You are arguing against prima-facie copy and paste propaganda lie.Doing so only gives it credibility.
I am taking a different approach. Mocking the 'tard's. More fun and effective!
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You are arguing against prima-facie copy and paste propaganda lie.Doing so only gives it credibility.
I am taking a different approach. Mocking the 'tard's. More fun and effective!
Bakhmut was a Russian psychological warfare and physical trap which Ukrainian neoNazis and NeoNazis Zelensky fell for it . It was designed to be a meat grinder….They were demolished and destroyed the Russian Army . It was a meat grinder to design and wear out and kill Ukrainian best train NATO force! Facts are aprox 300, 000 thousands Ukrainian killed or wounded! Looking forward when this war be over by end of falls this year! When Ukrainian run out of amino and American won’t fund this 53 state or simply they run out of money and from GOP in Congress won’t supply any mor money!
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Yeah, sure Bruno! A Russian trap
To think that cartoonists knew the Russian mentality so well almost 60 years back shows what a predictable caricature Russians are.
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Holy guacamole!! Are you seriously saying Russia strategically sent almost half a million of their own people to die in Bakhmut over 10 months, to take less than 40 sq kms of rubble? This is the funniest logic (or lack thereof) that I have heard in favour of Russia. Are you also suggesting that the Ukrainians are worn out, when the only people who threatened to withdraw was Wagner? Prigozhin couldn't wait to hand over Bakhmut or what is left of it, to the Russian forces and high tail outta there!
Ukraine is losing 10,000 drones a month to Russian electronic-warfare systems that send fake signals and screw with their navigation, researchers say
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Ukraine is losing 10,000 drones a month to Russian electronic-warfare systems that send fake signals and screw with their navigation, researchers say
Mia Jankowicz
May 22, 2023, 7:33 AM EDT
Ukraine is losing 10,000 drones a month to Russian electronic-warfare systems that send fake signals and screw with their navigation, researchers say
Sophisticated electronic-warfare systems are contributing to the loss of about 300 Ukrainian drones a day, a new RUSI report found.
www.businessinsider.com
- A new report estimates Ukraine is losing roughly 10,000 drones every month.
- A sophisticated electronic-warfare system is among Russia's biggest strengths, researchers said.
- Ukraine "has the initiative" but Russia's army should not be written off, they added.
Electronic warfare is a "critical component" of Russia's tactics and contributing to the staggering losses of Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles, commonly known as drones, a report released Friday by the UK's Royal United Services Institute found.
The figures — which amount to more than 300 drones a day — were attributed to three unnamed Ukrainian officers interviewed in April and May.
The report did not specify which models comprised the claimed losses or in what proportion, but James Patton Rogers, a University of Southern Denmark war-studies professor and drone expert, told Insider the majority of those being lost were relatively cheap, small commercial drones used for surveillance.
The estimations indicate the unprecedented scale at which UAVs are being used in Ukraine, he said, adding that this was "one of the world's first drone vs. drone conflicts."
Patton Rogers said that while the figures were likely overestimated, they underlined just how effective Russia's electronic warfare had become at countering Ukraine's extensive use of drones.
The RUSI report said that along the roughly 750 miles of the conflict's front line, Russia maintained a major electronic-warfare system roughly every 6 miles. These are set back about 4 miles from the front and focused mainly on neutralizing drones, the report said.
Sophisticated Russian systems such as the Shipovnik-Aero jamming station are hard to detect and can imitate other signals, the researchers said.
"It also has a sophisticated range of effects for downing UAVs," they said, including interfering with navigational systems.
Ukraine fields a wide variety of drones, from small, commercial-grade UAVs often used for reconnaissance or as loitering munitions, up to the multimillion-dollar Bayraktar TB2, capable of taking out Russian tanks.
Drone warfare was a celebrated aspect of Ukraine's early success in holding back the Russian advance, prompting an official fundraising campaign — United24 — which was created to form a "drone army."
But by summer, it was clear that Russia's electronic-warfare and air-defense capabilities had ramped up, Insider's Alia Shoaib reported.
Frontline drone operators told The Guardian in April that one of the most popular models — the DJI commercial drone — was rapidly losing its effectiveness.
Nonetheless, Patton Rogers said, Ukraine is developing "its own resilient drone systems to fill this gap in capacity."
Overall, the RUSI researchers said that after the Russian army's "disaster" of a performance at the outset of the invasion, it had adapted to Ukraine's pushback, even as it continued to struggle with poor morale and effective use of heavy armor and air-force attacks.
