I live in Niagara Region. A ton of farm land has plowed under here as well.
The Greenbelt
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It isva big problem with competing interests. There is a desperate shortage of housing so there is pressure to increase the supply of land. On the other hand disappearing farm land and environmentally sensitive land is a huge issue. Not really sure what the answer is but easing the red tape and fees on existing development land would help.
As would creating the desire, for people to find a place to live and work, somewhere other than the GTA. look no further than the rust belt. But unlike the US, how many alternatives are there? See the explosion in population and house prices in the gta, since 2012. When the gta, stuck their heads in the sand..
Kinda of glad I won’t be around to see the inevitable. And as far as “green champions” go, or “farmland is so important”..lol please…See that meme. It too is a truth bomb.
Depopulation Impacts
The social and economic impacts of depopulation in Newfoundland and Labrador.
The End of Rural Communities: Why Young People Leave
Research shows that young people prefer to remain in their rural communities if they have access to education and employment opportunities. It will take governments and the private sector to build resilient rural spaces that stop out-migration.
www.psychologytoday.com
Small towns left behind as exodus of youth to cities accelerates
More than 1m people aged under 25 depart while 2m over-65s move in
www.ft.com
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And, it started with the provincial liberals around 2004. Sandra pupatello had no time to speak with peach farmers who wanted to save their farms and trees to international interests that may have been promoted by the government of the day. Again, they are all corrupt.
Actually Manhattan is one of the greenest places in the US. Apartments with other apartments on each side, above and below, best sort of insulation. People, walk and take mass transit at very high levels and travel shorter distances, instead of taking the F150 compensation long distances to get anywhere.
This guy had a show on I think TVO about his "sustainable" home and blathering on about it.
He had to get a helicopter to fly in stuff to build the home with and later in the series they showed him jamming with his buddies in a band... all of who you know had to drive long distances to get there. Likewise to get anywhere he had to do the same. Sure he was surrounded by lots of greenery but in terms of pollution and resource use, it was the opposite of green. Although I suppose it doesn't count if the enviorment in other places gets wrecked for your lifestyle.
Of course I am talking about averages here. The Amish are no doubt green as fuck and there are some high end people in downtown areas [some of whom are publicly speaking ardent environmentalists who are total horror show to the environment.
I was much more green living in Downtown Hamilton as a carless scrub then living in Stephenville Newfoundland in similar situations.
And I’ll say it again. unlike the US, where there are numerous options for people to find work/live, economic centers. .From LA to Hollywood, Chicago, Las Vegas, NYC, Atlanta, Houston, the eastern seaboard, plus more.. I’m guessing you didn’t read any of those links? Never mind immigration.
Think NYC would look like that if it were the only option in the US??
Like I am going to read every bloody link.
Also you obviously didn't read or if you did, you didn't understand what I wrote so don't complain if I didn't read any of the links. Considering what you said does nothing to address what I said, I doubt reading the links would make things any better.
Also what in blazed did I say have anything about immigration.
I went back and your links based on what the links say have utterly nothing to do with my point that the greenest lifestyles are found in densely packed cities, not rural areas.
I did misunderstand, my bad. Because while I read yours, didn’t see what you quoted
With respect to the green meme and people in cities, telling people that live in rural Canada. is it fair you misunderstood the message? thought I saw a field and bales of hay, clear skies, not an off grid hermit?
Of coarse, cities have green spaces whether Central Park, or High park.. This thread is about them.There’s a world of difference. I can see stars at night, I hear crickets not sirens, I can smell the lilacs ( and manure
), not exhaust from vehicles, and so much more. And yet, people in the country, are being told to live greener…and how.
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The right to vote should be revoked for some.
Liberals carved up Greenbelt for developers 17 times
When the Liberals had a chance in government to protect the Greenbelt, they carved it up for developers 17 times rather than expand it. When it comes to the environment, the Liberals can’t be relied on to protect what matters.www.ontariondp.ca
There really should be some kind of test.Well all you tree huggers and liberals can calm down now.
Dougie cancelled the development on the greenbelt.
Premier Doug Ford announces reversal of Greenbelt land removals
Ontario Premier Doug Ford says he is reversing his plan to open the protected Greenbelt lands.torontosun.com
The greenbelt scandal is not about telling rural suburbanites like you how to live your lives.I did misunderstand, my bad. Because while I read yours, didn’t see what you quoted
With respect to the green meme and people in cities, telling people that live in rural Canada. is it fair you misunderstood the message? thought I saw a field and bales of hay, clear skies, not an off grid hermit?
Of coarse, cities have green spaces whether Central Park, or High park.. This thread is about them.There’s a world of difference. I can see stars at night, I hear crickets not sirens, I can smell the lilacs ( and manure
Its about protecting the 5% of Ontario that is good farmland.
If you want to live in some cookie cutter development just don't do it on the best farmland in the province.
So the solution is to cram everyone into small accommodations like New York and make it even more unaffordable than it is now? Ever look at the cost of an apartment in Manhattan?
Every leader can make a mistake when process is involved and then take corrective action. The real leaders are the ones who publicly acknowledge and actually do something about it...unlike our black-face boy who blames everyone else and never takes accountability.
This discussion is not about solution. That's a diversion. The discussion is about Ford having to reverse his decision. Why? Because of the corrupt way he went about it, the way his friends got preferential treatment, the way at least 4 people lost their jobs, the way he ignored advisors and experts, the way he steamrolled through the decision making, the way he outraged a huge portion of Ontarians and the way he outright lied and broke a promise.
HE AGREED/ADMITTED THAT HE MADE A BIG MISTAKE.
Tell us what you think about those things. Tell us what you think about how he handled it. He admitted that he fucked up.
Agree 100% and that is the crux of the problem. He did not follow the process. He set his own agenda at his pace.
Do you think that breaking promises is a procedural issue? No. It's a corruption issue. I believe that taking corrective action for being corrupt would entail resignation.
