Trudeau Selfie With Terror Suspect

[Butler1000]

I'm glad they did that. The world would have been better off if the conflict could have been resolved by killing them off or at least imprisoning them, but that deal with odious terrorists was the least bloody way to achieve peace.

They are still terrorist scumbags for setting off bombs that killed children. Why can't you bring yourself to denounce terrorism?

Still with this foolishness? Seriously fuji you are just plain wrong. How about this. Does making peace with the IRA make Westminster enablers as well?

If they are willing to make peace and sort things out then they aren't terrorists. That's the benchmark. And it's a very real and good one. It's how real peace is made.

According to you wiping them out would have been better. But you never really do that. The middle east proves that. They just grow a new head.

And that's why you and the rest of the neocons are wrong. You were wrong about Ireland. And wrong about the ME and north Africa.

 

[fuji]

Still with this foolishness? Seriously fuji you are just plain wrong.

No, YOU are plain wrong. You are trying to dispute that people who blow up children aren't terrorists. It's ludicrously stupid.

How about this. Does making peace with the IRA make Westminster enablers as well?

Nope. See my post above about the pragmatic reasons to make a deal with scumbag terrorists.

If they are willing to make peace and sort things out then they aren't terrorists.

False. That's just a stupid thing to say.

According to you wiping them out would have been better.

Only an illiterate fool would think that's what I said.

 

[SkyRider]

Looks like everything worked out fine once the English took them seriously and both sides realized peace was worth concessions.

The Irish are commemorating the 100th anniversary of the Easter Uprising when the Irish rose up against their British occupier and oppressor. The armed struggle ended with the Good Friday Agreement signed on April 10, 1998.
http://www.wesleyjohnston.com/users/ireland/today/good_friday/synopsis.html

In a magnanimous gesture, the Irish allowed the Brits to honour their fallen soldiers on Irish soil. The time for denouncement is past. Now is the time to continue building the peace and reconciliation.

 

[SkyRider]

I agree that it was a brave gesture from Abbas

Yet, there are people who call Abbas a terrorist.
http://www.israelvideonetwork.com/l...-about-palestinian-arab-leader-mahmoud-abbas/

According to our friend Fuji's definition, anybody who ever supported Abbas is a supporter of terrorism.

 

[SkyRider]

Still with this foolishness? Seriously fuji you are just plain wrong.

According to you wiping them out would have been better. But you never really do that. The middle east proves that. They just grow a new head.

And that's why you and the rest of the neocons are wrong. You were wrong about Ireland. And wrong about the ME and north Africa.

Our friend Fuji will never support a peace agreement with any so call "terrorist" groups. His view is constant war/violence is preferable until one side or the other is obliterated.

 

[Frankfooter]

Still with this foolishness? Seriously fuji you are just plain wrong. How about this. Does making peace with the IRA make Westminster enablers as well?

If they are willing to make peace and sort things out then they aren't terrorists. That's the benchmark. And it's a very real and good one. It's how real peace is made.

According to you wiping them out would have been better. But you never really do that. The middle east proves that. They just grow a new head.

And that's why you and the rest of the neocons are wrong. You were wrong about Ireland. And wrong about the ME and north Africa.

Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya and Yemen all show that you can't fight terrorists by bombing them and trying to kill them all.
All it does is inspire more to join the fight.

Even Nelson Mandela was branded as a terrorist.

 

[oral.com]

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada...or-probe-took-selfie-with-justin-trudeau.html

Our Prime Minister is so naive. I don't blame the RCMP. I blame the people who allowed a terror suspect into the country.

Wow! He's wearing a shirt!

 

[Butler1000]

I'm glad they did that. The world would have been better off if the conflict could have been resolved by killing them off or at least imprisoning them, but that deal with odious terrorists was the least bloody way to achieve peace.

They are still terrorist scumbags for setting off bombs that killed children. Why can't you bring yourself to denounce terrorism?

Illiterate eh? "The world would have been better by killing them off".

Your first choice was death, not reconciliation. You think making a real peace deal that has lasted was holding your nose compared to more killing.

War mongering, destabilizing bullshit. You don't hate oppression fuji. You just don't like it when it isn't your guy doing it.

You just lost.

 

[fuji]

Our friend Fuji will never support a peace agreement with any so call "terrorist" groups. His view is constant war/violence is preferable until one side or the other is obliterated.

Wrong. You are now just lying to distract from you own support of terrorism. Lying. Blatantly lying.

Which is unsurprising from the sort of person who supports terrorism. You have that in common with the Hamas supporter on this board: also a prolific liar.

The lies come because at some point you recognized that people find your honest beliefs revolting, so you can't actually be honest.

I have many times said that the deal with the IRA was a good solution to the violence and many times said that if Hamas were to disarm they should be granted an amnesty. Making a deal with terrorist scumbags can be preferable to letting the violence continue. Israel disarmed Irgun at gunpoint and a granted an amnesty to its members.

But that doesn't change the fact that Irgun were terrorists. They went into Deir Yasmin and mass murdered innocent civilians. They would have done the same in more places if Haganah hadn't stopped them. It was vile.

I can easily denounce that.

