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The administration’s theory of the case is that tariff deals with other countries will isolate China — and urge them to come to the table.

04/16/2025

President Donald Trump wants Chinese leader Xi Jinping to call. Making trade deals with China’s neighbors is part of a broader White House strategy to get him to the negotiating table.

As the two countries face off in a bitter trade war, the administration’s current theory of the case, which has been circulating among Trump allies and was confirmed by a White House official, is that tariff deals with Asian countries, as well as the dozens of others across the globe seeking to negotiate with the U.S., will isolate China, disrupt the Chinese supply chain and threaten to cut the country off from the rest of the world.

The White House sees the wave of announcements from companies moving manufacturing operations to the U.S. and its broader sectoral-based tariff strategy as key components in getting Xi to cooperate as well, said the official, who like others in this story was granted anonymity to discuss the administration’s strategy.

“Once you see a lot of countries — not just in southeast Asia or Asia, but all over — you’ll see that they’re willing to make deals with America, and that exerts pressure on China to hopefully come to the table,” the official said. “Because China’s economy is reliant on a lot of these other countries around the world, I think once people see, hopefully, deals being struck with these countries, that exerts pressure on China.”

But even people close to the White House — who want to see Trump succeed, China crippled and manufacturing boom in the U.S. — are unsure the strategy will work. Some argue cutting deals with other countries is at odds with the president’s broader America First approach on trade, which seeks to restore U.S. manufacturing, while using tariffs as a stick to eke out leverage. Others see those deals as a necessary stopgap as the U.S. works to reshore manufacturing.

“The tough balance is the fact that we get money because of tariffs, but we want to pick and choose which countries to have free trade with. We want to appear to be going towards free trade but we also love the revenue from tariffs,” said a second White House official.

Trump allies also note China has been preparing for another trade war with the United States for years, pointing to the measures China is implementing to inflict its own form of pressure on the U.S., such as retaliatory tariffs and other bureaucratic obstacles. They also acknowledge China, as an authoritarian government, will likely have more success in urging its citizens to withstand temporary pain than the U.S. would.

Deals with allies in Asia could take time, a luxury jittery bond markets may not afford the president. And even if they do manifest, there’s no guarantee that they would hem in China, which has proven adept at dodging U.S. tariffs in the past.

“The theory is, get all of Asia but China to the table, incentivize them with lower tariffs and U.S. companies will leave China,” said one person close to the White House. “And yes it makes sense. It’s happening already. But is it enough to move China? Big question.”

Two different people close to the White House said Trump, not a deputy, is leading the administration’s strategy on China, which has in some cases left people outside the White House without a point person to go to.

“This is one of those areas where Trump is on his own,” said another person close to the White House. “Unlike the first term, there aren’t a lot of, or any, really, I think dissenting voices on the overall picture.”

Asked who is leading the White House’s negotiations on China, a third person close to the White House quipped: “A junior staffer named Donald Trump.”

So far, the administration is shooting blanks in its strategy of pushing Beijing into de-escalation through its sky-high 145 percent tariff on Chinese imports.

Beijing has punched back with both a 125 percent retaliatory tariff and a suite of non-tariff import curbs calculated to inflict pain across a swathe of economic sectors. They include bureaucratic obstacles to agricultural and energy imports, a travel advisory aimed at kneecapping Chinese tourist arrivals to the U.S. and — per a Bloomberg report Tuesday — halting delivery of Boeing aircraft.

Trump could leverage similar non-tariff trade weapons targeting potentially vulnerable Chinese export sectors to push Beijing into talks. That could include import quotas on Chinese steel or textiles, requiring U.S. importers to get government licenses for procuring Chinese exports to the U.S. or imposing new U.S. safety, labeling, or environmental standards for Chinese products, said Harry Broadman, a former assistant U.S. trade representative in the George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton administrations.

But Beijing’s defiance so far suggests that those tactics may be as unsuccessful as steep tariffs.

“The bigger question is what gets the two sides to the negotiating table — is there anything left to do that would constitute an escalation that’s more signal than noise? No,” said Marc Busch, who advised both USTR and the Commerce Department on technical trade barriers during the Obama and first Trump administrations, and is now a professor of international business diplomacy at Georgetown University.

