Washington Post: Clinton campaign, DNC paid for research that led to Russia dossier

[oldjones]

THE ISSUE HERE IS

They used the dossier to obtain a FISA warrant, to SPY on a political opponent. That is HIGHLY ILLEGAL!

THAT'S THE STORY!!

No. Political campaigns don't get FISA warrants. They handed the dossier to the appropriate authorities who took the responsible actions they are required by law to do when they have such information.

Indeed it would be illegal, if it happened, but you made all that up.

 

[SuperCharge]

No. Political campaigns don't get FISA warrants. They handed the dossier to the appropriate authorities who took the responsible actions they are required by law to do when they have such information.

Indeed it would be illegal, if it happened, but you made all that up.

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Bahahahahahahahahahahaha. You are slowly figuring it out!

Yes, Obama's FBI. You know, the SAME FBI who usurped the DOJ (after it was made public Billy & Lynch were in cahoots) and let Clinton off the hook?! The same FBI who had made a decision to let her off the hook, well before even questioning anyone?

This was a planned methodical quest that was based on a guaranteed Hillary win where all would remain buried... make no mistake

But the best part? They used a fake dossier to SPY ON A POLITICAL OPPONENT and STILL LOST!!!
:whoo:
ROTFLMAO

 

[oldjones]

The issue isn't that the Dems paid an investigator to look into Trump.

The issue is that the whole Russian "collusion" nonsense and all of the suggestive leaks to the media were driven by partisans on the losing side -- exactly what some of us were saying last summer. It was never a matter of national security.

The Dems lied about the fact that they were the source behind the dossier and were, in fact, the real source of this whole fake news "collusion" story.

You're almost right: The real issue is the Collusion Story. It was a Story, and it still is because no one has enough facts yet to say who did what or didn't except about trivial bits that can't yet be put together to make a case, or even an argument. Still just a Story.

But largely thanks to the Tweeter-in-Chief and his short-attention span claque the whole concept of waiting until all the facts are known before passing judgment has pretty much been starved to death. What's replaced it is a race to see who will first publish the most extreme conclusion drawn from the least possible information.

And whatever the truth is, it'll be buried in the shouted lies and hysterical half-truths of the knee jerks. They won't even do the grade-school stuff like spell it right. Covfefe!

 

[SuperCharge]

You're almost right: The real issue is the Collusion Story. It was a Story, and it still is because no one has enough facts yet to say who did what or didn't except about trivial bits that can't yet be put together to make a case, or even an argument. Still just a Story.

But largely thanks to the Tweeter-in-Chief and his short-attention span claque the whole concept of waiting until all the facts are known before passing judgment has pretty much been starved to death. What's replaced it is a race to see who will first publish the most extreme conclusion drawn from the least possible information.

They won't even do the grade-school stuff like spell it right. Covfefe!

The story is a fable LOL.

Where is your collusion? House And Senate committees already closed their investigation, NO COLLUSION.

But..Just to make it fun!

Let's wait on Mueller, the same guy who helped HIDE the uranium one scandal lol.

Covfefe - Ha! Sometimes you do make me laugh OJ. I could use a nice cup of covfefe right now.

 

[Frankfooter]

The story is a fable LOL.

Where is your collusion? House And Senate committees already closed their investigation, NO COLLUSION.

But..Just to make it fun!

Let's wait on Mueller, the same guy who helped HIDE the uranium one scandal lol.

Covfefe - Ha! Sometimes you do make me laugh OJ. I could use a nice cup of covfefe right now.

Collusion?
Nothing happening here....
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...rump-administration-delaying-russia-sanctions

 

[oldjones]

The story is a fable LOL.

Where is your collusion? House And Senate committees already closed their investigation, NO COLLUSION.

But..Just to make it fun!

Let's wait on Mueller, the same guy who helped HIDE the uranium one scandal lol.

Covfefe - Ha! Sometimes you do make me laugh OJ. I could use a nice cup of covfefe right now.

Some folks do better with less cavfeine, not more. Stay cool.

 

[toguy5252]

In many ways this is the heart of the matter.

In every way this is just a distraction. Does it make a difference to you whether or not the allegations contained in the dossier are true?

 

[toguy5252]

I'm thinking Bush Family. They had the money and connections.

I think the smart money is on Cruz. Time may tell. Maybe about the same time Trump releases his tax returns.

 

[toguy5252]

Lol. That's a nice little attempt at a twist. Fusion received information from Russian spy agencies for the purpose of affecting the election.

If what they did was above board why refuse to cooperate with the fbi and take the Fifth.

Seems Trump Jr turned over all requested documents and answered all questions.

So why not FUSION?

Fusion was originally commissioned by a GOP candidate. When that candidate did not secure the nomination the Dems took over. i do not believe there is any indication as to what information was collected during whose time.

 

[Frankfooter]

Fusion was originally commissioned by a GOP candidate. When that candidate did not secure the nomination the Dems took over. i do not believe there is any indication as to what information was collected during whose time.

