The real Toronto

[Toke]

You do realize that just about anybody who is currently fit and unemployed can walk into ServiceOntario and get a free bus ticket to Alberta along with spending money? Ontario is more than happy to move deadbeats somewhere else just to make the local stats look better.

Why can't the place they currently live in offer the same opportunity? Or is this a regional version of ethnocentrism?

 

[OddSox]

Why can't the place they currently live in offer the same opportunity? Or is this a regional version of ethnocentrism?

Huh? Are you an idiot? Jobs move around. People do to. That's the way life works.

 

[OddSox]

Of course a job can be found, but what kind of job are we talking about? I'm all for 'doing what it takes' but when a certain peoples are relegated to work that disenables them to achieve 'a future' then I don't blame them for feeling/acting hopeless. I don't condone their actions (e.g. gangbanging or 'milking the system') but I can understand where they are coming from.

I grew up in a situation that could have led me down the road of hopelessness, but I steered away and have (and continue to) followed a path similar to the one you have proposed. However, I credit that to personal traits. I have not only grew up with individuals who have 'gone down the wrong path', but have continued to make a point of talking to young people who can be featured in 'Real Toronto II' to hear their side. You'd be surprised at the answers that I get when I ask them about thier future. While many have aspirations, you can see they sifle them with the realities they face.

Here's some sociolgy that may begin to explain:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre..._.28Field.29_and_the_Subjective_.28Habitus.29

Once again, complete an utter bullshit. Go out and get a job - it's not rocket science. Move if you have to, make some sacrifices - my parents did. I did. And my kids have.

If they can't deal with the "realities they face" then change the reality. And yes, all they have to do is hop on a bu,s or maybe even take a chance of some other sort.

 

[Toke]

Once again, complete an utter bullshit. Go out and get a job - it's not rocket science. Move if you have to, make some sacrifices - my parents did. I did. And my kids have.

If they can't deal with the "realities they face" then change the reality. And yes, all they have to do is hop on a bu,s or maybe even take a chance of some other sort.

Call it what you want, but scholarly research says otherwise.

 

[OddSox]

Call it what you want, but scholarly research says otherwise.

Again, they've never had to work for a living. Not really, not the way that means you need to put food on the table.

Tell me, what is so hard about moving west to get a job? Sure, there's friends - I've made new friends more than once in my lifetime, and it's not hard staying in touch with old ones. Sure, there's family - do what others do and send money home to support your kids. Hell, after you get established, bring them out to live with you.

Seriously, sociologists?

 

[The Fox]

So what’s new. They are not special. Its just an example of all poor neighborhoods across the globe. The smart get out and the dumb get left behind. All humans struggle for power whether it’s to get a corporate job or hussle in the hood. This will never change, no program will fix it. It’s their choice.