Suicide?
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Wow, you're really bringing out the big guns on this one, aren't you? I'd guess you've got something else on your mind, though nothing seems obvious.With all your posts in this thread, you strike me as someone who enjoys looking at this stuff. A voyeur of sorts, I wonder what other weird crap you look on the internetz.
Sorry, to disappoint you, little buddy, but this stuff came fresh from Google. I figure that the reality might be educational for any silly twit who thinks suicide is glamorous.
I had one close family member sign a DNR and refuse meds a few years back. A friend of the family did the same thing recently. A college buddy pulled the plug over Xmas while I was in school. A good friend's sister did it. Quite a few of my lowlife (and not so low) drinking buddies have done the same. (Edit: oh, I left out the kids in grade school and high school whose parents killed themselves. One of them discovered his father in the garage when he was about 15).
Perhaps suicide should be a right, but it's a decision which should be reserved for people who actually know what they are doing, and who are in a position to consider it rationally.
and remember, if you choose poison, your organs will be too toxic to transplant
Hmmmm.... That last line seems like a cop out of sorts. Not very like you fuji. Where's that unreasonable hill to die on.Except possibly in the case of people with extremely painful terminal illness, there is no rational analysis that dying is better than living. There are rational analyses that you need to change something in your life, but life is all we get, and we don't get much of it to live. People who commit suicide for "emotional" reasons may be unhappy with their lives, but there are many solutions to that, and as I said, your outlook tends to be the result of tricks of "attitude". Depending on where that attitude is coming from, time can change it, chemicals can change it, or confronting an issue can change it.
The human mind is a funny thing. How you see things really depends on the perspective you bring to the question, and the perspective can be based on many random things--things that can change, or be changed.
Seek help. If you want rational and objective analysis, go over it with a mental health professional.
True, life is all we get. Is it worth as much as we think it is? I have long wondered about this.
Just thought I'd say sleazy, them's some good video bits.
The carnage is refreshing!
Thanks for that!
The carnage is refreshing!
Thanks for that!
Parents do end up being a hostage to fate. It's part of the deal and it would be real shitty to have your kids go that way. My mother and I have often discussed it.That's a good enough reason to delay killing yourself.
I can't imagine many things worse in life than having your child die.
Meh...Think about this:
What is the harshest, cruelest thing you have witnessed in your life?
The death of a child? The suffering and decay of a parent? The rape of a sister or daughter?
Everyone has a list.
If you can survive with this history and go forward, you're past halfway there.
It isn't easy but keep going.
Don't forget: there is a person out there who has it worse than you and that person is dealing with it.
So can you.
Don, usually you're persuasive, but this ain't doing it. BTW, consider my original points and address those.
Your first line is a sound argument. While I have thought this before and given the argument significant weight, I figure why not die all the same? It is not necessarily a sufficient argument to remain living and it's one's own life isn't it? Why not destroy it? We destroy all kinds of other things without a thought or care. Why not one's own life.Death is an inevitability which comes to us all anyway. Why eliminate all the options that life has to offer by choosing premature death?
The only reason I see as logical and acceptable for suicide is when one's physical prognosis is imminently terminal and irreversible, all recourse exhausted,
with only increased suffering left to come. Mental duress can be treated, options can manifest, time can heal, no matter how bleak things may seem.
Surely, stupid is as stupid does, but stupidity has its place in the world. Why not this stupidity?
Interesting day at work. I wouldn't die that way. Too much involvement of other people.
More like jumping off a high bridge, in the middle of the night during winter. Yeah, someone will find a corpse, maybe the next day, may in spring, but no one should be too traumatized by the actual act of suicide.
Also, if you want better vids, check out www.bestgore.com . Some truly horrific shit there. Wowsers!
Since she's prepared, I say it's all systems go!Parents do end up being a hostage to fate. It's part of the deal and it would be real shitty to have your kids go that way. My mother and I have often discussed it.
The last line is not a cop out. This is serious business. Just like you should not get your legal or medical advice on terb you should not get your mental health advice on terb.Hmmmm.... That last line seems like a cop out of sorts. Not very like you fuji. Where's that unreasonable hill to die on.
See a professional.
Yeah, well, it ain't necessarily about feeling sorry for oneself. While I'm grateful for what I've got, I'm just tired of this shit. Tired, tired, tired. Fuck it. I don't have to live. I've had it good. Fuck the rest of it. I've had enough and done enough to satisfy myself and my desires. Why go on? Anyone that I may help, well there's 7 billion other people to ask, so ask them. I've done my piece and I'm tired of this shit.Bingo. When ever I get caught up feeling sorry for myself, usually within minutes I observe someone who seems to have been dealt a very bad hand.
