nothing like a regular interview unless your prospective employer is concerned about the fullness of your lips , the colour of your eyes , the size of your tata's , the shape of your ass etc.etc etc. . How much free time would an SP have if she published "meet me for free " .
The client is concerned about clicking . The SP will provide a service whether you click or not . Some may choose to meet for free on occasions for whatever reason but to make it a policy wouldn't make economic sense. Don't forget regardless of where you meet you are only paying them for their time .

As for no one else charging just to meet them doctors have been doing this for years .

 

[tboy]

Nothing like a regular interview unless your prospective employer is concerned about the fullness of your lips , the colour of your eyes , the size of your tata's , the shape of your ass etc.etc etc. . How much free time would an SP have if she published "meet me for free " .
The client is concerned about clicking . The SP will provide a service whether you click or not . Some may choose to meet for free on occasions for whatever reason but to make it a policy wouldn't make economic sense. Don't forget regardless of where you meet you are only paying them for their time .

As for no one else charging just to meet them doctors have been doing this for years .

Meeting for different criteria but the act is the same: while an employer may be looking at appearance, they are looking at your skills, and personality to see if you will be a good fit for the ahem..position lol

 

[Anderson]

For Godsake,

Who would want to meet for a coffee first before spending an hour with someone.

Maybe you should meet for a minute , to see if you want to meet for the coffee first???

 

[tboy]

For Godsake,

Who would want to meet for a coffee first before spending an hour with someone.

Maybe you should meet for a minute , to see if you want to meet for the coffee first???

Dude, there's more to it than that!

Some don't just book for an hour, some book for hourS and at 240 +/- per hour, don't you do a little research before spending that kind of money?

To some of us, who we put our dick into is important. Some, don't give a rat's ass as long as it's warm.....

Different strokes for different folks.......

 

[Meister]

LOL hey, I've had that same reaction when I've finished installing some new kitchens! lol

(but seriously though, I did have one customrer tear up when I finished her project)

But for the record: I do free stuff for potential customers all the time and it pays off: I did a quicky $20.00 job for someone once and they hired me to do a $25,000.00 job see? it works......

Can you spot me some pipe dope? Is that the same as plumber's putty? I gotta install a sink tonight, seriously. But, I don't have a 25000000 dollar project.

 

[Anderson]

Dude, there's more to it than that!

Some don't just book for an hour, some book for hourS and at 240 +/- per hour, don't you do a little research before spending that kind of money?

To some of us, who we put our dick into is important. Some, don't give a rat's ass as long as it's warm.....

Different strokes for different folks.......

But thats the point !

What can you get from someone while she sips a triple triple anyway vis a vis ''who you put your dick into '' as you write ?

You take your shot for an hour and if it is great or not great then you move on and book again, rather than not book again.

How would any of these guys buy a house ? Live there for a year before putting an offer in ?

 

[Francesca22]

Wow!!!!!!!!! What a thread.

For my couple of cents...

I myself do not partake in the "Meet and greet" without expecting my hourly/multi-hour donation which I easily attain.

I have never had a client even suggest such an idea...

Any client has happily obliged and understood when booking, there is an expectation of tribute and have never done or suggested otherwise.

I will say however, whether we go out for dinner, to the theater or spend quality time at the hotel- they definitely get their "money" worth and don't look at it as a money transaction but rather an experience we create together.

I personally think it sets the wrong tone if your tangible on that level OR even having it suggested by the client.

Now, I will say- especially for my monthly allotments... I will meet happily with my 'lover' without expecting anything more then he already gives me, or consider "clock watching". But then again, I can always anticipate an upscale, tasteful surrounding and enjoy myself as much as he does. So, I guess it really depends on each personal preference.

I've come to learn from my own experience, when a distinguished gentleman is booking you- an array of different reasons lead him to that choice... but he respects "me" enough to compensate for my time- regardless if he wishes to indulge or take things slow.

Each person is different in aspects sometimes I don't even understand... however, I think if your good to someone- they will always come back and in turn, you create a good rapore and long term relations;on whatever level you determine. It doesn't come down to the money (especially for people who aren't penny pincher's and can afford to spoil themselves) but is about how they feel when around you, and how well you take care of their needs (whatever they may be).

I see both sides of this, whether I agree or not... and feel perhaps a small percentage may fall in the cracks not offering this service, or opportunity. To me, I would rather spend my time with someone who KNOWS and is certain he wants to see me, then convience someone who isn't. Hard sells are just that and honestly not worth my time because the experience will be equally dissapointing for both of us.

