Unwritten Rules of the Road
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Redundancy is safer. If only one hand is steering and something happens to knock it off the wheel… Where are you driving that two hand turning is too slow? A demo derby?Yoga Face said:
But thanks for letting us know your technique. Care to share your license number so we can clear out of yr way?
I want to be a safe a driver as possible but you areoldjones said:
assuming and assuming could make you a worse driver !
I suppose you mean an accident will knock your hand off the wheel (what else could a bump or dip in the road won't)
I still cannot see the reasoning for two hands on the wheel it is less relaxing and driving can be stressful enough
Possible reasons are it may keep you from getting too relaxed and allow you to respond quicker to an emergency but I would like to see the evidence for that.
It may make you respond slower for reasons unclear
Lab studies should be done
oldjones said:
Not 2 hand turning but hand to hand where you slide one hand along the wheel until it touches the other one then the other hand slides (instead of hand over hand)
The only reason for hand to hand turning that I can see is it forces you to turn slower so it may have value if you are that kind of driver
Hand to hand always has two hands on the wheel. Redundancy again; it's safer.
What you, O Perfect Driver, really have to worry about is the Other Guy—this is just one of many threads about how dumb he is—and two hands on the wheel give you twice the chances of one when he does something stupid and hits you.
Never mind your misplaced confidence in the condition of our roads.
And no one ever runs out from between cars.
And deer always honk and flash their lights before crossing roads at night.
Tires never blow.
No one ever slams on their brakes in front of you.
And power steering never fails, not even in accidents.
On
and
on.
And driving instructors just make this stuff up 'cause they're bored.
But you drive the way you want, just if it's on the road we all share, your license number is…?
What you, O Perfect Driver, really have to worry about is the Other Guy—this is just one of many threads about how dumb he is—and two hands on the wheel give you twice the chances of one when he does something stupid and hits you.
Never mind your misplaced confidence in the condition of our roads.
And no one ever runs out from between cars.
And deer always honk and flash their lights before crossing roads at night.
Tires never blow.
No one ever slams on their brakes in front of you.
And power steering never fails, not even in accidents.
On
and
on.
And driving instructors just make this stuff up 'cause they're bored.
But you drive the way you want, just if it's on the road we all share, your license number is…?
No need to get insulting oldjonesoldjones said:
You seem to say two hands are better in an emergency which is what I said
but I also say it is an assumption and assumptions are often wrong
Perhaps the hand not on the wheel will get to where you want it to go just as quick if not quicker than if it was on the wheel in a position that you need to change, for example
I agree what you say seems like common sense but common sense is quite often wrong so keep an open mind
I appreciate your constructive criticism but I repeat
Where are the lab studies ?
Lisa of Toronto said:
Who was the dude that rear ended you and then did a hit and run??
Ohh! BTW. Are we talking about SP activities or driving on the road????
That's not exactly true, you have to loosen your grip to move the hand positions in order to complete the hand to hand turns....unless of course you have spaghetti arms that can twist around with the wheel......oldjones said:
C'mon everyone, let's get back on track here. So... someone was saying how those slants are real whack jobs behind the wheel...tboy said:
Check this out - crazy! Amazing no-one crashes.opieshuffle said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dqibvh96Og
From watching mythbusters, when the airbag deploys with your hands at 10 and 2 your arms are forced up and out... not towards your head. (This seems right to me as when I'm driving 10/2 my elbows are not directly below my wrists which is where they'd need to be to get popped towards my face)tboy said:
Only time the dummy's hand hit his face was when they put it on the centre of the wheel (on top of the airbag)
The point of palm to palm is that you are always holding the wheel, even if you are letting it slide through one hand so you could grab ahold of it faster than going hand over hand.tboy said:
That being said I usually go hand over hand.
one good reason I hadn't seen posted yet...Yoga Face said:
- if you are going around a curve and your hand slips you might not have enough time to grab ahold of it in time to stay on the road. And even if you do grab it you might not be able to turn it enough to stay on the road since you probably had already pushed your hand over in the direction of the turn in the first place.
and I disagree that the only reason for using two hands in the past was the lack of power steering.... having a spare hand at the right time can be very valuable.
Bzzzzt. Nope, but thanks for playing.Yoga Face said:
You have obviously never driven in England, where Power Steering is common, and turning quickly and safely is critical.
Apparently, safety is the key word, as has been clearly laid out throughout this thread. Maybe it isn't important to you, but it is important to everyone else you have to share the road with.
Stop signs and speed limits --- not just a suggestion.
When I activate my blinker in flowing traffic it's to signal a lane change -- It is NOT a request for you to accelerate into my lanespace. No wonder so many people change lanes without signalling.
If I am approaching a sudden lane closure and signal a last minute lane change, let me change lanes. Do not accelerate and trap me. Thats a 'dick' move and eventually I will reach a point in my life where I have stopped caring enough, or simply snap and cut you off for spite at yours and my own peril, likely maiming or killing us both.
TTC bus drivers: Do not leave a bus bay with a passenger waving you down at your doors. I will (and have many many many times), cut you off and stop you in live traffic and honk repeatedly until your passenger catches on and boards the vehicle. TTC bus stops are unsafe places most of the time. Noone wants to stand there longer than necessary.
Cross walks blinking? Obey! Stop! Always! do not proceed until the pedestrian has stepped on to the curb on the other side. They may have passed your lanespace but some dork watching you might not notice the pedestrian in their lanespeace and run them down. Pedestrian just playing or messing with you? Stop anyway. Doesn't take long to realize it and go again.
Emergency vehicles coming up behind you? Pull the fuck over and stop. Stay pulled over until they pass. That could be YOUR friend or relative they are trying to rescue.
When I activate my blinker in flowing traffic it's to signal a lane change -- It is NOT a request for you to accelerate into my lanespace. No wonder so many people change lanes without signalling.
If I am approaching a sudden lane closure and signal a last minute lane change, let me change lanes. Do not accelerate and trap me. Thats a 'dick' move and eventually I will reach a point in my life where I have stopped caring enough, or simply snap and cut you off for spite at yours and my own peril, likely maiming or killing us both.
TTC bus drivers: Do not leave a bus bay with a passenger waving you down at your doors. I will (and have many many many times), cut you off and stop you in live traffic and honk repeatedly until your passenger catches on and boards the vehicle. TTC bus stops are unsafe places most of the time. Noone wants to stand there longer than necessary.
Cross walks blinking? Obey! Stop! Always! do not proceed until the pedestrian has stepped on to the curb on the other side. They may have passed your lanespace but some dork watching you might not notice the pedestrian in their lanespeace and run them down. Pedestrian just playing or messing with you? Stop anyway. Doesn't take long to realize it and go again.
Emergency vehicles coming up behind you? Pull the fuck over and stop. Stay pulled over until they pass. That could be YOUR friend or relative they are trying to rescue.
LOL you're reading my mind dude. This is why I don't signal until I'm ready to actually do my maneuver. It is getting to the point where it is like the other drivers think: hey if HE wants to be there there must be something better to had by ME being there so I'm gonna be there first!
This is true, BUT I would like to add: if you are in the lane that has to merge, and the vehicle next to you is slightly ahead of you, go BEHIND him, not in front. Since the written rule of the road is that the vehicle in the travelling lane has right of way over merging traffic.
Same goes for onramps: if there is space behind a car already in the travelling lane, don't try and squeeze in front of them, move over behind them. Oh and ACCELERATE to the current traffic speed before moving over. DON"T pull in front doing 60 kph if the traffic is cruising at 100....
