Traffic Ticket Question

djk

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I've been told by a friend if you go to fight a ticket in court and if it's a minor offensive, as long as you're nice to the cop and if he's really doesn't take pride in his job, there's a very high chance he won't show up.

Any truth to this?

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Annessa

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Hi,


I had a friend go through this a few months ago for speeding.

He was doing 110 in a 60 'community safety zone' (It was the long weekend up north and he was trying to beat some of the traffic back to the city.)
He hoped the cop would not show up but he did. However, after speaking to him for a few minutes before the trail began the officer realized he was a good guy that made a bad judgement so he ended up lowering the charge to 'doing 60 in a 90 zone'

He could have lost his license for 6 months and a $5000.00 fine instead he lost 2 points and got a $500.00 fine.

Never speak to the cop like you were in the right or show any attitude. Wear a suit, a sincere look, and speak about yourself like a decent hard working person that made a terrible mistake.



Good Luck!
Annessa
 

djk

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My offense was failure to stop at a red light. I was making an advancing left and it was turning yellow when I went.

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My recent ticket experience was originally for $230+3 points, I went to speak to the prosecutor before trial. She lowered it to $80 no points. We then went in to see the judge and when I told him what happened he lowered it an additional $40...so I went to roomates with the money I saved!
 

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Smokey said:
My recent ticket experience was originally for $230+3 points, I went to speak to the prosecutor before trial. She lowered it to $80 no points. We then went in to see the judge and when I told him what happened he lowered it an additional $40...so I went to roomates with the money I saved!
You gotta stop smoking all the angel dust with Hector. Remember the time you ended up running down the street in your undies,while Hector was driving behind you with his high beams on? That was classic.
 

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Northred said:
This might be a dumb question, but I haven't had a speeding ticket in a while. If you get a $40 ticket (60km in a 50km zone) which I understand is no points... does this still reflect on your insurance?

No points equal no insurance problems.....
 

dogman

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No points equal no insurance problems.....
You may want to qualify that statement. A few no pointers and you have insurance hikes. But a couple in a few years is nothing to worry about.

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dogman said:
You may want to qualify that statement. A few no pointers and you have insurance hikes. But a couple in a few years is nothing to worry about.

Dogman

..as far as i know...when i called my insurance broker sal (he lives in his parent's basement)....he told me i will never get an insurance hike from a no point ticket....
 

djk

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Very interesting.

I think I saw the yellow and sped up. Just pondering what my defense will be, what damage control needs to be done and how I can polish things up. :0

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Running a red light...

Based on your story... proceeding through a yellow advance left signal you did not run a red light...

As I understand the definition of the offence, running a red light means your vehicle was entirely behind the white line when the light turned red...

If you are in the intersection and it goes red your okay. If you enter the intersection while the light was yellow you are okay. Also the cop had to witness the offence. So say you run a yellow and get in an accident. The cop can charge you with running a red, but since he didn't witness it, he can't swear information in court. Someone who actually saw you do it.

Get a copy of the statute you are charged with and read it thoroughly. You might be able to get it tossed all together. Speeding can get knocked down to a no points level, but running a red is different. Even if you pay less they still take the three points. So in that case, is it worth even going to court?

That being said, if you were in the left turn lane, and were like the fourth car making that left on a yellow... shame on you and I don't have any sympathy. That's just inconsiderate and shows no appreciation for helping traffic flow...
 

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Northred, you want to answer Yes to the question of tickets in the past three years regardless of whether or not they involved points.

If you answer No and they actually search the records and find that $40 ticket, they have the right to refuse you insurance and immediately cancel your policy.

Then when you go to attempt to get insurance elsewhere, finding out that you were refused insurance or had a policy canceled does not look good to prospective insurance companies.

As was already mentioned, having a couple of "no points" tickets over a couple or three years should not affect your insurance rates but lying about them definitely will give you all kinds of grief.

As for the original issue, always be curtious to the cop and any other legal system people you encounter.

The scenario that Angel Aurora mentioned in terms of meeting with a crown attorney before hand is now common place. They attempt to clear up any cases they can by coming to an agreeable compromise so as to limit the requirement of tieing up valuable court time. That is why they are able to offer what looks like a really good deal to you to drop the cost and no points depending on the actual circumstances of the incident.
 

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<That being said, if you were in the left turn lane, and were like the fourth car making that left on a yellow... shame on you and I don't have any sympathy. That's just inconsiderate and shows no appreciation for helping traffic flow...>

Yeah, I did that dirty.

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My insurance agent told me, that for any speeding ticket my insurance goes up simply by 10% each ticket.

And just some experience to pass on. Previously I had agreed in court to a 1 month license suspension to reduce a fine (don't ask). Anyway the following year the broker asked "has your license ever been suspended." I said yes as part of a plea bargain, so I was put into facility ($$$). I had reduced the fine, but my insurance easily went up by $1k as a result. But here's the kicker:

The following year I switched brokers. My new broker asked me the question on suspension and I answered the same. She said, well we should check your record, because if it was just with the judge it might not have been put on your record. So she paid a wopping $15 to do a search which indicated no suspensions. I was not longer facility but in fact a four star driver.

So if you're unsure of your record, ask your broker to do a search to confirm things it could save you money.
 

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Northred said:
Thanks for the quick responses... so when your insurance guy asks you or you are filling out the form and it asks if you have any speeding tickets, do you answer Yes or No to a $40 no points ticket?
I agree with Nibbler that lying is not a good idea. But think about this...you say "no tickets" when in fact you had 1 "no points" infraction. Six months later, you are in an accident and make a $5000 claim. They finally get around to doing a search of your driving record...oh oh! "Sorry buddy, but you lied, so this policy is null and void. It says right here in the fine print." Now I am not a lawyer, so I don't know what the outcome would be. Maybe you can fight it and win, based on the fact that one small infraction does not substantively change your driving record, but you are still out lawyer fees, time and aggravation. That little nightmare scenerio keeps me honest. That's the way I see it.
 

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Actually - I have a question for TERB.

I drove to California two years ago from Toronto. I was going through the New Mexico desert, and got nailed doing 170 Kms/hr in a 100 km/hr (70 mph???). Well, I never paid it, and was told that there might even be a warrant out for me if I cross the border again...is that true??
 

Questor

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LOL Tell you what HH. Drive down to California and do 170 km/hr through New Mexico. If we don't hear from you in say one week, well, I guess we have the answer to your question.
 

HowardHughes

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Ummmm...I don't think that is such a good idea!!!!!

But I do appreciate the suggestion though!
 

HornyTime

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Could you call a police station in the NM and just inquire? Can't they look it up on their computer.

I would think they could charge late fees, but I don't think they'd actually arrest you. Well maybe you'd have to pay by credit card on the spot the outstanding charges.

Is that the "Hang 'Em High" state? I watched the Outlaw Josey Wales a couple days ago! Actually that area is where I really want to visit, the Grand Canyon area, pity if you're not allowed into the state anymore.
 
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