Who Will You Vote For??

[Hornet]

I'm still undecided.

Here's my dilema:
- I don't want to vote Liberal
- I definitely don't want Harper as PM but wouldn't mind the PC's in power
- I won't vote NDP.
- I can't vote PQ (wouldn't even if I could)
- I won't vote for any of these smaller parties.
- I can't just not vote so I have to vote for somebody (Yes, technically I don't have to cast a vote but then what gives me the right to complain later when I forfieted my vote to begin with?).

 

[Hornet]

One other thing to consider, the Liberals will be more "pro-hobby" than the conservatives.

Using that logic then the NDP will propably be the most "pro-hobby" party of them all.

 

[Judas H]

Who ever is in power will need the support of the NDP. So a true Conservative government will never happen with this election.

 

[1HandInMyPocket]

- I can't just not vote so I have to vote for somebody (Yes, technically I don't have to cast a vote but then what gives me the right to complain later when I forfieted my vote to begin with?).

You can still complain if you made the choice not to vote because you don't like the choices.
It' s those people who don't vote because they just don't care, who shouldn't really complain.

For me, I still like the Liberals. The Ad-scam didn't bother me too much becuase it doesn't involve all Liberals.

My second choice (if we had some sort of Proportion Representation voting system, don't get me started on that) would have to go to, sigh, the NDP. They do want to help in social programs, perhaps we'll have less gun violence in T.O. but that's a conversation for another thread. I do recall a Conservative running in Stronach's riding saying to help with the violence was to just hire more cops, which I don't agree. Help the youth not get involve gangs and then you have a long term solution.

okay, now I'm off my soapbox

1Hand

 

[theatreguy2005]

Ticked Off

I have voted in every election I have been in the country for (I spent some time teaching overseas) and that goes for Federal, Provincial, and Municipal. I have never voted for a "party", rather the best candidate for my neighbourhood. However, at this point, I'm leaning towards not voting at all. There are signs on my street for the PC and Liberal Candidates...nothing yet from the Green or NDP. This is not my problem. My problem is is that I have received 1 (ONE) piece of information from those 4 candidates TOTAL. The piece of information I received was not from the incumbent, but rather one of the new candidates who sent around a flyer saying "Happy Holidays". The election is in, oh, 2 weeks, and how do they expect me to make an educated decision if they don't send me anything?? If a canvasser or the candidate themself came to my door, I would invite them in, to ask them questions, and hear what they have to say...then I could make my decision. But so far, none of the candidates in my riding are proving to me that they deserve my vote.

 

[steelers615]

One other thing to consider, the Liberals will be more "pro-hobby" than the conservatives.

Yes. Yes. Please, vote "pro-hobby". I don't want Canada to change.

 

[Choron]

I'm a conservative at heart...Voting liberal and NDP is not an option for me...However living in Kitchener-Waterloo, there is a full out turban wearing individual running for the Conservatives(WTF RIGHT? My thoughts exactly) I won't vote an immigrant into office...Not a chance...We have a lack of nationalism already, we need no nomination of such individuals...

Thus, I will NOT VOTE this ellection...

but I don't understand how Liberals supports justify their government being corrupt...There hasn't even been people thrown in jail for that Comission, so in effect it was useless...I want to see something done, and then maybe we can get some nationalism back in Canada, aside from hockey...Having a non pathetic military would be nice too...

 

[Choron]

I also want to point out to EVERYONE here...That the Prime Minister is essentially just a symbolic position as far as government power goes...Its more of a party leader...You are NOT voting for Steven Harper... You are NOT voting for Paul Martin...Unless you live where they are running for office (which is unlikely), but even then you are voting for him to be the a member of the House of Commons, not the Prime Minister...

So those of you that would say that Harper is this and Harper is that, should really refer more to the party as a whole rather than just Individuals...

We do NO have an EXECUTIVE branch like the United States does for its nomination and voting-in of Presidents... We only have a Prime Minister(essentially only Party Leader) that is a member of our LEGISLATIVE BODY(separate from Executive in the US but not here)

Understand that and it might make your explanations a lot more valid...

 

[Jennifer_]

..However living in Kitchener-Waterloo, there is a full out turban wearing paki running for the Conservatives(WTF RIGHT? My thoughts exactly) I won't vote towelheads into office...Not a chance, immigrants are starting to ruin our country and people's national perception of our country as well...

Thus, I will NOT VOTE this ellection.....

Niiiiice

I'm tryn' really hard to bite my tongue.....

