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The long struggle over the meaning of "genocide"

Frankfooter

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Utter bullshit. Especially telling since you've repeatedly argued that Jews in the West bank can be assumed to be terrorists.

Of course you need to pull crap like that since you refuse to admit Hamas is a terror group.
That's very accurate to your posts.
You never say even children are innocent and that Israel is wrong to have killed 16,000 children.
With the Lancet posting a piece that says its likely Israel has killed more than 186,000, all you did was call for more.

When there is news of starvation, you call for more.
When the territory for civilians is bombed and gets smaller, you call for more.

 

Frankfooter

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Yet you continue to back all your groups demanding both sides "immediately and unconditionally" release their hostages and ceasefire.

And add in your past claims that unguided Palestinian rockets are not legitimate self defense despite what all your groups say. Add in your claims that simply being a Jew in the West Bank does not makes one a legitimate target despite all your groups saying settler terrrorism is state policy. And as shack pointed out, you still accept HRW's report about Hamas' and Isareli war crimes and the UN reports condemning Israel's crimes against humanity and genocide of minorities.
You continue to get my position wrong, so I had to again correct your post.
As long as you state what you think are my views and them intentionally wrong, this will happen.

You continue to demand more Palestinians be killed.
 

Frankfooter

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Reality is that the genocide continues and you continue to defend starving children, raping Palestinians to death and other acts as part of the genocide you promote.
 

Frankfooter

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And yet you still refuse to process what other people posted.
Wrong, read the posts.
Valcazar made one statement in the OP and refused to discuss it further.

Israeli policy is to starve children to death.
You continue to back this genocide through refusing to discuss the acts most humans would find evil and instead attack those who are against them.


 

Butler1000

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On that topic, I was recently reminded how Ralph Nader's campaign brought us W.

Also worth pointing out that him and his buddy are all for Americans lobbying about the Israeli Palestinian conflict but accuses pro-Israeli Americans of lobbying for a foreign government. Instead he goes with the old school anti-Jewish tropes about not being loyal and accusing them of assassinating JFK.
You are assuming that those votes would go to the Dems. If they wanted to vote for them they would. As likely they stay home, vote only down ballot, write someone in.

This is the worst attitude Dems have that they are entitled to votes.

Votes have to be earned.
 

Valcazar

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Now that the polls are turning more towards Harris you seem less upset and worried with uncommitted.
Uncommitted was never the major threat.
The people saying they won't vote or will actively work to make sure the Democrats lose are.

And obviously, the better the position for the Democrats overall, the less of a danger those people are.
It's still far too close for anyone to be complacent.

Is that why you're less interested in a discussion on the definition of genocide as well?
Not even sure what the logic you think you are using is here.
 

basketcase

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You are assuming that those votes would go to the Dems. ...
Yes, they are actively stating they are typically democratic voters who would rather Trump win because they irrationally think Dems pushing for a ceasefire is worse that Trump wanting Israel to just finish Gaza.
 
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basketcase

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That's very accurate to your posts.
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Deflection again. You have repeatedly claimed attacks on jewish civilians in the West Bank are legitimate because some other Jews are terrorists. At times you go so far as to say Jews can't be civilians in the West Bank despite what all your rights groups say.
 

basketcase

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You continue to get my position wrong, so I had to again correct your post.
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So faking quotes from people again and spamming tweets.

Why are you so afraid to admit that Hamas has violated the explicit demands from the UN, ICC, ICJ to release their hostages?
 

basketcase

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You have no business claiming you know what Palestinians want.
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Wow, the words of a racist elitist. You have repeatedly said Palestinians don't need to be involved in any peace discussions and don't care about Palestinian polls on what they want. It's pathetic that you don't want to listen to them just because you hate Jews and think non-white people are beneath you.

p.s. Interesting story on Palestinian poll results in Gaza if true.
 

Frankfooter

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Wow, the words of a racist elitist. You have repeatedly said Palestinians don't need to be involved in any peace discussions and don't care about Palestinian polls on what they want. It's pathetic that you don't want to listen to them just because you hate Jews and think non-white people are beneath you.
The ICJ ruled the occupation is illegal and Israel must return Palestine to Palestinians, along with paying restitution.
There is no negotiation, just Israel abiding the law and the court's decisions.

What next, you're going to argue that rapists get to negotiate their sentences with judges?

 

Butler1000

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Yes, they are actively stating they are typically democratic voters who would rather Trump win because they irrationally think Dems pushing for a ceasefire is worse that Trump wanting Israel to just finish Gaza.
How about, they realize the present Dem leadership is lying. Because they are. They can get a ceasefire anytime they want by withholding ammo. They choose not to.

And you are assuming they will vote GOP. No, they will stay home. It's the only protest they have.

Once again. Both parties have the same policy on the war. It's that simple.
 
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