"The result is a structure that becomes better over time at managing the problems it immediately faces but also one that struggles to anticipate new threats," the report said.
"Ukraine, today, has the initiative," it added. "But as the Russian military adapts, there can be no room for complacency."
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He's not saying anything. He seems to be methodically pasting canned desinformezia on tons of divisive, anti-west, anti-American issues. Check elsewhere in the Politics forum and you'll see the pattern.
I suspect Ukraine hasn't had 10,000 delivered to begin with! Now Russia is saying they take down that many per month?
About the only thing that is true is that Russia has powerful jammers.
About the only thing that is true is that Russia has powerful jammers.
I was thinking the same thing. Even America is unlikely to have that many
No read it again ! Bakhmut meat grinder trap was designed to kill Ukrainian army! Which Russian generals designed for that for Ukraine army! Ukraine die from a Russian constant attack from air attack and missile and constant rain of artillery shell rain down on them. This war is like World War II trench warfare of artillery bombardment! Russia have a 10 to 1 ratio of artillery to Ukrainian! And by summer end they Ukraine and NATO will run out of artillery shell! If you don’t believe me then google yourself on low stock of artillery shell and production of artillery shell by NATO countries.
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Business insider is a pro liberal newspaper and anti Putin or anti Russia newspaper!I was thinking the same thing. Even America is unlikely to have that many
That what they report, that what I posted. Note someone have to be lying either a pro NATO newspaper or a anti nato journalist or maybe it newspaper beginning to get fed up with this proxy war and start reporting the facts! Care about a possibly of a accidently nuclear holocaust by both nuclear superpowers !
At this stage in this proxy war I really don’t give a fuck who is right or wrong! Even if Russian is 100% wrong and Ukraine is 100% is right. Sometime a sacrifice is necessary for the good for all mankind or the rest world if it don’t come down to a nuclear holocaust!
Spare be the baloney excuse like Hitler if we don’t stop at Ukraine . Russian ( Putin) will redraw the Europe back to Soviet Union borders! Bottom line nuclear are the game changer ( MADD) .
This decades game changer is Russia hypersonic nuclear missile! They have the first strike upper hand! Also hypersonic nuclear missile make all American Aircart carriers obsolete .
And China have hypersonic missile too : (
You can google it yourself!
You can choose to belief Schlong antiPutin , prowar propaganda go ahead! I choose search out the truth myself!
I am ashamed that I support IRAQ WMD by NATO & by Bush & neocons & neolibs & MIC and by mainstream media in the past.
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A Russian soldier runs up to a nun. “Please let me hide under your dress, I’ll explain later”
The nun agrees. A moment later, two military policeman approach her and ask, “Sister, have you seen a soldier?” The nun replied, “He went that way” and off they went.
The soldier crawls out from under the dress and says, “I can’t thank you enough Sister. You see, I don’t want to go and fight in the Ukraine”
The nun replies, “I completely understand”
The soldier then adds, “I hope you don’t mind me saying, but you have a great pair of legs”
The nun replied, “If you’d have looked higher, you’d also have seen a great pair of balls too. I don’t want to go and fight in the Ukraine either”
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The nun agrees. A moment later, two military policeman approach her and ask, “Sister, have you seen a soldier?” The nun replied, “He went that way” and off they went.
The soldier crawls out from under the dress and says, “I can’t thank you enough Sister. You see, I don’t want to go and fight in the Ukraine”
The nun replies, “I completely understand”
The soldier then adds, “I hope you don’t mind me saying, but you have a great pair of legs”
The nun replied, “If you’d have looked higher, you’d also have seen a great pair of balls too. I don’t want to go and fight in the Ukraine either”
from Sickipedia.net
Once while someone will get fed up and start telling the truth.So according to your standards, they are not to be trusted!
When come to war or a proxy war , Truth or some of the truth will eventually come out or leak out when years later or decades later when the conflict ends!
Unfortunately nuke make the world a lot dangerous place …there no second chance for you and me or for the plebs. Meanswhile the important government’s official and families members and the important military personnel are safe in a bunker. And the billionaire have their private safe bunker from nuclear holcoast!
PS. Once the nuclear genie is released…there no coming back or a reset button for rest of us plebs.
Appears like Lukashenko has been sampling some of Vlad's special "tea"....