 

[Judas H]

I'm a conservative at heart...Voting liberal and NDP is not an option for me...However living in Kitchener-Waterloo, there is a full out turban wearing paki running for the Conservatives(WTF RIGHT? My thoughts exactly) I won't vote towelheads into office...Not a chance, immigrants are starting to ruin our country and people's national perception of our country as well...

NICE!!!!!

I'm sure you didn't mind those exact same towel heads fighting along side of us in WWII.

This board has become a joke lately with all of the racism thats been tolerated.

 

[Jennifer_]

I also want to point out to EVERYONE here...That the Prime Minister is essentially just a symbolic position as far as government power goes...Its more of a party leader...You are NOT voting for Steven Harper... You are NOT voting for Paul Martin...Unless you live where they are running for office (which is unlikely), but even then you are voting for him to be the a member of the House of Commons, not the Prime Minister...

So those of you that would say that Harper is this and Harper is that, should really refer more to the party as a whole rather than just Individuals...

We do NO have an EXECUTIVE branch like the United States does for its nomination and voting-in of Presidents... We only have a Prime Minister(essentially only Party Leader) that is a member of our LEGISLATIVE BODY(separate from Executive in the US but not here)

Understand that and it might make your explanations a lot more valid...

The leader of the party is the spokesperson and front-man for the party (and in the case of the PM = the country). The strength, charisma, and character of a party's leader does infact matter.

 

[The Bandit]

there is a full out turban wearing paki running for the Conservatives(WTF RIGHT? My thoughts exactly) I won't vote towelheads into office...Not a chance, immigrants are starting to ruin our country and people's national perception of our country as well...

Unless you're a Native Indian, you're an immigrant too!!! ...what does a persons color, or nationality, have to do with the job they do? You're a racist A-hole...and no, I'm not a visible minority, just hate people who carry on like they're gods gift to this country.

 

[Jennifer_]

I'm a conservative at heart...Voting liberal and NDP is not an option for me...However living in Kitchener-Waterloo, there is a full out turban wearing paki running for the Conservatives(WTF RIGHT? My thoughts exactly) I won't vote towelheads into office...Not a chance, immigrants are starting to ruin our country and people's national perception of our country as well...

Thus, I will NOT VOTE this ellection....

To all the Conservatives' supporters:

This is the problem with the image of your party of choice.

I'm not saying the party endorses racisim in any way.....it's just that "redneck" quality that comes along with the Alliance/Reform half of the PC-Alliance merger.

(Look how shocked that..heaven-forbit a "paki" is running for the Conservatives...oh my!

WTF RIGHT? My thoughts exactly

This is so telling.....remember during the US elections when there were countless jokes on the the tiny number of black Republicans? Same situation...Same perception...Different country

The difference here is - as a country, we're generally a whole lot more liberal-minded and embrace multiculturalism and limited Christian influence over government more than the US)

To many Canadians the image that the Conservatives conjure-up is one of straight, white, male, Christians shoving their beliefs down a multicultural society's throats. Just won't work...

I'd be more apt to consider voting for the Conservative party - if they nixxed the Alliance/Reform influence on their image and ideology. Too bad they merged.....Until the redneck quality is non-existant within their image and/or platforms - I will never vote anything but liberal so that I can do my part in ensuring that the Conservatives do not take power.

I'm young - but I suppose already pretty jaded by politics. My belief is simply - any political party will make big financial promises during election-time. Any political party will screw you if they can. The party who gets my vote is the party who I feel can best ensure that my country continues to uphold the national values that I most am proud of as a Canadian. (such as equality despite sexual preference, gender, religion, or ethnicity and separation of church and state to name a few....)

In my opinion - the Conservative Party does not have my confidence that they will ensure that those values are not altered to suit their white-first, God-fearing ideology.

 

[21pro]

i grew up liberal... i share many liberal beliefs... however, the liberal party doesn't always take a liberal stance on issues. i never thought it was a liberal stance to set up a governing system that protects them when they choose corrupt tactics to give them the edge in being re-elected...

voting liberal is simply giving them the ok to go ahead and continue with their unfair, criminal and corrupt practices.

keep in mind that by voting liberal, it is also letting other parties know that political corruption isn't important in canadian politics. thus, all parties are going to go in a ruthless direction that will make canada a worse place thereafter. i think its time for a change.