Yet there they are, coping, living. It puts my self indulgence in perspective very quickly. Look around. There are so many things to be grateful for.
As well, your point does not address those with altered brain chemistry. It ain't necessarily so simple as being "caught up feeling sorry for [oneself]." When one has lived decades with suicidal thoughts (see posts above), there's clearly a bit more than being "caught up feeling sorry for myself." Be glad that that was not your fate, but others bear that burden. Respect it.
Advice duly noted.Like somebody else said, rent a porsche. But don't stop there. Get in as much debt as possible, run up your credit cards buying pussy and vacations. When everything is tapped out, that's when you pull the trigger and end it all. Go out in a blaze of glory.
What are you suggesting? He does have options. One of which is the topic of disussion here. Why or why not?You need more then help. Just my opinion
Glamourous... Hmmm.... I suppose some twits do think that. Cool vid btw. It was most interesting.Wow, you're really bringing out the big guns on this one, aren't you? I'd guess you've got something else on your mind, though nothing seems obvious.
Sorry, to disappoint you, little buddy, but this stuff came fresh from Google. I figure that the reality might be educational for any silly twit who thinks suicide is glamorous.
I had one close family member sign a DNR and refuse meds a few years back. A friend of the family did the same thing recently. A college buddy pulled the plug over Xmas while I was in school. A good friend's sister did it. Quite a few of my lowlife (and not so low) drinking buddies have done the same. (Edit: oh, I left out the kids in grade school and high school whose parents killed themselves. One of them discovered his father in the garage when he was about 15).
Perhaps suicide should be a right, but it's a decision which should be reserved for people who actually know what they are doing, and who are in a position to consider it rationally.
Rational consideration of suicide is what this thread is all about my friend. I thank you for your input.
First I laughed, because it was funny. Then I was mad as hell, because it's MY MOTHER YOU FUCKING FUCK! Then I realized it's just TERB and to be expected.Since she's prepared, I say it's all systems go!
Thanks for the laugh though. Good one. Now add something to the discussion please or STFU!!!!
Assclown!
Heh heh...
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Who says I'm looking for mental health advice? I'm looking for a rational discussion about suicide. See the original post. I'm still seeing a cop out fuji. Where's your argument?The last line is not a cop out. This is serious business. Just like you should not get your legal or medical advice on terb you should not get your mental health advice on terb.
See a professional.
Lest we forget, alcohol abuse and drug abuse are factors in a large proportion of suicides.
Depression and alcohol abuse are the two biggest factors.
Alcohol is a depressant, it's gonna make things worse. Not sure about weed. I think cocaine is dangerous that way, too.
Depression and alcohol abuse are the two biggest factors.
Alcohol is a depressant, it's gonna make things worse. Not sure about weed. I think cocaine is dangerous that way, too.
If you really want a rational analysis, the best person to ask is a mental health professional. No-one else has the experience, the theoretical knowledge, and the practical abilities to better answer that question for you, in the context of your life.Who says I'm looking for mental health advice? I'm looking for a rational discussion about suicide. See the original post. I'm still seeing a cop out fuji. Where's your argument?
yup. well said.when i was in a heavy depression for a lot of years with drugs it was my main thought, figured it would be the easiest way to stop hurting my family. so i tried a few times, not "cry for help" attempts either i never told anyone what i was planning, i just lived through what i did. the fact i couldn't do it gave me a reason to live and i dug deep and clawed my way back and kept fucking pushing and now i am back into a good place in life, got a good job, see my kids smiling as often as i can, got a great girl and about to have a huge house in the country. i look at back on that time as a learning experience and i am glad that the ways i tried didn't work because now i have a lot to live for that i would have missed out on.Your outlook on life can change based on your attitude, and you're attitude can be artificially or inappropriately negative. The life that seems awful today may seem pretty good tomorrow. It may be chemical. It may be stress. It may be a healthy but temporary reaction to misfortune.
Seek help.
sadly though i do think about killing myself from time to time, but that is only when i see that ceiling cat has responded to something i said lol.
fuji, fuji, fuji. I'm talking about generalities here. You think I'm gonna put my own life in the hands of TERBITES? I might be suicidal, but I'm not that fucking stupid. Not yet anyhow.If you really want a rational analysis, the best person to ask is a mental health professional. No-one else has the experience, the theoretical knowledge, and the practical abilities to better answer that question for you, in the context of your life.
Stick to the debate. Suicide, yay or nay, why or why not?
There have been a few decent points in here. You haven't provided a single one!
