Suicide?

[wet_suit_one]

Why or why not?

Discuss.

I'll start

Why: It put an end to it all. All the good, all the bad, everything. It is possible that a long dreamless sleep begins that never ends. Peace and quiet forever (rather like before you were born).

Why not: It hurts those who remain. You may fuck it up and end up in more misery till the end of your natural life. Some supernatural power may disapprove of your choice.

 

[afterhours]

Why or why not?

Discuss.

I'll start

Why: It put an end to it all. All the good, all the bad, everything. It is possible that a long dreamless sleep begins that never ends. Peace and quiet forever (rather like before you were born).

Why not: It hurts those who remain. You may fuck it up and end up in more misery till the end of your natural life. Some supernatural power may disapprove of your choice.

don't fuck it up, rent a porsche, find a picturesque cliff and away you go

 

[fuji]

Seek help immediately. I am not joking. Just seek help. Please.

 

[5hummer]

The world ends Dec 21, 2012, so just party like it's 1999 ... or, go get some help (i.e. therapy)

 

[Riotman]

No beer....forever...

Think about that....

 

[Moraff]

Why: It put an end to it all. All the good, all the bad, everything. It is possible that a long dreamless sleep begins that never ends. Peace and quiet forever (rather like before you were born).

You do not know this. For all you know you may end up in front of a designer who objects to your cutting short his/her design who will then reincarnate you as a bug in a boiler factory.

 

[Brandon123]

This is a stupid thread, there is no positive in suicide unless you were on the 80th floor of the twin towers during 9/11.

 

[fuji]

Your outlook on life can change based on your attitude, and you're attitude can be artificially or inappropriately negative. The life that seems awful today may seem pretty good tomorrow. It may be chemical. It may be stress. It may be a healthy but temporary reaction to misfortune.

Seek help.

 

[Brill]

I see a case for it if you have a terminal illness, it could be merciful to be put to sleep.

Consider the people who will see your body first and the impact on them. Consider people who love you.

Most of all, don't make me late for work.

 

[luvzgirlz]

I can see a case for it, especially in those who are very sick and will never get better and have nothing to look forward to besides wasting away. There's nothing dignified about laying up in a hospital bed with machines doing everything for you, possibly not even aware of your own existence. But that's more a case for euthanasia than suicide.

 

[chris123]

As someone once said: "A long term solution for a short term problem."

 

[Cobster]

Why or why not?

Discuss.

I'll start

Why: It put an end to it all. All the good, all the bad, everything. It is possible that a long dreamless sleep begins that never ends. Peace and quiet forever (rather like before you were born).

Why not: It hurts those who remain. You may fuck it up and end up in more misery till the end of your natural life. Some supernatural power may disapprove of your choice.

You summed it up pretty well. The ending up in more misery bit is scary though, that would absolutely suck.

However, one thing I NEVER understood is, if someone wants to take their life, why does the government or society as a whole try to prevent it?
ie - Kevorkian, I liked what the guy was doing and thought it was justifiable.

Regardless, if someone wants to kill themselves and the anyone intervenes saying they're selfish, they're the ones that are selfish, let the person do whatever they want themselves or their life.

 

[314159]

This is a stupid thread, there is no positive in suicide unless you were on the 80th floor of the twin towers during 9/11.

The thread is not stupid Brandon. For myself, the last two attempts this year were an attempt to release pain, emotional and spiritual and physical pain. Even with help from psychitrists and counsellors, there are some that due to in imbalance cannot cope. We get classified as bipolar, bordeline, schizo, which some people think is a good start to be catagorized, but the true help we need really isnt there. Doctors talk us thru, get us meds, but no one yet knows how to stop the urge to commit suicide. As much as the act is hurtful it is also a release. Some days id rather take my chances in the unknown than stay here. Just my opinion.

 

[irlandais9000]

Why or why not?

Discuss.

I'll start

Why: It put an end to it all. All the good, all the bad, everything. It is possible that a long dreamless sleep begins that never ends. Peace and quiet forever (rather like before you were born).

Why not: It hurts those who remain. You may fuck it up and end up in more misery till the end of your natural life. Some supernatural power may disapprove of your choice.

I will echo Fuji's excellent advice. Please, do seek help. For some people, counseling helps. For many, medications are necessary. Often it is a combination. Please, do not do anything rash, for most people do indeed recover from suicidal ideation, and years down the road find it hard to comprehend where they were at. Call a crisis hotline, or whatever you need to do, but just make that call and protect yourself.

 

[irlandais9000]

The thread is not stupid Brandon. For myself, the last two attempts this year were an attempt to release pain, emotional and spiritual and physical pain. Even with help from psychitrists and counsellors, there are some that due to in imbalance cannot cope. We get classified as bipolar, bordeline, schizo, which some people think is a good start to be catagorized, but the true help we need really isnt there. Doctors talk us thru, get us meds, but no one yet knows how to stop the urge to commit suicide. As much as the act is hurtful it is also a release. Some days id rather take my chances in the unknown than stay here. Just my opinion.

It is indeed true that there are some chemical imbalances in the brain that are much harder to treat than others. I don't know how many medications you have been on, but please give them a chance. With some illnesses, it can take time to find the most effective medication combination. I wish you the best, and urge you to also call a crisis line if you feel the urge to harm yourself.

 

[Brandon123]

The thread is not stupid Brandon. For myself, the last two attempts this year were an attempt to release pain, emotional and spiritual and physical pain. Even with help from psychitrists and counsellors, there are some that due to in imbalance cannot cope. We get classified as bipolar, bordeline, schizo, which some people think is a good start to be catagorized, but the true help we need really isnt there. Doctors talk us thru, get us meds, but no one yet knows how to stop the urge to commit suicide. As much as the act is hurtful it is also a release. Some days id rather take my chances in the unknown than stay here. Just my opinion.

If you ever feel like taking your life then you should admit yourself to a hospital, there is always light at the end of the tunnel.

 

[whitewaterguy]

If you ever feel like taking your life then you should admit yourself to a hospital, there is always light at the end of the tunnel.

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It's not for us to judge what is best for others, even though we have politicians, the state, doctors, the clergy and the rest of the world trying to convince us otherwise.

I certainly want to have the dignity and right to call it quits when i am ready to do so, and i will, barring any unforseen accident by way of a motorcycle, horse, whitewater kayaking, or heli-skiing, when that day comes. Spare me the obscenities of your moralizing, and need to see the world through your middle class lens. This is not about you, the family, nor friends, its about what i feel is best for me.

And i gotta tell, i see a lot of folks in dire straits who never see a light at the end of the tunnel. Even on their death beds, lying in their own urine and feces, with no family around, and no nurse or doctor or social worker to hold their hands on their final journey, they end up alone. There ain't no saviour, no god, no hollywood ending for a lot of down and out humans so i am not quite sure what bright light and what tunnel you might be talking about.

 

[sleazure]

Suicidal thoughts and behaviour are usually a symptom of treatable depression.

It's a tragic waste for someone who is not in his right mind to make such a final decision when a few months on happy pills is all it takes to make everything seem better.

 

[Petzel]

If you ever feel like taking your life then you should admit yourself to a hospital, there is always light at the end of the tunnel.

Oh yea? I had a relative do that. He was refused at Mount Sinai due to no beds available and was sent to North Western, the one on Keele Street. Was told no admittance for the same reason. My nephew was sent to various hospitals all to no avail. He felt worse than before! Since the health care cutbacks there are not enough adequate facilities to care for people with mental illness.

 

[rhuarc29]

As someone once said: "A long term solution for a short term problem."

Well put. This applies to too many suicides.