Toronto Star: Porter: Tales of horror from a police state — ours (G20 hearings)
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So if someone comes to rob your house but doesn't threaten you physically, you wouldn't call the cops?I have seen more people in support of my arguements then your cop boot licking attitude. Between you and Rock all I hear is "never happened to me so it can't be true....I have only met nice cops..." No there are some fantastic cops. But there are enough bad ones out there and enough troubling reports that I want nothing to do with them. I would even be extremely hesitant to report a crime if I saw one in case I get jammed up by one of the dickheads. I would only report a crime if someone is in jeapordy.
Please don't come up with bullshit scenarios... oh wait.. that's all you really do!!So if someone comes to rob your house but doesn't threaten you physically, you wouldn't call the cops?
You failed to answer the question, which is all you really do.Please don't come up with bullshit scenarios... oh wait.. that's all you really do!!
I hope that someday you recieve the care and therapy you need.
Did any of your black gear get dirty on that infamous Day?I have seen more people in support of my arguements then your cop boot licking attitude. Between you and Rock all I hear is "never happened to me so it can't be true....I have only met nice cops..." No there are some fantastic cops. But there are enough bad ones out there and enough troubling reports that I want nothing to do with them. I would even be extremely hesitant to report a crime if I saw one in case I get jammed up by one of the dickheads. I would only report a crime if someone is in jeapordy.
When are you leaving again?
Don't forget you sunscreen.
Of course you have. It's a known fact that you are who you hang around with. They're probably the only part of society that can spend time in your presence and feel comfortable around a brain fart like you.I have seen more people in support of my arguements then your cop boot licking attitude. Between you and Rock all I hear is "never happened to me so it can't be true....I have only met nice cops..." No there are some fantastic cops. But there are enough bad ones out there and enough troubling reports that I want nothing to do with them. I would even be extremely hesitant to report a crime if I saw one in case I get jammed up by one of the dickheads. I would only report a crime if someone is in jeapordy.
You've only worked long enough to get 75% of your CPP. You screwed that one as well
To be fair here, no-one should count on CPP for their retirement. Who knows if it will still even exist--I expect it will be so diluted and inflated and scaled back by the time that I retire that it will be good for buying ice cream on a hot summer sunday but not much else. I know they say they've fixed it, and it's actuarially sound now, but they've still got a couple more decades to fuck it right up before I retire.You've only worked long enough to get 75% of your CPP. You screwed that one as well
I think Catherine Porter did a good job with her article. Yes, the title of the article can be interpreted as a blanket accusation that Canada is a police state but it can also be seen in the context of the G20 inquiry she attended where witnesses gave first-hand accounts claiming that our police were indeed unaccountable and out of control on a number of occasions. The true test of police restraint and accountability is how they behave when they are assembled in great numbers and have almost unlimited powers of arrest. For those who were unjustly trapped, abused and detained in such appalling conditions, Canada was indeed a police state. That state of affairs was only temporary but if it happened once, it could happen again.
You can attempt to redefine what constitutes a police state by trotting out all sorts of examples where police in less advanced countries have behaved far worse but that doesn't change the fact that, if those witnesses are telling the truth, civil liberties and basic freedoms in Toronto were arbitrarily suppressed by the police, some of whom broke the very laws they were assigned to enforce. There will always be abuses. So we need to investigate these claims to make it clear that we won't tolerate this kind of police behaviour.
You can attempt to redefine what constitutes a police state by trotting out all sorts of examples where police in less advanced countries have behaved far worse but that doesn't change the fact that, if those witnesses are telling the truth, civil liberties and basic freedoms in Toronto were arbitrarily suppressed by the police, some of whom broke the very laws they were assigned to enforce. There will always be abuses. So we need to investigate these claims to make it clear that we won't tolerate this kind of police behaviour.
I will call my spaceship for help lol... man you are a twit....You failed to answer the question, which is all you really do.
I hope that someday you recieve the care and therapy you need.
Thats is what they told you....you don't say you've seen him around since... lol....Actually, the police called me back to say that the gentleman was piss drunk and they drove him down to the station to sober up. He was actually a panhandler who frequented our area at that time.
I do believe that SOME police officers over-reacted in SOME situations. However, all one has to do is to show the scenes of people burning police cars and smashing business windoes, and you have some justification for the police actions.She also published heresay as fact... thankfully our courts do not operate at the same level her column does. They give me the star for free, and quite frankly even that cost is too high. It is the worst paper I have seen in Canada.