Instead, Beijing has leveraged global frustration with Trump as an opportunity to make inroads with both Europe and its East Asian neighbors.

China signed dozens of cooperation agreements with Vietnam on Monday as Xi sweeps across southeast Asia, where he will also visit Malaysia and Cambodia, two countries that risk getting hit especially hard by the return of Trump’s so-called reciprocal tariffs. Meanwhile, top Japanese officials are set to meet with U.S. trade negotiators in Washington on Wednesday.

“If you’re Vietnam or Cambodia or Malaysia you have to recognize that we’re in a heavyweight battle now between China and the United States and Trump is probably not going to back down,” said Thomas Duesterberg, a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute.

Still, he said, these countries should be realistic about China and its economy.

“The southeast Asians have to understand that Xi is not going to change the operating macroeconomic model in China, which is based on overproduction and exports,” he said.

Henrietta Levin, former deputy China director at the State Department during the Biden administration, said she did not expect Trump’s efforts to pressure China to the table would work.

“In today’s China, strategic decisions are first of all of course made by one man, by Chinese President Xi Jinping,” she said. “He cares about his own political dignity and national greatness in a way that overshadows more tactical considerations.”

It’s a challenge that Trump allies acknowledge. While Trump also cares about his own personal image, he lacks the control over the American people that Xi has over the Chinese, and can’t simply urge them to embrace austerity in the hope of a better America down the road. It’s a point that was underscored by the administration’s announcement on Friday that consumer electronics would be carved out from the hefty reciprocal tariffs on China, and by Trump’s own post on Truth Social Tuesday suggesting future relief to help American farmers weather the tariffs.

“The strategy is the classic Trump playbook — use leverage, be tough, go to the mat, don’t blink,” said one former Trump administration official. “Although he blinked already, which really does harm his credibility on these things.”

Derek Scissors, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and chief economist of the China Beige Book, said, “it should surprise nobody that Trump is just backing down.”

“He’s never wanted to confront the Chinese. So we had a few days where it looked like he wanted to confront the Chinese and people should not have taken that seriously. Could it happen? Yes, if everything goes wrong,” Scissors said. “But his inclination is to bluster a great deal and then back off.”

Intent on not being seen as caving by making the first move, Trump telegraphed a growing desperation to engage with Xi by sending White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt into the briefing room on Tuesday with a dictated message for the Chinese leader.

“The ball is in China’s court. China needs to make a deal with us. We don’t have to make a deal with them. There’s no difference between China and any other country, except they are much larger, and China wants what we have — what every country wants — what we have, the American consumer,” Leavitt said, reading from Trump’s prepared statement. “Or, put another way, they need our money.”

Interestingly, JP Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon, whose recession worries helped spur Trump to dial back tariffs last week, applied new pressure in an interview on Tuesday, urging Trump and Xi to begin talks sooner rather than later.

“It doesn’t have to wait a year,” Dimon said of U.S.-China talks in a sit-down with the Financial Times. “It could start tomorrow.”

 

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The administration’s theory of the case is that tariff deals with other countries will isolate China — and urge them to come to the table.

My theory of the case is Trump has wiped out any trustworthiness of the U.S. that had
remained intact until the 245% tariff on China was in place. Other countries will rather
cut deal with China to isolate the U.S.
 

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The administration’s theory of the case is that tariff deals with other countries will isolate China — and urge them to come to the table.

My theory of the case is Trump has wiped out any trustworthiness of the U.S. that had
remained intact until the 245% tariff on China was in place. Other countries will rather
cut deal with China to isolate the U.S.
Yeah, I'm getting that impression. I mean, if Trump can re-negotiate NAFTA just a few years ago to USMCA, and he already wants to tear it up....who can trust any trade deal with him or his successors? What Trump's election has told the rest of the world is that the US has no honour or commitment to the treaties it has signed, and therefore, cannot be trusted. And that isn't just for trade. Who knows what Trump would do if a NATO nation was attacked. Would he support them or demand trade concessions first?