You cannot. You actually support the IRA bombing campaign and you consider the dead children to be acceptable in service of your cause.

Your support for IRA terrorism is despicable, and your lack of ethics has now shown up as well in your lying.

 

[Butler1000]

Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya and Yemen all show that you can't fight terrorists by bombing them and trying to kill them all.
All it does is inspire more to join the fight.

Even Nelson Mandela was branded as a terrorist.

True. It's the interference without any sort of plan nor any real understanding of the byzantine power structures involving faith, family, clan, political party that gets them in trouble.

They don't understand democracy as we do as ours is based on the absolute of the individual whereas they deem the collective paramount. Add in an unwillingness to compromise in many cases and peace will continue to be elusive.

But hey the oil has to flow so better to destabilize because we don't need opec to get uppity.

 

[fuji]

Illiterate eh? "The world would have been better by killing them off".

Your first choice was death, not reconciliation. You think making a real peace deal that has lasted was holding your nose compared to more killing.

War mongering, destabilizing bullshit. You don't hate oppression fuji. You just don't like it when it isn't your guy doing it.

You just lost.

Wrong. I never said any such thing. Read my reply to SkyRider above. You are making shit up either based on an inability to read English or a propensity for lying.

 

[Butler1000]

I'm glad they did that. The world would have been better off if the conflict could have been resolved by killing them off or at least imprisoning them, but that deal with odious terrorists was the least bloody way to achieve peace.

They are still terrorist scumbags for setting off bombs that killed children. Why can't you bring yourself to denounce terrorism?

How many times should I put up your quote? The world would have been better off if the conflict had been resolved by KILLING them.

Now you are in Trump Territory fuji.

Your words. Feel free to add some salt and pepper to make them more palettable as you eat them.

 

[fuji]

How many times should I put up your quote? The world would have been better off if the conflict had been resolved by KILLING them.

Absolutely true. Don't you agree that it's better when terrorists are dead? Do you think the world is worse off because bin laden was killed? Do you think it's a bad thing when police find and kill a bomb maker?

But only half of what I said, liar. Right after that part I wrote about the value of making a deal with the scumbags if it achieves peace with fewer innocents dead. I don't care about dead terrorists, I do care about dead civilians. Here were my words:

"The world would have been better off if the conflict could have been resolved by killing them off or at least imprisoning them, but that deal with odious terrorists was the least bloody way to achieve peace."

You lie.

 

[fuji]

I don't either fuji. And will say so directly. Oppression must be fought. Just because they were English doesn't mean they were civilized. They oppressed. And so had to be fought.

^^^^^^

Here's Butler supporting terrorism, claiming the IRA was justified in killing children and other innocent civilians.

Fucking disgusting.

 

[Butler1000]

Absolutely true. Don't you agree that it's better when terrorists are dead? Do you think the world is worse off because bin laden was killed? Do you think it's a bad thing when police find and kill a bomb maker?

But only half of what I said, liar. Right after that part I wrote about the value of making a deal with the scumbags if it achieves peace with fewer innocents dead. I don't care about dead terrorists, I do care about dead civilians. Here were my words:

"The world would have been better off if the conflict could have been resolved by killing them off or at least imprisoning them, but that deal with odious terrorists was the least bloody way to achieve peace."

You lie.

Better off means it's your first choice. If you had been in charge you would have killed them and not tried to make peace.

You lose. That's your view, I'm just repeating it Mr Trump.

 

[fuji]

Better off means it's your first choice. If you had been in charge you would have killed them and not tried to make peace.

You lose. That's your view, I'm just repeating it Mr Trump.

I think even small children can read better than you:

"The world would have been better off
if the conflict could have been resolved by killing them off or at least imprisoning them,
but that deal with odious terrorists was the least bloody way to achieve peace."

Meanwhile you have expressed you open support for people who murder children.

 

[Butler1000]

^^^^^^

Here's Butler supporting terrorism, claiming the IRA was justified in killing children and other innocent civilians.

Fucking disgusting.

Supporting freedom fighters who came to the table, disarmed and made peace.

That's the reality. Your world is only us(neocons) vs them(anyone who won't kowtow to our narrow world view)

And any that oppose, well, the first choice is kill them. Sounds less less democracy and more like empire to me.

 

[Butler1000]

I think even small children can read better than you:

"The world would have been better off if the conflict could have been resolved by killing them off or at least imprisoning them, but that deal with odious terrorists was the least bloody way to achieve peace."

The if doesn't matter. It still means it's your first choice. Death, not peace.

 

[fuji]

Supporting freedom fighters who came to the table, disarmed and made peace.

The reality is you support terrorists who blow up children.

Period.

You are no better than an Islamist who supports 9/11.

You would say that if the US ever negotiates the disarmament of islamist terrorists then the WTC bombing was justified.

You are sick.

 

[basketcase]

The point again is once they signed for peace I believe they became "freedom fighters". It is history that will eventually show them as such. ....

Sorry but no. Freedom fighters target military and government. Terrorists target civilians. The IRA, UDA and many more were terrorists and their past actions deserve condemnation. The fact that they moved on from their terrorism is laudable but that does not mean that they were not terrorists. The same can be said for Begin and Abbas (though he still praises terrorists).