Will know come end of this year when Ukraine conficts come to the end when the Ukraine army run out of amino and money! Then will see who will eat crow. Either you or me! I firmly believe it you! When you lose you will probably stay quiet and stop posting about Ukraine in Terb for a long time!Yeah, yeah peace-loving vatnik... your concerns for humanity are duly noted.
Yeah yeah... whaddabout your dire, certain, prediction of all the factories in the world stopping production because Russia would bomb Odessa so badly that neon gas refinement woudl STOP semi-conductor production.
You are already so full of crow!
Oversupply of semiconductor that have happened! In Business , there is a supply and demand curve ! Demand drop off due to covid19 shutdown in China “World factories” ! And in USA & EU demand fell due to inflation and possibly of recession !
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Saw an actual video of that from the Ukrainian side(for all of you russophobes). The Uki operators were very impressed with the Russian (Chinese?) hardware and software that is capable of commandeering the opposite drone and bringing it down without crashing. Of course the Ukrainians started booby trapping the larger drones to prevent them from being captured. This is certainly a new developed in warfare as neither side is moving without having their drones overhead as scouts. Not a new development, but certainly new on the squad level.Ukraine is losing 10,000 drones a month to Russian electronic-warfare systems that send fake signals and screw with their navigation, researchers say
HOME MILITARY & DEFENSE
Ukraine is losing 10,000 drones a month to Russian electronic-warfare systems that send fake signals and screw with their navigation, researchers say
Mia Jankowicz
May 22, 2023, 7:33 AM EDT
Ukraine is losing 10,000 drones a month to Russian electronic-warfare systems that send fake signals and screw with their navigation, researchers say
Sophisticated electronic-warfare systems are contributing to the loss of about 300 Ukrainian drones a day, a new RUSI report found.
A new assessment of Russia's military capabilities on the front line estimated that its forces were taking down about 10,000 Ukrainian drones every month.
- A new report estimates Ukraine is losing roughly 10,000 drones every month.
- A sophisticated electronic-warfare system is among Russia's biggest strengths, researchers said.
- Ukraine "has the initiative" but Russia's army should not be written off, they added.
Electronic warfare is a "critical component" of Russia's tactics and contributing to the staggering losses of Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles, commonly known as drones, a report released Friday by the UK's Royal United Services Institute found.
The figures — which amount to more than 300 drones a day — were attributed to three unnamed Ukrainian officers interviewed in April and May.
The report did not specify which models comprised the claimed losses or in what proportion, but James Patton Rogers, a University of Southern Denmark war-studies professor and drone expert, told Insider the majority of those being lost were relatively cheap, small commercial drones used for surveillance.
The estimations indicate the unprecedented scale at which UAVs are being used in Ukraine, he said, adding that this was "one of the world's first drone vs. drone conflicts."
Patton Rogers said that while the figures were likely overestimated, they underlined just how effective Russia's electronic warfare had become at countering Ukraine's extensive use of drones.
The RUSI report said that along the roughly 750 miles of the conflict's front line, Russia maintained a major electronic-warfare system roughly every 6 miles. These are set back about 4 miles from the front and focused mainly on neutralizing drones, the report said.
Sophisticated Russian systems such as the Shipovnik-Aero jamming station are hard to detect and can imitate other signals, the researchers said.
"It also has a sophisticated range of effects for downing UAVs," they said, including interfering with navigational systems.
Ukraine fields a wide variety of drones, from small, commercial-grade UAVs often used for reconnaissance or as loitering munitions, up to the multimillion-dollar Bayraktar TB2, capable of taking out Russian tanks.
Drone warfare was a celebrated aspect of Ukraine's early success in holding back the Russian advance, prompting an official fundraising campaign — United24 — which was created to form a "drone army."
But by summer, it was clear that Russia's electronic-warfare and air-defense capabilities had ramped up, Insider's Alia Shoaib reported.
Frontline drone operators told The Guardian in April that one of the most popular models — the DJI commercial drone — was rapidly losing its effectiveness.
Nonetheless, Patton Rogers said, Ukraine is developing "its own resilient drone systems to fill this gap in capacity."
Overall, the RUSI researchers said that after the Russian army's "disaster" of a performance at the outset of the invasion, it had adapted to Ukraine's pushback, even as it continued to struggle with poor morale and effective use of heavy armor and air-force attacks.
"The result is a structure that becomes better over time at managing the problems it immediately faces but also one that struggles to anticipate new threats," the report said.
"Ukraine, today, has the initiative," it added. "But as the Russian military adapts, there can be no room for complacency."
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