As for the other countries....I think they're looking elsewhere. As Carney rightfully put it, we can no longer rely on the US for anything, especially trade.

The irony here is that while Trump is all about America first....it's more like America on its own. And, they will find out how much that will fuck them over in the long term...
 

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Trump walking back tariffs won’t stop the coming stock and bond market collapse

April 13, 2025

The illusion of control is slipping. What we’re witnessing isn’t just a market wobble. It’s the prelude to something far more disruptive. As the façade of stability continues to crack, the choices before Washington are narrowing, and none of them lead to a soft landing.

Trump’s decision to pause tariffs for 90 days on April 9 sparked a brief rally. Stocks cheered. Yields didn’t. They kept rising. Stocks dropped the next day as soaring yields stole the spotlight. That detail alone should rattle anyone still clinging to the old rulebook. When both stocks and yields surge, it’s not optimism. It’s a red flag. The bond market is flashing warnings that confidence in U.S. fiscal management is rapidly eroding.

His plan, announced Saturday, to roll back tariffs on high-tech imports from China was framed by some as a step toward de-escalation. But the deeper issue remains. Every retreat in his tariff strategy means less revenue to offset a ballooning deficit. The numbers don’t lie, and the math isn’t working.

If yields continue rising Monday as he rolls back tariffs, it will confirm our worst fears — the market is losing confidence in how America handles its debt. A big rally in stocks, widely anticipated for Monday, could fizzle out fast as the week drags on.

Trump originally claimed his tariff strategy would generate $600 billion a year. Enough to shift the balance sheet of a country hemorrhaging over $2 trillion annually. That promise is now collapsing. Walking back tariffs might buy a rally, but it sells out the long-term fiscal picture. And it’s not just the revenue that’s vanishing. The political capital is, too. He’s simultaneously pushing for more tax cuts while reaffirming that Social Security and Medicare are untouchable. That leaves almost no room to maneuver. Cuts to discretionary spending are a political landmine. Slashing military outlays is unlikely. Balancing the budget is impossible.

And now Congress is making the 2017 tax cuts permanent. Another $3.5 trillion added to the debt over a decade. The cost of political convenience is compounding faster than interest itself.

Foreign creditors see this. They’re not just selling Treasuries because of trade tensions. They’re bailing because the math no longer works. You have a $7 trillion spending plan for fiscal year 2025, with over $1 trillion of that just for interest on the existing debt. Against this stands $5 trillion in tax revenue. Every dollar borrowed is a bet that inflation doesn’t blow up. That bet is increasingly looking like a sucker’s play.

The Federal Reserve, too, is trapped. They cut rates three times late last year to breathe life into the economy. It didn’t work. Yields kept rising anyway. That’s not how it’s supposed to work. Markets are signaling that the Fed has lost credibility. Monetary easing is being drowned out by structural deficits and runaway debt issuance.

Trump’s 90-day tariff pause with every country but China gave markets the second-best rally in history. But it also gave the bond market another reason to panic. A sugar rush that ends in a crash. Every walk-back in the trade war weakens the only leverage he had to rein in the deficit without touching sacred entitlements. Now, there’s no stick left. Only carrots and IOUs.

DOGE’s original goal to slash $2 trillion from the deficit has now shrunk to a meager $150 billion in cuts projected for 2026. It’s a rounding error. And yet even with this, projections show that debt growth under Trump 2.0 may still outpace the Biden era. The difference is that Biden didn’t pretend there was a way out. Trump is still pretending.

Foreigners are not stupid. They’re watching U.S. Treasuries lose their cash equivalent status in real time. A 30-year bond yielding 5 percent today could lose 15 percent of its value in just months if the panic accelerates.

High yields mean Treasury prices are falling. That means U.S. debt isn’t a safe haven anymore. It’s a trap.

And so we arrive at a moment where Trump can’t cut, can’t spend, can’t tax, and can’t borrow without consequences. The Fed can’t print without igniting more inflation. The fiscal crisis is no longer in the future. It’s here. This is the endgame of decades of kicking the can.

An international bank has now warned of a crisis of confidence in U.S. dollar assets. That’s not a small warning. That’s an alarm bell echoing through the vaults of the global monetary system. If trust goes, so goes everything.