 

[The Bandit]

Sure go ahead and "vote for change" like when people voted in McGuinty, Bob Rae, Joe "Who", Mulronrey. They had the shock of their lives going into the fire with no experience..and we're paying/or still paying for it. At least Martin was a finance minister and had some experience. Don't forget, alot of the fiasco's have to do with Chretien, and the two didn't see eye-to-eye. Most of the time you vote for the person, their beliefs, and their agenda, not necessarily the party. I could never vote for Harper, he wants to spend all this money here and there, after the Liberals have started paying off the defecit with surplus'. I can't trust him...just the way he looks, translates into someone who is untrusting....say one thing, and then get into power and do another...just like McGuinty.
I've always been a Liberal in federal politics, and used to be provincially, but back when Mike Harris was around he "did what he said he would do", and what needed to be done(cutbacks etc. were needed). See how the school boards are balancing their budget with alot less wasted spending. Can you say the same about McGuinty????

 

[Choron]

Unless you're a Native Indian, you're an immigrant too!!! ...what does a persons color, or nationality, have to do with the job they do? You're a racist A-hole...and no, I'm not a visible minority, just hate people who carry on like they're gods gift to this country.

Not really...native indians were subjugated long ago and everything changed...take a history class...I don't trust middle easterners since 911 especially...How could you care to like such an inclusive group who would call you an INFIDEL because you are not their religion?

 

[Choron]

To all the Conservatives' supporters:


(Look how shocked that..heaven-forbit a "paki" is running for the Conservatives...oh my! This is so telling.....remember during the US elections when there were countless jokes on the the tiny number of black Republicans? Same situation...Same perception...Different country

This is not the situation...People of color have never suicide bombed or have aimed to ruin a nation...You're views and opinions are clearly very jaded and uneducated...

 

[Jennifer_]

You're views and opinions are clearly very jaded and uneducated...

I can say the same about yours darlin'

 

[Choron]

To all the Conservatives' supporters:

This is the problem with the image of your party of choice.

I'm not saying the party endorses racisim in any way.....it's just that "redneck" quality that comes along with the Alliance/Reform half of the PC-Alliance merger.

(Look how shocked that..heaven-forbit a "paki" is running for the Conservatives...oh my! This is so telling.....remember during the US elections when there were countless jokes on the the tiny number of black Republicans? Same situation...Same perception...Different country

The difference here is - as a country, we're generally a whole lot more liberal-minded and embrace multiculturalism and limited Christian influence over government more than the US)

To many Canadians the image that the Conservatives conjure-up is one of straight, white, male, Christians shoving their beliefs down a multicultural society's throats. Just won't work...

I'd be more apt to consider voting for the Conservative party - if they nixxed the Alliance/Reform influence on their image and ideology. Too bad they merged.....Until the redneck quality is non-existant within their image and/or platforms - I will never vote anything but liberal so that I can do my part in ensuring that the Conservatives do not take power.

I'm young - but I suppose already pretty jaded by politics. My belief is simply - any political party will make big financial promises during election-time. Any political party will screw you if they can. The party who gets my vote is the party who I feel can best ensure that my country continues to uphold the national values that I most am proud of as a Canadian. (such as equality despite sexual preference, gender, religion, or ethnicity and separation of church and state to name a few....)

In my opinion - the Conservative Party does not have my confidence that they will ensure that those values are not altered to suit their white-first, God-fearing ideology.

Actually we're not all Christians either... I am of no belief...That's another stereotype you display...What do you refer to exactly when you say "Redneck" because typcially there arn't Canadians this can apply to... I'm proud of being Canadian too, and if you don't take that from what I said then you need to read it again...I said I want to incite nationalism in our country....Nobody should be proud of having a predominantly corrupt government in power....

 

[Choron]

Sure go ahead and "vote for change" like when people voted in McGuinty, Bob Rae, Joe "Who", Mulronrey. They had the shock of their lives going into the fire with no experience..and we're paying/or still paying for it. At least Martin was a finance minister and had some experience. Don't forget, alot of the fiasco's have to do with Chretien, and the two didn't see eye-to-eye. Most of the time you vote for the person, their beliefs, and their agenda, not necessarily the party. I could never vote for Harper, he wants to spend all this money here and there, after the Liberals have started paying off the defecit with surplus'. I can't trust him...just the way he looks, translates into someone who is untrusting....say one thing, and then get into power and do another...just like McGuinty.
I've always been a Liberal in federal politics, and used to be provincially, but back when Mike Harris was around he "did what he said he would do", and what needed to be done(cutbacks etc. were needed). See how the school boards are balancing their budget with alot less wasted spending. Can you say the same about McGuinty????

Once again you wouldn't be trusting Harper or Martin because they do not have real power...See my top of page 4 post to inform yourself...

As far as McGuinty goes...The guy is a total jack ass...His newest thing is attempting to impose an increased G1 age limit if you dropped out of high school? How the fuck does he expect those kids to work? He's lacking brain cells or something...