UNSC passes resolution demanding end to Israel Settlement building on occupied land

Frankfooter

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Fuji, if you have the money, send me enough money for a plane ticket and accomodations for a long stay in one of the settlments near gaza. I will take holiday there. I have higher odds of dying from an auto acident there than from rockets. I am serious, if you can pony up the money, I will go there and provide you with a great set of photos as proof.

Also, if you have a son about 10 years old, and you can provide me with high quality body armor and a helmet. I will give you son a free rock shot on me. I am guessing 10-20 meters is the right distance for the rock to travel when thrown.

In return though, I want your house. Seems like a fair trade to me, I have to live through the horrors of being exposed to rocket attacks, I also get assulted by a deadly weapon and all I get is a home in return. I am willing to get the short stick of that deal bro.
Ideally, we could send fuji on a hasbara trip to Israel then claim his home while he's gone.
Then we'd pay off the local government to claim that he doesn't own it and a distant relative of yours did.

Really, if you want to look at the daily horror of life under fuji's favourite apartheid rule and live in the open air prison of Gaza, a good place to start is the weekly reports from the Palestinian Centre for Human Rights.
http://pchrgaza.org/en/?p=8639

Israeli forces continued to use excessive force in the oPt
A Palestinian boy was killed at Za’tara checkpoint, south of Nablus, and another civilian was killed in occupied Jerusalem.
An activist was wounded in al-Eisawiya village, north of Jerusalem.
Israeli forces conducted 56 incursions into Palestinian communities in the West Bank and 10 ones in occupied Jerusalem.
76 civilians, including 13 children and a journalist, were arrested.
Twenty-three of them, including 11 children and the journalist, were arrested in occupied Jerusalem.
Birzait University was raided and belongings of student unions were confiscated.
Israeli forces continued to target Palestinian fishermen in the Gaza Strip Sea.
Israeli forces continued their efforts to create Jewish majority in occupied East Jerusalem.
2 families were obliged to self-demolish parts of a 3-storey building in Silwan village, south of the city.
A residential barrack, a storage barrack and a commercial facility were demolished in Sour Baher under the pretext they were close to the annexation wall.
3 NGOs were raided; a musical activity in one of them was banned and PC sets were confiscated from another.
Settlement activities continued in the West Bank.
Settlers cut off 190 olive trees in Termis’ya village, northeast of Ramallah.
Israeli forces turned the West Bank into cantons and continued to impose the illegal closure on the Gaza Strip for the 9th
Dozens of temporary checkpoints were established in the West Bank and others were re-established to obstruct the movement of Palestinian civilians.
7 Palestinian civilians, including 2 children, were arrested at military checkpoints.




Summary

Israeli violations of international law and international humanitarian law in the oPt continued during the reporting period (08 – 14 December 2016).
That's a typical, or even quiet, week.
Its really quite disgusting.
 

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Mike Huckabee has some strong words for Obama’s recent back-stabbing act towards Israel. As he says, “This is not about Democrats, Republicans. Left, right. This is about right and wrong. This is about evil, good.” Such strong and supportive words. He ACTUALLY gets it! He does’t even want to call Israeli communities “settlements” because that undermines the fact that the land has been Jewish Land for thousands of years! God gave the Jewish People the Land of Israel! You can’t argue with that.
 

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Mike Huckabee has some strong words for Obama’s recent back-stabbing act towards Israel. As he says, “This is not about Democrats, Republicans. Left, right. This is about right and wrong. This is about evil, good.” Such strong and supportive words. He ACTUALLY gets it! He does’t even want to call Israeli communities “settlements” because that undermines the fact that the land has been Jewish Land for thousands of years! God gave the Jewish People the Land of Israel! You can’t argue with that.

This message brought to you by the Meir Kahane Foundation and Nuts 'r' Us.
 

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Fuji, if you have the money, send me enough money for a plane ticket and accomodations for a long stay in one of the settlments near gaza. I will take holiday there. I have higher odds of dying from an auto acident there than from rockets. I am serious, if you can pony up the money, I will go there and provide you with a great set of photos as proof.

Also, if you have a son about 10 years old, and you can provide me with high quality body armor and a helmet. I will give you son a free rock shot on me. I am guessing 10-20 meters is the right distance for the rock to travel when thrown.

In return though, I want your house. Seems like a fair trade to me, I have to live through the horrors of being exposed to rocket attacks, I also get assulted by a deadly weapon and all I get is a home in return. I am willing to get the short stick of that deal bro.

Comical, but true..
 

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When you say "because they do not kill many people", what you should have said was "is that because they kill no people".
Rockets do kill people and it forces thousands of people to plan their day based on where the nearest shelter is. The only reason Hamas has been restricting rocket launches lately is they don't feel ready to go to war with Israel again.


Those 10km rockets never reach 10km.
During the last conflict Hamas rockets targeted Haifa which is over 100 km from Gaza. Almost all of Israel is within range of Gana rockets. A DMZ in such a small country is ridiculous.

Israel annexing more land is something Palestinians have no counter to,....
Israel is not annexing land. I agree that building in the settlements does not encourage peace but they are only homes. Unlike the dead from Palestinian terror attacks, houses and settlements can be undone (or be part of land swaps).

