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They focused so much on the theory of everything but not on the solution to all of humanities issues such as social dynamics, geopolitical issues, ideologies, equality, human rights etc.

Reason being is because all of our ideologies are biased and flawed and deceive us think we know the truth, to believe our ideology has the solution, etc. However if it was the universal solution this will undermine the ones in power over countries, many people and their wealth which many will never give up. This will be resisted on all fronts because powerful people don’t want true equality even though they pretend they do because this will undermine their own position on this earth.

But for the fun of it and mental masterbation here is my idea of the universal solution or a path towards it.

Develop and refine a general AI like Googles Alpha Go Deep mind or whatever the latest program is called. Have it learn all the complex world games from first principles and become a master at all the top games of the world like go, chess and whatever else you can throw at it. Make sure it can always defeat the previous version of itself, and learns only by playing itself and all the possibilities and learns and refines and improves until it can’t anymore based on technological limitations. In theory this is possible. Also consider how much money is put into the large hadron collider and how much value did we get out of it?

Now program all the worlds ideologies and principles and have it study them all and apply them to all of our previous problems and current problems. Have it refine a universal system that can work for our guidance, values and principles. Have it refine what if scenario until almost infinity and measure how it impacts core universal values.

Now open it world wide on the decentralized internet for anyone to challenge and have it back it up why it agrees or doesn’t and how this is not it the universal best interest of the universal principles or humanity or whatever.

So you can have give it what you think are universal principles like consciousness, beings, love. For earth humanity, environment, and equality. Whatever it is it should be able to refine and figure out and tell you if it agrees with you or not or needs more time to compute. We should have the ability to challenge it and have it either refine or through logic and direct examples demonstrate to us how our ideology is flawed and create a model and record everything and how it hurts humanity, or consciousness and beings.

Now once this is refined run it in parallel to actual government decision and have it continuously record and evaluate all government decisions. Have it demonstrate with direct examples why and how the decisions hurt the equality or humanity or whatever the agreed upon principles are.

How? Well assuming we have a AI system use decentralized crypto technology to ensure nobody can destroy it and it lives on nodes throughout many computers world wide and in space and anyone can interact with it while it continuously builds models. Things like starlink can ensure it is always backed up.

Like I said this will probably never happen because it will threaten the ones in actual power by showing how equality and humanity can be protected and equal. Like we all believe our ideology is right and will backlash against any threat that undermines this either consciously, subconsciously or collectively with those two.

They had a show on this called travellers where a general AI sent people back in time to influence major events and what is in the best interest of humanity type of a deal and showed some of the things that could go wrong like factions, hacking the system, rouge agents and so forth. But this is based on fear and backlashing. In theory it should develop a system that has the solution to all of our well being. However some believe people need to suffer to learn and have the motivation and that flawed ideologies keep them in check. But these people are not the ones born in concentration camps, being brutally killed, or living in sewage pipes in the slums of some third world countries. At the end of the day we are all enablers to this and just bury our heads in sand like ostriches and pretend we know the way, we are good, and our ideology or tribe and supporting the ideals and each other in that tribe is what’s most important

But in principle if you are so confident your ideology is the way what’s to worry then right. If something with reasons and direct historical examples can demonstrate to you wouldn’t you want to be shown. Or are they right what they say about ideology that it’s just a glorified cult. We are not cave people anymore that need to rely on tribes to survive. I would think we would want to evolve past our primitive forms. Other people are well aware that their ideology is bullshit and will also resist it because by knowing their ideology they can use, manipulate and gain power over the ones in their tribe and outsiders because they understand the meta structure and people’s psychologies.

But regardless this is one of the solutions that could get past our egos and ideologies. Problem is people are not interested in actual solutions but supporting their own tribe at all costs.

if you have a better sustainable solution I would love to hear it. Back it up if you can and not say ohh Greta Thunberg wouldn’t approve. Like wtf is that.

Regardless if you like it or not this will become available a general AI available to all that challenges our deepest and core beliefs maybe put up by some billionaires or who ever to refuse and resist all this shit going on in the worlds especially how it’s getting worse every day and how many people keep dying unnecessarily of starvation, inequality, and oppression while we bicker at each other pretending we have all the solutions while in reality we do fuck all but stare at our phones whole day long and just troll the internet.


 
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AI is a different form of computing, it is not magic. You should be enrolled in hogwarts if you want to know about magic.
 
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First step is to admit all ideology is toxic...we know exactly how many people are capable or criticizing their own and can’t handle this truth. This is exactly what’s tearing up the states right now and not Trump or Biden and always had divided and created conf

This is only way to truly to be free and not echoe each other desperately seeking validation and meaning.

The only way to realize how flawed our ideology is with the help of genera AI.

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It’s easy to throw drivel and ridicule like a clown when you have nothing of value and substance to contribute.
 

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If it is a meme that can fit into a 1000x1000 jpeg then Rain will believe it.
 

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AI is a different form of computing, it is not magic. You should be enrolled in hogwarts if you want to know about magic.
...and what your golden boy Biden and toxic ideology and hero Greta Thunberg has the solution?

If you can program AI to learn and become the best go player you can program it to accomplish anything.

Just because in your boxed in mind this is not possible does not mean it’s not happening...
 

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...and what your golden boy Biden and toxic ideology and hero Greta Thunberg has the solution?