The fiat system is naked. The mask has fallen. And the world is watching.

 
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The administration’s theory of the case is that tariff deals with other countries will isolate China — and urge them to come to the table.

My theory of the case is Trump has wiped out any trustworthiness of the U.S. that had
remained intact until the 245% tariff on China was in place. Other countries will rather
cut deal with China to isolate the U.S.
Canada and Mexico already have Trade deals with America that were signed off by Trump his first presidency.
If he's not going the deal he made personally, what's the point doing it again?
 
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Canada and Mexico already have Trade deals with America that were signed off by Trump his first presidency.
If he's not going the deal he made personally, what's the point doing it again?
That's exactly the point that sober people have been trying to explain to the Trump cultists. And now, with 48% voting for him, they doubled down on ruining their country's already low reputation for intelligence of the general pubic. Now, they are also squandering whatever power their self-proclaimed integrity they had and have now CLEARLY proven themselves untrustworthy,

They have earned the reciprocated loss of loyalty of their 'friends'.

Oh and did I mention nobody likes greedy whiners complaining they are not being treated fairly... when they are the richest country in the history of the world. Whahhhhhh👶
 
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Trump is trying to project strength to China and other nations, positioning himself as a tough negotiator. His message is essentially, "Accept my terms, or face even harsher consequences." His aggressive stance appears aimed at boosting his image among his MAGA base by showing he’s willing to "teach China a lesson."
However, if this strategy fails, it will expose him as both reckless and ruthless on the global stage.
China, for its part, has responded by stating it will not raise tariffs on American goods beyond 125%, as that level has already crippled trade. Further increases, they argue, would have little practical effect. Moreover, China has declared it will not retaliate further or engage in talks under such pressure.

While Trump’s office has requested a call from Chinese officials to resolve the dispute, no response has been received. In doing so, China may have quietly offered the world a strategy for dealing with Trump: wait him out.
 

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Trump is trying to project strength to China and other nations, positioning himself as a tough negotiator. His message is essentially, "Accept my terms, or face even harsher consequences." His aggressive stance appears aimed at boosting his image among his MAGA base by showing he’s willing to "teach China a lesson."
However, if this strategy fails, it will expose him as both reckless and ruthless on the global stage.
China, for its part, has responded by stating it will not raise tariffs on American goods beyond 125%, as that level has already crippled trade. Further increases, they argue, would have little practical effect. Moreover, China has declared it will not retaliate further or engage in talks under such pressure.

While Trump’s office has requested a call from Chinese officials to resolve the dispute, no response has been received. In doing so, China may have quietly offered the world a strategy for dealing with Trump: wait him out.
Trump is such an egomaniac that he forgets that Putin, Xi and all other govt's have outrageously skilled psychological experts that have figured out Trump long ago. If not for decades. And certainly knows some of his darket secrets... and weaknesses. Trump, like typical self-aggrandizing bullies always have a history of being bullied and outcast. In Baby Donnie's case it was his abhorrent bigoted bully father Fredrik. The only ones he's fooling are himself and his cult followers. These govt's know what a coarse bluffer poker player he is and letting him bluff with his bile pile of chips. I really believe Trump even knows the mechanics of chess moves, least of all strategy beyond one move.

To any educated, sophisticated senior leader, Trump is ike playing basketball with a midget in DeSantis' high heeled white rubber boots!
 
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The administration’s theory of the case is that tariff deals with other countries will isolate China — and urge them to come to the table.

04/16/2025

President Donald Trump wants Chinese leader Xi Jinping to call. Making trade deals with China’s neighbors is part of a broader White House strategy to get him to the negotiating table.

As the two countries face off in a bitter trade war, the administration’s current theory of the case, which has been circulating among Trump allies and was confirmed by a White House official, is that tariff deals with Asian countries, as well as the dozens of others across the globe seeking to negotiate with the U.S., will isolate China, disrupt the Chinese supply chain and threaten to cut the country off from the rest of the world.

The White House sees the wave of announcements from companies moving manufacturing operations to the U.S. and its broader sectoral-based tariff strategy as key components in getting Xi to cooperate as well, said the official, who like others in this story was granted anonymity to discuss the administration’s strategy.