 

[Caciatore]

Interesting post Francesca. It reminds me of a time I was a regular hobbyist and had a pretty good rapore with special SP. This happened about 26 years ago before cell phones internet and all our gadgets that we have today. I booked an appt. with my special girl for a friday night. Unfortunately I was working the night shift ended up being exhausted and fell asleep at home. I never woke up till the next day. The next time I phoned her she rightfully blasted me for not calling her to call off the appt. Unfortunately at that time I got discouraged with her reaction to my no show and never called her again.
I wish I could have taken it all back because when you have a special relationship with someone it is worth keeping what ever the price (emotionally/financially/physically). People can be replaced but personality and chemistry cannot.

 

[Cloe]

hmmm

Tboy, you wanna debate the hell out this? LOL!
I offer many services. Meet and Greet is one of them. I offer it because some clients want it. I have made a couple good connections from it. It is not mandatory for me to offer the service, nor is it mandatory for clients to use the service. Isnt choice great?!

 

[tboy]

Like al pacino said: I wanted out, and they dragged me back in!!!!

No I don't want to debate this, ever again (but like a bad smell, it keeps coming back lol).

Choice? choice to either pay for a meet and greet or see an sp blind? what choice is that? NONE frankly because Luv4lust is the only one that does meet and greets at N/C.

Now if every sp indy or agency said: pay me after 15 minutes, if in that first 15 you feel we shouldn't proceed, then I will leave.....but we ALL know that 99.9% of sp's get the money upfront and if you're not happy or you feel you don't get along enough to continue you (the client) are SOL.

The problem as I see it is if you don't get along, just TRY and get your money back.....lol yeah right...two times with agency sp's they were SO not into it etc that I sent them away after about 20 minutes and both times I was basically told to "get stuffed". Had I met the ladies beforehand I wouldn't have had to throw away that $500.00. Don't know about anyone else but $500.00 is a fuck of a lot of money to be throwing away.....

And francesca: that may be fine and good for repeat customers because then the topic never arises whether they click with you or not, well, if they are brain dead and don't click with you and keep coming back that's their problem.

I'm talking about meeting potential new clients etc and if you're so busy you don't want new ones, then more power to you.

For the record I would have partaken of many more sp's had I been able to meet and greet (like at a terb party) but didn't because unlike sp's, I don't make $250.00 an hour and to gamble my hard earned money on a possible, sorry, that's not for me. Call me low class, call me whatever you want but that's the facts jake (or is it jill?)

To be blunt: I've tossed away enough cash on crappy sp's to no longer be a sucker and go into it blind and if I do book an unreviewed sp it will be from a reputable agency that I know will take care of me should I be displeased with the sp when we meet.

Let me ask you indies a question: do YOU give the money back if the client declines your services after meeting you face to face? (or would you if it has never happened before).

 

[Dani]

(but seriously though, I did have one customrer tear up when I finished her )

Sorry sometimes I cannot help myself. I have the same reaction also


excuse the artistic licence in the editing here lol

 

[Cloe]

Let me ask you indies a question: do YOU give the money back if the client declines your services after meeting you face to face? (or would you if it has never happened before).

I am an Indie and if after we have talked, he viewed pics, and we made the appointment and I got to the location and he said I am sorry, but I changed my mind or you are not what I was looking for and no money exchanged hands, then I turn on my heels and I am out. I WANT an enjoyable experience too so if he is not feeling me...no problem. I take that lose.
If we get cozy, fee is made and after 20 minutes he says he cant go on with it, then fine. I will give back half the funds and leave.
If you start a contracted job and they change thier minds, what happens? You would get compensated for your time to that point. Same thing.
Hope that doesnt get you going!
LOL!

 

[S.C. Joe]

Hey, I am with T-Boy on this one.

As for me, I have no problems with paying the full rate for F/S in my hotel room.

But sharing a meal with me--where I am paying the bill for both of us--is not the same thing as F/S in a hotel room. It should not cost as much, not even close.

Gald I am not one of those who "needs" to get to know somebody before I can enjoy them and don't mind eatting alone

 

[Cloe]

Last post (I think!) LOL!

Hey, I am with T-Boy on this one.

As for me, I have no problems with paying the full rate for F/S in my hotel room.

But sharing a meal with me--where I am paying the bill for both of us--is not the same thing as F/S in a hotel room. It should not cost as much, not even close.

Gald I am not one of those who "needs" to get to know somebody before I can enjoy them and don't mind eatting alone

S.C. Joe, no one should have a problem with that.
I am not talking about sharing a meal. I am talking about a short meeting. Half hr to an hr and it is MUCH less than the FS rate. I pay for my own coffee...heck, I will pay for his! LOL!
Not many people need that service. But its a good service for those who WANT it. I also chat to potential clients on Yahoo (free! lol) till they are comfortable to meet. Sometimes they never are, but its ok. When I have time and I'm online and they wanna chat for a bit, we do that.
Different strokes for different folks. Some need comfort or connection first, others don't. I'm open to each type.

 

[tboy]

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mm mmmm mmmmmm!

(promised I wouldn't post anymore lol)