If you can program AI to learn and become the best go player you can program it to accomplish anything.

Just because in your boxed in mind this is not possible does not mean it’s not happening...
Go is a game, a game is not equal to reality.

Technological singularity is sci-fi man, it is not real man. In this reality, we are currently at 5nm in terms of the smallest feature we can etch into silicon, at 2nm that would be about 10 silicon atoms in width and it would be the end of Moore's Law. One more process shrink is all we have left, and that will probably happen in 2023. PlayStation 6 could be the last new PlayStation Sony ever makes.
 

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I do not know with what weapons WW III will be fought, WW IV will be fought with sticks and stones - Albert Einstein 1949.

All ideology is useless, it's only purpose is to grease the wheels to the ultimate reality - death. That was the core of Carl Sagan's book The Dragon's of Eden and the recurring theme of the first Cosmos.

 
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Kinda of like you take your life advice from your hero’s Greta and Biden ... okay there
You almost made a point until your clear biases completely decimated any form of critical thought. I'm not a Biden fan by any means, but I'll fight it through my vote and persuasion. Ease off the Kool Aid and please stop pretending to be associated with the right wing.
 

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You almost made a point until your clear biases completely decimated any form of critical thought. I'm not a Biden fan by any means, but I'll fight it through my vote and persuasion. Ease off the Kool Aid and please stop pretending to be associated with the right wing.
He is not a fake rightie that is left, he is a fake lefty that is right. If you ask him, he will say he is left and that is how you know he is not left.
 

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You almost made a point until your clear biases completely decimated any form of critical thought. I'm not a Biden fan by any means, but I'll fight it through my vote and persuasion. Ease off the Kool Aid and please stop pretending to be associated with the right wing.
It honestly doesn’t matter to me which side people think I am. I have nothing to prove to anyone. I will criticize both sides. When I take the political compass test it says I am left. Right now it is clear there is a stigma against the right so I naturally want to defend it. I think all political ideology is bullshit and all ideologies for that fact but I also think everyone should entitled to believe in whatever fantasy or idea they want as long as this does not impose on others or stigmatized others or cause violence against others due to their ideas. So you can say I am intolerant against intolerance.

That point was made against the poster because they used that line “Greta would be disappointed or what would Greta think” at one of these undermining troll attempts in the past they regularly do. Maybe at one point before Trump I supported Greta quite possible. The Biden point is that they let Biden get away with almost anything when a year back they were criticizing Trump for it. Double standards.

So a group of guys on terb go around trolling posts if they sense there is anything positive supporting trump or the right. Like they make a thread with thousands of posts and memes trying to ridicule the right but when you do it against them them ohh you are so this and that and feel so offended. Double standards. It’s either a group of guys or one guy with multiple accounts because you can pick up the similarities of the replies and how they alternate and try to attack, troll and undermine with different accounts. When you try to defend a persons right to a political party or leader you automatically get labeled as that. Like WTF is that what kind of primitive and tribal society do we live in. I decided to support trump supporters when I saw mods recklessly banning people from local Facebook groups when they said “anything” trump or had a trump shirt or comments or whatever. They would say things that they feel threatened and intimidated and these people are not welcome and just an automatic ban and nobody could defend. This is what originally caused me to start supporting them and when I saw this type of intolerance in family gatherings.

So if the terbs lefts wants to be intolerant against other ideologies, have double standards I want nothing to do with that. I’d rather be labeled right, because they have been showing more tolerance and intent for equality then the left have even thought they delude themselves to think that actually stand for these things. They are only tolerant to the ones who support their tribe and ideologies which is hypocrisy at it finest.

I am honestly starting to believe that they can’t see their intolerance, hypocrisy and double standards and actually believe they are being just and noble.

This is why I think we need AI to identity these hypocrisies, double standards, toxicities and inconsistencies so people can understand through logic, computations, iterations and models. Right now they think ohh we are so so tolerant, we stand for humanity, for equality when in reality they could be doing the exact opposite. I am open to that and open to the fact that my ideology could be toxic and hurting the same principles I stand for. I would rather have AI demonstrate this to me then people with clear biases, double standards and hypocrisy. Even with the AI people will still blindly follow their faith and ideology but this will create the first real attack on all ideology and create the path towards true freedom from these golden prisons we all get indoctrinated with.

Maybe it might take 100s of years maybe it will happen earlier but it is happening. In that Wikipedia link scientists predict that likely it will maybe around 2040 humanity achieves technological singularity. Meaning we are close. How about the billions of dollars, and the countless companies and countries investing in AI and improving computing technology, neural networks and quantum computers. What are we just going to ignore this and say ohhh this is all science fiction it can’t work. If we allowed these type of people to lead we would still be in medieval times having tribal wars and regressing progress.
 
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Rain, your primary issue is that you are insane, your political leanings are a distant secondary issue.
 

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Rain, your primary issue is that you are insane, your political leanings are a distant secondary issue.
Not fair and unnecessary.

Besides, he said up front this was "for the fun of it and mental masterbation".

There was no reason for anyone to treat this like a serious idea that could withstand scrutiny when he told you up front it was without any rigor.
 

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Not fair and unnecessary.

Besides, he said up front this was "for the fun of it and mental masterbation".

There was no reason for anyone to treat this like a serious idea that could withstand scrutiny when he told you up front it was without any rigor.
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