“Once you see a lot of countries — not just in southeast Asia or Asia, but all over — you’ll see that they’re willing to make deals with America, and that exerts pressure on China to hopefully come to the table,” the official said. “Because China’s economy is reliant on a lot of these other countries around the world, I think once people see, hopefully, deals being struck with these countries, that exerts pressure on China.”

But even people close to the White House — who want to see Trump succeed, China crippled and manufacturing boom in the U.S. — are unsure the strategy will work. Some argue cutting deals with other countries is at odds with the president’s broader America First approach on trade, which seeks to restore U.S. manufacturing, while using tariffs as a stick to eke out leverage. Others see those deals as a necessary stopgap as the U.S. works to reshore manufacturing.

“The tough balance is the fact that we get money because of tariffs, but we want to pick and choose which countries to have free trade with. We want to appear to be going towards free trade but we also love the revenue from tariffs,” said a second White House official.

Trump allies also note China has been preparing for another trade war with the United States for years, pointing to the measures China is implementing to inflict its own form of pressure on the U.S., such as retaliatory tariffs and other bureaucratic obstacles. They also acknowledge China, as an authoritarian government, will likely have more success in urging its citizens to withstand temporary pain than the U.S. would.

Deals with allies in Asia could take time, a luxury jittery bond markets may not afford the president. And even if they do manifest, there’s no guarantee that they would hem in China, which has proven adept at dodging U.S. tariffs in the past.

“The theory is, get all of Asia but China to the table, incentivize them with lower tariffs and U.S. companies will leave China,” said one person close to the White House. “And yes it makes sense. It’s happening already. But is it enough to move China? Big question.”

Two different people close to the White House said Trump, not a deputy, is leading the administration’s strategy on China, which has in some cases left people outside the White House without a point person to go to.

“This is one of those areas where Trump is on his own,” said another person close to the White House. “Unlike the first term, there aren’t a lot of, or any, really, I think dissenting voices on the overall picture.”

Asked who is leading the White House’s negotiations on China, a third person close to the White House quipped: “A junior staffer named Donald Trump.”

So far, the administration is shooting blanks in its strategy of pushing Beijing into de-escalation through its sky-high 145 percent tariff on Chinese imports.

Beijing has punched back with both a 125 percent retaliatory tariff and a suite of non-tariff import curbs calculated to inflict pain across a swathe of economic sectors. They include bureaucratic obstacles to agricultural and energy imports, a travel advisory aimed at kneecapping Chinese tourist arrivals to the U.S. and — per a Bloomberg report Tuesday — halting delivery of Boeing aircraft.

Trump could leverage similar non-tariff trade weapons targeting potentially vulnerable Chinese export sectors to push Beijing into talks. That could include import quotas on Chinese steel or textiles, requiring U.S. importers to get government licenses for procuring Chinese exports to the U.S. or imposing new U.S. safety, labeling, or environmental standards for Chinese products, said Harry Broadman, a former assistant U.S. trade representative in the George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton administrations.

But Beijing’s defiance so far suggests that those tactics may be as unsuccessful as steep tariffs.

“The bigger question is what gets the two sides to the negotiating table — is there anything left to do that would constitute an escalation that’s more signal than noise? No,” said Marc Busch, who advised both USTR and the Commerce Department on technical trade barriers during the Obama and first Trump administrations, and is now a professor of international business diplomacy at Georgetown University.

Instead, Beijing has leveraged global frustration with Trump as an opportunity to make inroads with both Europe and its East Asian neighbors.

China signed dozens of cooperation agreements with Vietnam on Monday as Xi sweeps across southeast Asia, where he will also visit Malaysia and Cambodia, two countries that risk getting hit especially hard by the return of Trump’s so-called reciprocal tariffs. Meanwhile, top Japanese officials are set to meet with U.S. trade negotiators in Washington on Wednesday.

“If you’re Vietnam or Cambodia or Malaysia you have to recognize that we’re in a heavyweight battle now between China and the United States and Trump is probably not going to back down,” said Thomas Duesterberg, a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute.

