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Trump Bans Transgender Athletes from Women's Sports

WyattEarp

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It would probably behoove the crowd upset by Trump's action to start differentiating on the issue.
It's likely the IOC will move to ban athletes who have undergone make puberty from women's Olympic sports.

Some of this crowd is not strong in differentiating issues, so let me help you.

Your beef should be with the President getting involved with deciding this issue instead of athletic governing bodies. That would be a valid beef, but those here advocating for transgender athletes in women's sports are fighting and feigning for a losing cause. This even though a few progressive members have idealistic views of being part of a cause that will inevitably find change with social attitudes. You know that crowd. They aren't wrong. They're on the right side of history.)
 
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Lol. Now I’m “the looney left”. As if I am an entire political spectrum. LaStooge strikes again!
hey if the shoe fits, wear it Cinderella

this garbage is obviously not right oriented and certainly not centralist
If righties really cared about women’s sports, they would be advocating for equal pay, equal coverage, equal endorsements but they don’t so you really know it comes down to that weird obsession they have with what’s in your pants.
do we need to define new political positioning in multiple dimensions now because the left are ashamed of their history of failure?
please provide clarity so i don't offend anyone unintentionally
 

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those here advocating for transgender athletes in women's sports are fighting and feigning for a losing cause. This even though a few progressive members have idealistic views of being part of a cause that will inevitably find change with social attitudes. You know that crowd. They aren't wrong. They're on the right side of history.)
Amazing this is the hill they choose to die on.

They need a new compass because they can't find the moral high ground anymore.

It's textbook crazy.
 

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It really depends on the sport. I'm not sure why you are making blanket statements.
Yet you have no problem with others also making blanket statements in this thread because it fits your narrative. Typical rightie hypocrisy from the master of hypocrisy, WyattTwerp.
 
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Yet you have no problem with others also making blanket statements in this thread because it fits your narrative. Typical rightie hypocrisy from the master of hypocrisy, WyattTwerp.
Name calling gets people tossed. That's a blanket statement.
 
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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Now that there is an EO there is nothing to worry about...Glad you agree
The EO will be rescinded in the future and will be challenged in court and most likely get blocked just like the trans male prisoner EO got blocked.
It can also not be enforced at the local level.
But if the optics will get you to sit down, then great.
 

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The EO will be rescinded in the future and will be challenged in court and most likely get blocked just like the trans male prisoner EO got blocked.
It can also not be enforced at the local level.
But if the optics will get you to sit down, then great.
 
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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That is democracy.
If the 80% want the 20% to be hurt in some way, democratic principles suggest you side with the 20%.
Otherwise it is majoritarianism.
I know MAGA aficionados don't like democracy.
 

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That is democracy.
If the 80% want the 20% to be hurt in some way, democratic principles suggest you side with the 20%.
Otherwise it is majoritarianism.
I know MAGA aficionados don't like democracy.
You're dying on this hill, lol...
 
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The EO will die on this hill.
You can watch it die and blame the libs as usual.
Unfortunately for you we live in a country where trans folks are protected by law.
Does that grind your gears? lol.
Shaq, since you arrived here you've proven yourself to be drawn to every shiny object the progressive movement dangles in front of you. Transgender athletes in women's sports are going to rapidly be banned at all levels. It's also going to be banned in international sports.

Whether the EO stands or not, it is largely a foregone conclusion. You should be complaining that Trump is grabbing largely a symbolic moment. However, the progressives handed it to him.
 
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WyattEarp

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It can also not be enforced at the local level.
Please start thinking through your posts.

While the EO stands, what local level are you thinking will allow transgender athletes to compete in women's sports. Not only do U.S. universities receive Federal funds so do most high schools. The youth leagues all have feeding kids into high school sports as an objective. Some community youth sports are loosely integrated with the high school program. They will conform to the high school standards.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Shaq, since you arrived here you've proven yourself to be drawn to every shiny object the progressive movement dangles in front of you. Transgender athletes in women's sports are going to rapidly be banned at all levels. It's also going to be banned in international sports.

Whether the EO stands or not, it is largely a foregone conclusion. You should be complaining that Trump is grabbing largely a symbolic moment. However, the progressives handed to him.
I am not strictly for trans women in sports.
I rather support a case by case basis.
I dont think trans women are going to be banned outright.
I think some physical or medical requirements will be made mandatory to be able to compete to show that they have properly transitioned.
The EO on the other hand wont stand.
You are also forgetting the arguments for the inclusion of trans women in women's sports.
They will argue that physical differences exist even amongst the same men and women.
For example, Michael Phelps having a huge wingspan for example.
So this debate is not yet done and you thinking it is a foregone conclusion is a premature conclusion.
Please start thinking through your posts.

While the EO stands, what local level are you thinking will allow transgender athletes to compete in women's sports. Not only do U.S. universities receive Federal funds so do most high schools. The youth leagues all have feeding kids into high school sports as an objective. Some community youth sports are loosely integrated with the high school program. They will conform to the high school standards.
The EO wont stand in the long term.
Therefore the schools at the local level will take a call on whether or not they allow trans women.
 
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