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Why are Republicans so beholden to Israel ?

dirtydaveiii

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According to consensus data there are about 150,000 Israeli immigrants in the US as of 2021 and 160,000 Palestinians. There are also 355,000 Ukrainian immigrants, 7.9 million Mexicans, 2.9 million Indians and 2.4 million Chinese. If it was a matter of the best interests of the American immigrants, the US would he expected to join India in its war against Pakistan or the Ukraine against Russia or Palestine against Israel but that is clearly not the case. What do you $uppose is going on down there ?
 

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I reckon Israel being a supposed democracy in an authoritarian region is one factor.
The other is many Republicans are evangelicals, and they love Israel because one of the "signs" or bible prophecies foretelling the return of Jesus is the Jews being back in the holy land. Thus, they gotta stay there for Jesus to come back and wipe out the world.
 

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I reckon Israel being a supposed democracy in an authoritarian region is one factor.
The other is many Republicans are evangelicals, and they love Israel because one of the "signs" or bible prophecies foretelling the return of Jesus is the Jews being back in the holy land. Thus, they gotta stay there for Jesus to come back and wipe out the world.
I could never figure out why Jesus was a Jew but the Jews do not believe that Jesus was anything more than a preacher. It was the Romans who killed him who invented Christianity, long after Jesus died. Kind of ironic isnt it ? If Constantine never had that dream Christianity would be considered folklore like the Greek Gods.
 
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According to consensus data there are about 150,000 Israeli immigrants in the US as of 2021 and 160,000 Palestinians. There are also 355,000 Ukrainian immigrants, 7.9 million Mexicans, 2.9 million Indians and 2.4 million Chinese. If it was a matter of the best interests of the American immigrants, the US would he expected to join India in its war against Pakistan or the Ukraine against Russia or Palestine against Israel but that is clearly not the case. What do you $uppose is going on down there ?
Besides AIPAC and Citizens United?

 
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The immigrants are just new laborers, you think Americans are gonna join a war and die just because these immigrants' country is at war with another country?

Israel connects the three continents, thus geographically very important, thus having them are a key ally suits American government's interest in the Middle East, to keep peace in the region.
 

dirtydaveiii

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The immigrants are just new laborers, you think Americans are gonna join a war and die just because these immigrants' country is at war with another country?

Israel connects the three continents, thus geographically very important, thus having them are a key ally suits American government's interest in the Middle East, to keep peace in the region.
The creation of Israel is the primary cause od war in the region
 

Frankfooter

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The immigrants are just new laborers, you think Americans are gonna join a war and die just because these immigrants' country is at war with another country?

Israel connects the three continents, thus geographically very important, thus having them are a key ally suits American government's interest in the Middle East, to keep peace in the region.
Maybe they think if they fight for Israel they'd get free health care, like Israel has.

 

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Evangelical Christians have a belief that the modern state of Israel is biblical prophecy and will help bring the end of days and the rapture. I had a long talk with an evangelical a few years ago about this, but I don't remember all the details...
 
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Frankfooter

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Evangelical Christians have a belief that the modern state of Israel is biblical prophecy and will help bring the end of days and the rapture. I had a long talk with an evangelical a few years ago about this, but I don't remember all the details...
Christian zionists are a big thing in the US, true. They also tend to be those end of times, armegedon is coming, types. Who also want to bring it on.
Of course its Iranians who are the real problem, apparently.

Israel is having some issues.
 

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Epstein has many videos of trump in a pink tutu getting the fountain from 8 ballerinas while dancing swan lake.

 
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BillC69

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The creation of Israel is the primary cause od war in the region
The region you mean Middle East?

"Primary cause" really? How about these wars, you think Muslims love each other so much?

Iran-Iraq war
Iraqi invasion of Kuwait
Syrian civil war
Libyan civil war
Yemen civil war
Sudanese civil war
Armenia-Azerbaijan war
Soviet–Afghan War
Turkey invasion of Cyrus
Pakistan-India conflict over Kashmir

Sure Israel were involved in some wars that's because Arabs kept attacking them.
 

BillC69

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Exactly. Hamas killed 1200, Netanyahoo killed 60,000 and counting. They think that's fair and equitable and refuse to say the word "genocide". That jewish lobby got clout!
If a group of bandits kill my family members, I will track them all down and kill them all, and I consider that fair as their lives are worthless dogshit to me. I don't just kill the same number of bandits as the number of my dead relatives and call it a day. I don't keep scores that way.

Israel is doing exactly that since Hamas is still holding the hostages.

There are 8 billion people in the world, you don't believe 60000 terrorists and their supporters exist?
 

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Lessee..

  • Democratic Country
  • Free Elections
  • A free press
  • Freedom of Speech for Israeli citizens, not for subject peoples (Duh)
  • A multi-religious country with Religious Freedom for Israeli citizens, not for subject peoples (Duh)
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  • Support for LGBT+ (good luck Queers for Palestine)
  • 31st out of 103 countries for the World Economic Forum: Inclusive Development Index
  • A Western oriented country in a sea of autocratic dictatorships that screech "Death to the West".
  • The right to protest without getting automatically killed
  • A market based economy, ranks 28 out of 216 countries per the IMF. Globally economically competitive, 20th out of 141 countries per WEF
  • An extremely educated country - Israel was ranked number 1 in the list of leading countries in the world in submitting international applications for patent registration out of the 152 member countries of the Patent Cooperation Treaty and 16th in the Global Innovation Index https://www.gov.il/en/pages/wipo
  • Multiethnic society where all races & religions get to vote - they even have a political party that wants a 2 state solution as well as a Islamic Conservative party (UAL) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Israel for Israeli citizens, not for subject peoples (Duh)
  • All Israeli citizens are considered equal before the law
  • Human Development Index: 0.919, ranked 25th out of 189.
  • Corruption Index 30th out of 180 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index
  • and so on
  • and so on
  • and so on
You anti-Semitic wackjobs can support Hamas & Islamists all you want. Commit your histrionic national & cultural suicide all you want.
It's telling that you support and advocate for the exact opposite of us.
When push comes to shove, I'd prefer Israel beside me as an ally than any other single Arab country in the Middle East- who most likely would stab us in the back.
 
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Skoob

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According to consensus data there are about 150,000 Israeli immigrants in the US as of 2021 and 160,000 Palestinians. There are also 355,000 Ukrainian immigrants, 7.9 million Mexicans, 2.9 million Indians and 2.4 million Chinese. If it was a matter of the best interests of the American immigrants, the US would he expected to join India in its war against Pakistan or the Ukraine against Russia or Palestine against Israel but that is clearly not the case. What do you $uppose is going on down there ?
A few clues...

There are approx. 700,000 Americans living in Israel.
Israel is an ally.
Israel hasn't promised to wipe another nation off the map.
Israel hasn't attacked the US or taken American hostages.
Israel doesn't support terrorist groups such as Hamas and Hezbollah.
Bonus: Israel doesn't make homosexuality a crime.
 

nottyboi

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A few clues...

There are approx. 700,000 Americans living in Israel.
Israel is an ally.
Israel hasn't promised to wipe another nation off the map.
Israel hasn't attacked the US or taken American hostages.
Israel doesn't support terrorist groups such as Hamas and Hezbollah.
Bonus: Israel doesn't make homosexuality a crime.
Of course Israel has threatened to wipe out Iran and Lebenon. You have very selective deafness. Is there a menorah stuck in your ear?
 

mandrill

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Because Israelis don't fly hijacked jetliners into the World Trade Centre and Muslims do?

And it's good to have your own little buddy in Crazy Muslim Land?
 
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