Still, he said, these countries should be realistic about China and its economy.

“The southeast Asians have to understand that Xi is not going to change the operating macroeconomic model in China, which is based on overproduction and exports,” he said.

Henrietta Levin, former deputy China director at the State Department during the Biden administration, said she did not expect Trump’s efforts to pressure China to the table would work.

“In today’s China, strategic decisions are first of all of course made by one man, by Chinese President Xi Jinping,” she said. “He cares about his own political dignity and national greatness in a way that overshadows more tactical considerations.”

It’s a challenge that Trump allies acknowledge. While Trump also cares about his own personal image, he lacks the control over the American people that Xi has over the Chinese, and can’t simply urge them to embrace austerity in the hope of a better America down the road. It’s a point that was underscored by the administration’s announcement on Friday that consumer electronics would be carved out from the hefty reciprocal tariffs on China, and by Trump’s own post on Truth Social Tuesday suggesting future relief to help American farmers weather the tariffs.

“The strategy is the classic Trump playbook — use leverage, be tough, go to the mat, don’t blink,” said one former Trump administration official. “Although he blinked already, which really does harm his credibility on these things.”

Derek Scissors, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and chief economist of the China Beige Book, said, “it should surprise nobody that Trump is just backing down.”

“He’s never wanted to confront the Chinese. So we had a few days where it looked like he wanted to confront the Chinese and people should not have taken that seriously. Could it happen? Yes, if everything goes wrong,” Scissors said. “But his inclination is to bluster a great deal and then back off.”

Intent on not being seen as caving by making the first move, Trump telegraphed a growing desperation to engage with Xi by sending White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt into the briefing room on Tuesday with a dictated message for the Chinese leader.

“The ball is in China’s court. China needs to make a deal with us. We don’t have to make a deal with them. There’s no difference between China and any other country, except they are much larger, and China wants what we have — what every country wants — what we have, the American consumer,” Leavitt said, reading from Trump’s prepared statement. “Or, put another way, they need our money.”

Interestingly, JP Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon, whose recession worries helped spur Trump to dial back tariffs last week, applied new pressure in an interview on Tuesday, urging Trump and Xi to begin talks sooner rather than later.

“It doesn’t have to wait a year,” Dimon said of U.S.-China talks in a sit-down with the Financial Times. “It could start tomorrow.”

Fark!

Who the f*ck really believes that Tariff Boy has any f#ckin idea what the frick he is doing, let alone this nth level master strategy/deal making bullshit that you post?

Tariff Boy is a fruckin, clueless, spineless idiot.

The Golden Age of Idiot is upon us!
 

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Trump is trying to project strength to China and other nations, positioning himself as a tough negotiator. His message is essentially, "Accept my terms, or face even harsher consequences." His aggressive stance appears aimed at boosting his image among his MAGA base by showing he’s willing to "teach China a lesson."
However, if this strategy fails, it will expose him as both reckless and ruthless on the global stage.
China, for its part, has responded by stating it will not raise tariffs on American goods beyond 125%, as that level has already crippled trade. Further increases, they argue, would have little practical effect. Moreover, China has declared it will not retaliate further or engage in talks under such pressure.

While Trump’s office has requested a call from Chinese officials to resolve the dispute, no response has been received. In doing so, China may have quietly offered the world a strategy for dealing with Trump: wait him out.
It's not, nor even remotely anywhere near as spinetingling as you and your AI helper portend!

Tariff Boy shit his diapers weeks ago, keeps shitting in them daily, waiting for someone to clean up his f*ckin mess.

A clueless fruckin idiot.
 

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It's not, nor even remotely anywhere near as spinetingling as you and your AI helper portend!

Tariff Boy shit his diapers weeks ago, keeps shitting in them daily, waiting for someone to clean up his f*ckin mess.

A clueless fruckin idiot.
 
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Trump says US 'talking' to China on tariffs, adding 'Beijing have reached out a number of times'

Apr 18, 2025

Trump Tariffs Live Updates: China has warned it is "not afraid" of a trade war with the United States, calling instead for dialogue grounded in "equality, respect, and mutual benefit." The remarks from foreign ministry spokesperson Lin Jian came after US President Donald Trump asserted it was Beijing's responsibility to rejoin negotiations. The escalating tensions follow China’s retaliatory moves, which led to a tariff burden of up to 245% on its exports to the US—up from the earlier 145%, according to a White House fact sheet.