The unfortunate reality (for most protesters and the public in general) is that a few bad apples spoil the barrel. I walked around the
downtown area many times during the G20 looking for trouble. I did not encounter anything like people are describing.
The Star; I don't know if it is the worst paper in Canada, but it does suck.
Overly dramatic might be claiming that the police acted like customs officials during the G20. To claim that it was like 1935 Germany is blatant stupidity and an insult to the people who lived during those times. Statements like that should really be questioned. That is why I wonder when they talk about journalistic integrity.She is being overly dramatic. This isn't 1935 Berlin. However, some cops did go overboard at the G20. Some cops deserve to be reprimanded, some fired. We can't permit the police to be able to abuse people with impunity, which I think is what Nottyboi means, to avoid becoming a police state.
Someone mentioned that the Gestapo was not that bad at first... Obviously that person was a German not a jew.
Here is another "anecdotal" incident for Rockie http://www.thestar.com/News/article/163813
Happened 10 years ago, cost 600K in lawsuit... was hate directed at a gay man... net impact to bigoted officers? NONE!!!! lol... They are still fully employed by the Toronto Gestapo and probably have been promoted to Stabsfeldwebel by now... Metro Police uber alles!!! lol
Happened 10 years ago, cost 600K in lawsuit... was hate directed at a gay man... net impact to bigoted officers? NONE!!!! lol... They are still fully employed by the Toronto Gestapo and probably have been promoted to Stabsfeldwebel by now... Metro Police uber alles!!! lol
Yes indeed I have been doing Canada a HUGE favor paying vast quantities of tax money so that dim witted layabouts can get paid 100K/year driving around and harrassing ordinary citizens.Oh, so you've been doing Canada a favour all this time. LOL
You say you've made vast quantities of cash and paid vast quantities of taxes for the government coffers, so vast that it will leave a vast hole and the government will mmiss it. Some might say you don't know how to manage you money very well if you paid that much to the government.Yes indeed I have been doing Canada a HUGE favor paying vast quantities of tax money so that dim witted layabouts can get paid 100K/year driving around and harrassing ordinary citizens.
Most of that salary taking them over the $100G's, last year approximately ~1300 officers, that you've such a hard on comes from overtime. I'm not a great fan of pay duty, especially the way it's run, but they are working over time for $60/70 an hour and being paid by private money so therefore none of your precious public funds or they're going to court as witnesses racking up the overtime. Does that hourly rate sound familiar; think auto worker, TTC and garbage collectors.
It's not a news source, it's a liberal propaganda rag.She also published heresay as fact... thankfully our courts do not operate at the same level her column does. They give me the star for free, and quite frankly even that cost is too high. It is the worst paper I have seen in Canada.
Why make us suffer for the other 6 months? Off to train with the Taliban?The first step is to inform ignoramouses like you... I actually don't plan to live in Canada except for about half the year.
It hurts my feelings when you call me names. Please stop it.I will call my spaceship for help lol... man you are a twit....
My problem with this is that it means they're working a lot of hours and that means that when they're at their REAL jobs they are not as alert or on the ball as they should be.I'm not a great fan of pay duty, especially the way it's run, but they are working over time for $60/70 an hour and being paid by private money so therefore none of your precious public funds or they're going to court as witnesses racking up the overtime.
There is really no good reason to have a full badge police officer standing around a construction site or an entertainment event. What's needed is some tier of "deputies" that have limited powers, like green hornets, but good enough to direct traffic or restrain out of control partiers until a full badge cop arrives.
The whole paid duty thing needs to end.
The reason is liability on city property and the city unions getting their way, taking care of your city brethren before contracting it out. Remember that bylaw that demands you/contractors to pay you non union workers 90% of a union worker wage, so you might as well spent the extra 10/20% and get the full package. It's also unfortunately got to the point that the officers expect the pay duty on a regular basis, no mystery. The over all accumulation isn't that large to really effect the ability of most officers to do their duty, considering some of the schedules they work already, although some members feel that don't do it now. So you can't fight it.My problem with this is that it means they're working a lot of hours and that means that when they're at their REAL jobs they are not as alert or on the ball as they should be.
There is really no good reason to have a full badge police officer standing around a construction site or an entertainment event. What's needed is some tier of "deputies" that have limited powers, like green hornets, but good enough to direct traffic or restrain out of control partiers until a full badge cop arrives.
The whole paid duty thing needs to end.
