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when is a hunger strike not a hunger strike when you consume broth all day

LKD

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Only in your opinion, as I said look it up, or better yet try.
gone are the days when people went on hunger strike to actually bring about change, with no fear of getting sick or dying... well. .that rarely happens in North America. We still see brave people willing to die in parts of Tibet, even India.
 

username999

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I sure would like to see where the $500,000 comes from because I know the claim $100,000 is bogus, having seen copies of the correspondences, receipt and the cheques involved in the purchase and the report on the true source for the money; not the education fund as reported.
Really? Can you back any of those claims up with copies of the documents? I suspect not. If you are arguing that there is no fraud, waste and mismanagement in the Indian industry then you are seriously delusional.

Sorry, my mistake, the Zamboni and rink cost $140,000 together. The Zamboni was only $70,000.

http://www.torontosun.com/2011/12/02/crisis-of-management
 

blackrock13

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gone are the days when people went on hunger strike to actually bring about change, with no fear of getting sick or dying... well. .that rarely happens in North America. We still see brave people willing to die in parts of Tibet, even India.
and when exactly were those good old days?
 

username999

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The Indian Act needs an overhaul. It is a horrible act and the large sums of money we pump into reserves aren't doing any good.

The native theatrics don't help and their demands amount to "increase our allowance please" but there is a real problem that needs a real solution.

We need to move away from a centrally planned welfare approach to native issues towards investment that builds communities and creates opportunities.
Yes - it's called private property rights and giving them the same rights and responsibilities as every other Canadian. We can't continue this racism and justify it with good intentions.
 

wigglee

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The Idle No More thing may prove a real test for Harper. If he handles this poorly we could see violence, even terrorism here in Canada.
 

dirkd101

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The plight of the poor native American, or the First Nations. It's time for a full overhaul of the old "Act" and in with the new. There is nothing holding you back now and there hasn't been for some time, except for a welfare lifestyle. There are successful reserves and unsuccessful and it is high time outside management comes in to turn these unsuccessful ones around. I have been on both and have seen with my own eyes the good and the bad. The good aside, everyone lives comfortably, enjoy work, school and their native heritage. The bad is all that is bad in society, people profiting and enjoying luxuries others can only dream of, while their own live in squander. Waste that is unfathomable to imagine.
Out with the bad and in with some business savvy, pro bono work from the outside to help straighten out this mess.

No more excuses, no more bullshit.
 

Eddie401

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The AFN may be a little unfocused right now as was the Occupy movement last year but that is still no excuse for Harpo and company to behave as they are. The Department of Indian Affairs has full oversight on the money that is disbursed. They are primarily responsible for the mis-spending that is going on.

Regarding money being paid to family members, remember these communities are relatively small and isolated. So it would be pretty difficult not to employ a relative at some point or other.

Everything to do with aboriginal affairs in Canada is a disgrace and needs to be resolved. The last attempt to do so was the Charlottetown Accord in 1992 - that's 20 years ago!
There's an assumption here that aboriginals are not capable of taking care of their own. That's soft bigotry and only traps FN in a web of their own making. Some bands are managed very well by aboriginals and financially are holding up fine. To assume that Chief Spence's incompetence and dishonesty applies to all aboriginals is not supporting the FN cause...quite the contrary. First step to resolving this is FN leaders need to suck it up and own this problem rather than blaming the Feds, the white man, Sir John A.., etc., etc., etc.
 

Eddie401

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After being on a so called hunger strike for over a month I cannot see any weight loss at all on spence. she is still fat as ever.

she is the biggest fraud in more ways than one, and has become a joke.
The part that rarely get's mentioned in the papers is the fruit juice. That's food. Liquid food perhaps, but food, high enough in calories that people trying to lose weight are told to abstain. She is doing more harm than good with her shenanigans. Spence is not about FN, she's all about Spence.
 

blackrock13

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There's an assumption here that aboriginals are not capable of taking care of their own. That's soft bigotry and only traps FN in a web of their own making. Some bands are managed very well by aboriginals and financially are holding up fine. To assume that Chief Spence's incompetence and dishonesty applies to all aboriginals is not supporting the FN cause...quite the contrary. First step to resolving this is FN leaders need to suck it up and own this problem rather than blaming the Feds, the white man, Sir John A.., etc., etc., etc.
You were doing quite well until you appear to try and get the white guys in Ottawa off the hook. There is enough blame on both sides to go around. It's been known since the late 60's by some inside the then INA Ministries, that many of the Native claims and greivances had merit, and should have been addressed back, saving millions, bit nope.
 

Eddie401

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It is amazing for someone to have nearly 1000 posts per month, and all of his Google research to come up with information to stir the pot, and he is not here for the principal purpose of the community. He is not alone, Rockslinger, petzel et al, but he is by far the most prolific. I could not imagine being on terb if my principle reason was not hobbying.
My guess is that some of these super-high-post-count non-hobbyist trolls like to a) argue and b) read the reviews and touch themselves.

I stepped in it a couple of times before I figured it out. Every post starts with either an insult or if you call them on it switches to passive-aggressive insults, word-twisting. Then it ticks you off and now you're doing the same all over the place. I just don't have the free time to go back and forth with someone like that. I work for a living and can't be part of someone's weird debate-porn fetish.

Before you seriously engage someone that has that many posts and is probably a virgin, take a moment to reflect on the level of anger and sadness someone must have to live that life and just walk away. If enough people take that approach maybe they'll go outside or even see an SP and work some stuff out, the level of discourse on the board will rise about 500%.

Don't feed the pigeons and they will fly away.
 

dcbogey

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It's a condition outlined and agreed upon in the 80 page Indian act, and to a lesser degree other treaties, written many years ago. Yes, it's time to revise it and have it join the 21st century, but Ottawa, presently run by Harper, who is afraid to open that basket of snakes on his watch, won't do it with being forced to.
The Idle No More thing may prove a real test for Harper. If he handles this poorly we could see violence, even terrorism here in Canada.
I am no fan of Harper BUT, he is only one side of the equation. There has been, and continues to be, a reluctance to chance or scrap the Act from the FN side as well. The way the leadership of the FN handle Idle No More will be just as much a test for them as it will be for Harper.
 

blackrock13

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I am no fan of Harper BUT, he is only one side of the equation. There has been, and continues to be, a reluctance to chance or scrap the Act from the FN side as well. The way the leadership of the FN handle Idle No More will be just as much a test for them as it will be for Harper.
A total scrapping of the act is the minority position inside the various FN associations, preferring to using the frame work and build on it. Yes on the INM, as well as the reverse.
 

Celticman

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Really? Can you back any of those claims up with copies of the documents? I suspect not. If you are arguing that there is no fraud, waste and mismanagement in the Indian industry then you are seriously delusional.

Sorry, my mistake, the Zamboni and rink cost $140,000 together. The Zamboni was only $70,000.

http://www.torontosun.com/2011/12/02/crisis-of-management
Sure I can.
lol - go ahead and post them
as the old joke goes, patience jackass.
username999 I guess the alleged documents alluded to by blackrock were a case of ................

 
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