Trump begins flip flopping
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No, it's not. Trump defeated 16 other candidates, fair and square. Most of them just as or more accomplished than him. The same goes for Clinton. That nobody except the crazy Bernie, decided to run against her was because of the consensus on the left that it was her turn. You should look up the editorial positions on the Democratic prospects from couple of years ago. Clinton's candidacy was considered a done deal and a gold standard. Hence, the superdelegates from day one. So, don't tell me now, just because your candidate is imploding, that this is a b-list election. It's a miserable excuse for the lack of vision.
Voters don't like - they LOVE Trump and Bernie.
What you consider b-level is actually a historic election season.
I don't understand what is people's problem with Trump. In my opinion he wants to save 3.3 million Muslims from their own "brothers" who are waiting to kill anyone! But nobody sees him in this light. It would be utterly stupid to even think that Muslim brotherhood or Wahhabism isn't a problem. And if nothing is done soon, things will get worse and worse every day that passes by.
He is a pathological liar - there is a question if his habitual lying is the result of his arrogant narcissistic personality. How can you cherry pick his statements when he continually contradicts himself ? He intentionally targets the lower echelon levels of society with bigoted, racists statements intended to solicit votes from the KKK, etc.
His continual reverses and lies make for good comedy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpKiP_gmDS8 (Trump debates himself)
A liar, a narcissist, insecurity copmplex ... why would any intelligent person want these qualities in a president of the world's most powerful country ??
Better than a Neo Con faking as a progressive Democrat who has endorsed and voted for legislation, endorsed measures that have result in the deaths of hundreds of thousands and the displacement of millions. Who endorsed legislation that results in the incarceration of thousands of US citizens. Who has used her place in gov't to enrich herself at the expense of others. Who stood by and let an Ambassador die and lied about it.
And I'm just hitting a few highlights here. There is decades of material to work with.
A succinct indictment of Clinton:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...clinton_is_not_qualified_to_be_president.html
Electing her would be national suicide.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...clinton_is_not_qualified_to_be_president.html
Electing her would be national suicide.
Are you saying it isn't true that she voted for the Iraq war? That she led the charge to destabilize Libya? That she was part of the same in Syria?Must be true if it come's from Grumpy Trumps advisor.
Curious if you consider these actions the core values associated with the Democratic Party?
The invasion of Iraq part 1 and part 2 were both wrong.
The west should have left Syria alone and let Assad do what he wanted.
Results matter, not good intentions. This ain't garbage collection and potholes, this stuff is written up in the history books. There were detractors for these wars. But the people with war fever spoke louder.
Hillary's problems with her foreign adventures is that everything she touched turned to shit.
Trump so far all he has said is he won't touch it.
They were both well justified. The problem with 1 was they didn't finish the job. There was no problem with 2. There was a botched reconstruction effort AFTER 2. Still s better outcome today than had Saddam been left there.
The West has had fuck all to do with the Syrian war. Very limited involvement and hardly any impact
Yeah, but fuji, you can already hear Donald Trump on how he will attack Hillary on this.
Hillary will say there were justified as she voted for it.
Trump will reply will a standard answer: "Has the Hillarator never heard of the fog of war? Some Commander in Chief she will make".
The conservatives in the crowd will laugh and approve. The Liberals in the crowd will probably try to storm the stage to take out The Donald.
opcorn:
This is a matter of interpretation, as the facts on the ground kind of fuzzy in Syria, but from what I remember the USA was involved in a big way.
US Steps Up Syria Bombing Against ISIS
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/02/22/us-steps-up-syria-bombing-against-isis.html
Also, it is how one interprets Turkey's role in the Syria civil war. Since Turkey in NATO, their actions are a proxy of the West.
Everyone knows that the Turkey Syria border is where the ISIL fighters from Europe enter into Syria from Turkey.
Yes. I have consider the war wrong. It was sold with lies. There was no reason for it. And it was horribly executed. Easy to beat a third world nation with the American Military. Totally botched everything after the first 10 days.
And HILLARY would have known from her Husband it was false. And still voted for it.
Ask any veteran or family of veterans if they feel betrayed by Bush and every member of gov't who sent them. And re sent them. And then fucked up with every wounded soldier as well. He'll they fucked over the 9/11 first responders as well.
Trump and Saunders hit their stride when they attacked on the basis of the Crash and the Wars. That's when they became contenders. And why Trump won and Bernie may yet at the convention.
So do you consider Hillary to represent supposed Democratic progressive values...or Bush neo Con ones?
Why? Like Ghadafi he was contained and neutered. And was keeping the sects in check. Now we have hundreds of thousands dead, wounded.
And yes the majority of ISIS Commanders are ex, Iraq officers. The war created ISIS. And the chaos for them to thrive. 13 years later there is no viable gov't. The breakdown of 2 countries.
Taking out Saddam while fighting a war in Afghanistan was a mistake. Fighting on two fronts when unnecessary is always a military blunder. And Hillary voted for it.
Why did Saddam have to go when the Saud's didn't? Why not Iran? Why lie about WMDS? The whole thing stinks.
And Hillary is up to her eyeballs in it. In Iraq, Syria, Libya. Costing countless lives and debt.
That's why Trump and Bernie are where they are. The betrayal of the present incubents of both parties of the American people.
Why? Like Ghadafi he was contained and neutered. And was keeping the sects in check. Now we have hundreds of thousands dead, wounded.
And yes the majority of ISIS Commanders are ex, Iraq officers. The war created ISIS. And the chaos for them to thrive. 13 years later there is no viable gov't. The breakdown of 2 countries.
Taking out Saddam while fighting a war in Afghanistan was a mistake. Fighting on two fronts when unnecessary is always a military blunder. And Hillary voted for it.
Why did Saddam have to go when the Saud's didn't? Why not Iran? Why lie about WMDS? The whole thing stinks.
And Hillary is up to her eyeballs in it. In Iraq, Syria, Libya. Costing countless lives and debt.
That's why Trump and Bernie are where they are. The betrayal of the present incubents of both parties of the American people.