Trump has pushed ahead with his "Fair and Reciprocal Plan" to address trade imbalances and non-reciprocal agreements. A 10% baseline tariff now applies across the board, while individualised higher tariffs target nations with significant trade surpluses against the US, including China. Although 75 countries have initiated discussions with Washington to resolve disputes and avoid tariffs, China has not been among them, the White House noted.

The trade standoff has triggered global market instability. Equity markets in Asia, Europe, and the US have witnessed sharp declines amid fears of rising inflation and slowed economic growth. The Trump administration has maintained that the tariff moves are necessary to protect American industry and national security. President Trump has also reiterated his stance on applying matching tariffs to other trading partners, including India, insisting on fair treatment in global trade. While other nations are negotiating, the deadlock with China threatens to deepen an already tense economic standoff.

 

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Trump says US 'talking' to China on tariffs, adding 'Beijing have reached out a number of times'

Apr 18, 2025

Trump Tariffs Live Updates: China has warned it is "not afraid" of a trade war with the United States, calling instead for dialogue grounded in "equality, respect, and mutual benefit." The remarks from foreign ministry spokesperson Lin Jian came after US President Donald Trump asserted it was Beijing's responsibility to rejoin negotiations. The escalating tensions follow China’s retaliatory moves, which led to a tariff burden of up to 245% on its exports to the US—up from the earlier 145%, according to a White House fact sheet.

Trump has pushed ahead with his "Fair and Reciprocal Plan" to address trade imbalances and non-reciprocal agreements. A 10% baseline tariff now applies across the board, while individualised higher tariffs target nations with significant trade surpluses against the US, including China. Although 75 countries have initiated discussions with Washington to resolve disputes and avoid tariffs, China has not been among them, the White House noted.

The trade standoff has triggered global market instability. Equity markets in Asia, Europe, and the US have witnessed sharp declines amid fears of rising inflation and slowed economic growth. The Trump administration has maintained that the tariff moves are necessary to protect American industry and national security. President Trump has also reiterated his stance on applying matching tariffs to other trading partners, including India, insisting on fair treatment in global trade. While other nations are negotiating, the deadlock with China threatens to deepen an already tense economic standoff.

In other words, Trumputin is trying to find an off-ramp. LMFAO
 

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Trump raised tariffs to 245% and publicly invited China to initiate contact if they were interested in making a deal. In response, China announced that it would not engage in an escalating tariff war, stating that it would ignore any further tariff increases and refrain from retaliating. Subsequently, Trump claimed that China had reached out multiple times. For now, China's strategy appears to be one of patience, waiting as Trump potentially extends tariffs to other countries, which could trigger a wave of international resistance.

 

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For now, China's strategy appears to be one of patience, waiting as Trump potentially extends tariffs to other countries, which could trigger a wave of international resistance.

It shouldn't take too much patience on China's part to wait till we see
riots breaking out in major cities across the U.S. over missing or ultra-
expensive items on Walmart's nearly-empty shelves. Meanwhile China's
citizens are willingly tightening their belts. Most Chinese above the age
of 50 had experienced infinitely harshier conditions. They won't mind
taking the time needed to extract concessions from Trump.
 

Insidious Von

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Nobody will negotiated with The Supreme Being...this puts Putin and Orban in a bind.

Russia in particular is feeling the heat. After invading Ukraine, Putin lost Central Asia to the PRC, if he sucks face with Trump he'll Eastern Siberia outright. Orban supports Trump scheme to fracture the EU, however he's under pressure. The EU has already suspended transfer payments, if Orban sucks face with Trump he'll be given the bum's rush out of the EU.

As for Xi, he has the advantage. No negotiations, he'll fart in Trump's general direction. Trump will breathe deeply.

 

Insidious Von

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Do not commit blasphemy against The King of Kings. MAGAs are such snowf...er...devotees.

 
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