As I see it, the PA is looking to use the UN so they don't have to make any compromises. Olmert's offer was THE offer and completely in line with the UN statements, the Quarter, and the Arab League plan but Abbas walked away. Of course there is also Hamas to consider and they openly refuse to even accept the concept of negotiations.
 

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Israel continues to arm settlers and to blur the lines between civilian and militant.
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From the article:
to protect their settlements

Who do you think they have to protect themselves from and why do you think Jews protecting themselves is wrong?


Sadly you are just looking for another excuse to consider Jews in the West Bank to be valid targets.
 

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God gave the Jewish People the Land of Israel! You can’t argue with that.
Religious wingnuts that think their invisible person in the sky also delivers real estate are prime material for arguments.
Even kookier then Jehovah's witnesses, in my book.
 

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Because motherfucker, if you continue to build more and more in the west bank, rockets will be comming from the west bank again. ...
Disgustingly you seem to think terror rockets are justified by building homes.
 

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Disgustingly you seem to think terror rockets are justified by building homes.
I see, so the illegal theft of land, colonization and apartheid rule is just a minor crime which you think deserves no punishment while you think the only crime that needs to be punished is the use of poorly aimed, home made rockets, which as you have noted, have not been fired by Hamas in the last couple of years.
 

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Fuji, if you have the money, send me enough money for a plane ticket and accomodations for a long stay in one of the settlments near gaza. I will take holiday there. I have higher odds of dying from an auto acident there than from rockets. I am serious, if you can pony up the money, I will go there and provide you with a great set of photos as proof.

Also, if you have a son about 10 years old, and you can provide me with high quality body armor and a helmet. I will give you son a free rock shot on me. I am guessing 10-20 meters is the right distance for the rock to travel when thrown.

In return though, I want your house. Seems like a fair trade to me, I have to live through the horrors of being exposed to rocket attacks, I also get assulted by a deadly weapon and all I get is a home in return. I am willing to get the short stick of that deal bro.
Again there are no rockets near the settlements. You seem to have no idea what you are talking about. The West Bank and Gaza are far from one another. Look at a map. The rockets hit Israel proper near the Gaza border. When Hamas is able to get missiles from Iran they can reach TeL Aviv. Still nowhere near the settlements.

All you do here is justify attacks on Jewish families.

There is no reason they should face a single attack. Not one. There's no level of acceptable terrorism.
 

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Well then how the fuck is it that only 8 rockets got fired from gaza in 2016? Is the IDF there on the ground?

If the west bank wants to fire rockets, it will fire rockets. If Hamas wants to fire rockets from gaza it will fire rockets. Rockets are not fired because they are not effective, hamas knows that, fatah knows that, Israel also knows that. Except on TV, on TV Israel and Hamas pretend not to know that.
The reason only a smaller number got fired in the past year is IDF beat the snot out of Hamas in the Gaza war and Hamas was eventually forced to sign a truce.
 

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Religious wingnuts that think their invisible person in the sky also delivers real estate are prime material for arguments.
Even kookier then Jehovah's witnesses, in my book.
Let's be clear that it's Hamas and Islamic Jihad who think that way and that it's Palestinians who went on a stabbing campaign because the man in the sky told them not to share the Temple Mount with others.

Lots of Zionists are secular.
 

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I see, so the illegal theft of land, colonization and apartheid rule is just a minor crime which you think deserves no punishment while you think the only crime that needs to be punished is the use of poorly aimed, home made rockets, which as you have noted, have not been fired by Hamas in the last couple of years.
Your non stop lies like "apartheid" just show you to be a dishonest extremist.
 

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Contradiction in terms. Groan.
Nope. Zionism has always been a secular movement. You just know nothing beyond what your extremist anti-Semitic hate sites feed you. Call the ayatollah's and tell him you need remedial education on Israel.
 

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I will admit from the outset that I have not read the first six pages of this thread since I fully expect that they are a re-hash of the 20,000 or so that preceded it. As in other political issues I find myself in the middle - too far left or right depending on your political reference. I believe in the rights of Israel and their need for security to live without the threat of attack but I also find Israel has placed it's interests of peace behind the desire for territorial expansion. They have leveraged US political support to ignore expansion of settlements and other anti-Palestinian state measures by standard UN veto although the US has expressed criticism in private.

To those who suggest Obama is anti-Israel - I would like that he recently signed a bill pledging $38 billion dollars over 10 years to support the Israeli military. He is frustrated and free of political influences so he decided to send a little warning. Samantha Powers is the UN ambassador and gave a short discussion on why the US didn't veto or support the bill. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB3Z8TPLOQU

I like Samantha Powers - she was had some great debates against the Russians over Aleppo. Anyways in this longer expansion of the Veto explanation - she berates the UN security council for ignoring arms trade that are being used against civilians but polarised against Israel. She also tackles Palestinian politician blind eye towards terrorists as another barrier to peace. Sadly a couple MSNBC blowhards interrupt but move ahead for the balance of her statement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNZj9hcquq4
 
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