And since this was a secret report funded by both the dems and GOP, it looks more non-partisan then any other report.
Its just both of the parties checking to see what skeletons were in Trump's closets and which ones he peed on.

Perhaps we'll find more out from Mueller, when the time comes.

 

[Butler1000]

Fusion was originally commissioned by a GOP candidate. When that candidate did not secure the nomination the Dems took over. i do not believe there is any indication as to what information was collected during whose time.

But Chris Steele was not brought on board until 2 months after the Dems took it over. So the Dossier is pretty much compiled under their watch.

 

[Butler1000]

And now I just saw on my CNN app that John Podesta and Debbi Wasserman had previously testified to Congress they had no knowledge of the dossier.

In other words they lied to Congress. Which is an illegal act.

This is getting better and better.

 

[toguy5252]

And now I just saw on my CNN app that John Podesta and Debbi Wasserman had previously testified to Congress they had no knowledge of the dossier.

In other words they lied to Congress. Which is an illegal act.

This is getting better and better.

And I assume that the fact that the intelligence agencies have confirmed the accuracy of some of the allegations is irrelevant to you. And for that the matter the truth of these or any allegations regarding Trump.

 

[toguy5252]

But Chris Steele was not brought on board until 2 months after the Dems took it over. So the Dossier is pretty much compiled under their watch.

Part of the dossier was compiled after the DNC stopped funding. I am not sure that we know what parts were comiled by who. In any event all of this is a distraction. The important question which the Trumpsters would like to distract from is whether any of the allegations are true. The intelligence agencies have already confirmed some.

 

[Butler1000]

Part of the dossier was compiled after the DNC stopped funding. I am not sure that we know what parts were comiled by who. In any event all of this is a distraction. The important question which the Trumpsters would like to distract from is whether any of the allegations are true. The intelligence agencies have already confirmed some.

It was some Republicans that started it. Then ended it once Trump had the nom. Then Fusion shopped it to the DNC and Hillary who picked it up. 2 months later Steele was hired to use his Russia connections. This has been confirmed.

The only things confirmed in the dossier are that meeting took place and information was exchanged. The veracity of any actual content has not.

What's important now is that the collusion is shifting. FUSION GPS is at the centre of both the DNC hack and the dossier.

And the Dems are the paymasters.

 

[Moviefan-2]

And now I just saw on my CNN app that John Podesta and Debbi Wasserman had previously testified to Congress they had no knowledge of the dossier.

In other words they lied to Congress. Which is an illegal act.

This is getting better and better.

It's impossible to keep track of all the lies in this tangled web, but here are some that come to top of mind:

- The Democrats lied about how the information was obtained.

- They lied about the fact they paid for it.

- At least some of them lied when they claimed the contents in the report were part of intelligence investigations into national security (the Clinton campaign was not an intelligence agency).

- The dossier was used to allow intelligence officials in the Obama administration to spy on the Trump campaign. Yet the Democrats were deceitful -- if not outright lying -- about the spying that occurred.

- They lied about the fact that they unmasked the information, guaranteeing it would get leaked to the media.

 

[Frankfooter]

It's impossible to keep track of all the lies in this tangled web, but here are some that come to top of mind:

- The Democrats lied about how the information was obtained.

- They lied about the fact they paid for it.

- At least some of them lied when they claimed the contents in the report were part of intelligence investigations into national security (the Clinton campaign was not an intelligence agency).

- The dossier was used to allow intelligence officials in the Obama administration to spy on the Trump campaign. Yet the Democrats were deceitful -- if not outright lying -- about the spying that occurred.

- They lied about the fact that they unmasked the information, guaranteeing it would get leaked to the media.

Maybe, but at least they didn't collude with the Russians to cheat the election.
Go Mueller Go!

 

[Moviefan-2]

Maybe, but at least they didn't collude with the Russians to cheat the election.

I guess you missed the news about the uranium contracts. So far, the only real evidence of collusion with the Kremlin involves the Obama administration and the Clinton Foundation (and Mueller, for that matter).

As for the Democrats' concoctions about the Trump campaign and the Russians, the Democrats' lies and ongoing deceit pretty much confirm the whole thing is fake news.

 

[Frankfooter]

I guess you missed the news about the uranium contracts.

The uranium contracts?
That story is a joke.
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin...r-claim-donald-trump-says-hillary-clinton-ga/

It only works on people like you who can't do basic research.

 

[Butler1000]

Maybe, but at least they didn't collude with the Russians to cheat the election.
Go Mueller Go!

Obtaining information from from Russian intelligence for the purpose of smearing an opponent isn't collusion?

It's just that the information was false about Trump.

That's what you won't admit. The Russians sent out misinformation to everyone. They even set up a fake BLM Facebook acct and sold merchandise.

How is it you think they were responsible for all the fake news feeds but will think this information is credible us beyond me.