I don't think anyone other than Trump himself seriously
believe he is a champion of democracy. I do believe Trump
is good in taking advantage of democracy which is not
admirable but nonetheless understandable.
Will Biden step down?
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believe he is a champion of democracy. I do believe Trump
is good in taking advantage of democracy which is not
admirable but nonetheless understandable.
He probably needs to go because he's going to get trounced by Trump. The world would be safer and more stable and democracy would remain intact with Biden ( and his team of advisors) compared to Trump , who is a lying degenerate and is insane. But Biden will probably lose because of his stumbling , mumbling , stuttering performance on that debate stage. Of course Butler has been campaigning for Trump by constantly attacking Biden, so he can take some credit for the moral and spiritual decline in world affairs, the destruction of democracy and the weaponization of the White House ( yea, Trump is always guilty of exactly what he falsely accuses others of). There may not be time to find and promote another candidate at this late date, so Trump may achieve the ultimate notoriety of bringing down civilization which he craves as long as he's getting attention.
First, it's a joke. Second, it was widely reported in Liberal media.
Finally, read the quote carefully. It says nothing about Obama's preference for a 2020 Democratic nominee one way or another.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics...joe-biden-campaign-legacy-2020-bts-nr-vpx.cnn
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The dems are claiming he was over prepared but if that's true he still totally bumbled what they prepared him on.
Even worse, Biden missed so many obvious rebuttals and chances from rump its pathetic.
This one alone should have stopped the debate, rump claims he had inside info that Putin was going to invade Ukraine and didn't tell either the US or Ukraine.
Question, which state contributes the most to the GDP and has the strongest economy in your country?
Careful how you spin this young man.
NY Times calls on Biden to drop out of 2024 presidential race ‘to serve his country’ after abysmal debate performance
The New York Times editorial board called on President Biden to step aside as the presumptive Democratic nominee in the 2024 presidential race Friday, one day after his abysmal performance in a debate against Donald Trump.
While insisting that Biden, 81, had been an “admirable president,” the liberal Grey Lady concluded the incumbent appeared on the debate stage as “the shadow of a great public servant” and would be engaging in a “reckless gamble” by continuing his candidacy.
Calls for Joe Biden to step aside have mounted after his performance in Thursday’s debate against Donald Trump.
“There is no reason for the party to risk the stability and security of the country by forcing voters to choose between Mr. Trump’s deficiencies and those of Mr. Biden,” the board wrote. “It’s too big a bet to simply hope Americans will overlook or discount Mr. Biden’s age and infirmity that they see with their own eyes.”
“Mr. Biden answered an urgent question on Thursday night. It was not the answer that he and his supporters were hoping for,” the Times concluded. “But if the risk of a second Trump term is as great as he says it is — and we agree with him that the danger is enormous — then his dedication to this country leaves him and his party only one choice.”
It followed a day of chaos and confusion among Democrats after Biden repeatedly froze, misspoke and lost his train of thought during the first of two scheduled debates against his predecessor in Atlanta.
At one point, Biden gazed down at his lectern for nearly 10 whole seconds before popping up again to say that he “finally beat Medicare.”
We just witnessed the end of Joe Biden’s presidency
The Times editorial board noted that Biden had “challenged Mr. Trump to this verbal duel. He set the rules, and he insisted on a date months earlier than any previous general election debate. He understood that he needed to address longstanding public concerns about his mental acuity and that he needed to do so as soon as possible.”The truth Mr. Biden needs to confront now is that he failed his own test.”
“Mr. Biden answered an urgent question on Thursday night. It was not the answer that he and his supporters were hoping for,” the Times concluded over the incumbents performance against Donald Trump.
Even before the Times editorial board weighed in, two of the paper’s most prominent columnists had called on Biden to step aside. “The Democratic Party has some prominent figures who I think would be in a good position to defeat Trump in November,” Nicholas Kristoff wrote late Thursday following the debate. “This will be a wrenching choice.”
“But, Mr. President, one way you can serve your country in 2024 is by announcing your retirement and calling on delegates to replace you,” he said, “for that is the safest course for our nation.”
Thomas Friedman, who called Biden “my friend” said that watching the debate “made me weep” and acknowledged that “Joe Biden, a good man and a good president, has no business running for re-election.”
nypost.com
The New York Times editorial board called on President Biden to step aside as the presumptive Democratic nominee in the 2024 presidential race Friday, one day after his abysmal performance in a debate against Donald Trump.
While insisting that Biden, 81, had been an “admirable president,” the liberal Grey Lady concluded the incumbent appeared on the debate stage as “the shadow of a great public servant” and would be engaging in a “reckless gamble” by continuing his candidacy.
Calls for Joe Biden to step aside have mounted after his performance in Thursday’s debate against Donald Trump.
“There is no reason for the party to risk the stability and security of the country by forcing voters to choose between Mr. Trump’s deficiencies and those of Mr. Biden,” the board wrote. “It’s too big a bet to simply hope Americans will overlook or discount Mr. Biden’s age and infirmity that they see with their own eyes.”
“Mr. Biden answered an urgent question on Thursday night. It was not the answer that he and his supporters were hoping for,” the Times concluded. “But if the risk of a second Trump term is as great as he says it is — and we agree with him that the danger is enormous — then his dedication to this country leaves him and his party only one choice.”
It followed a day of chaos and confusion among Democrats after Biden repeatedly froze, misspoke and lost his train of thought during the first of two scheduled debates against his predecessor in Atlanta.
At one point, Biden gazed down at his lectern for nearly 10 whole seconds before popping up again to say that he “finally beat Medicare.”
We just witnessed the end of Joe Biden’s presidency
The Times editorial board noted that Biden had “challenged Mr. Trump to this verbal duel. He set the rules, and he insisted on a date months earlier than any previous general election debate. He understood that he needed to address longstanding public concerns about his mental acuity and that he needed to do so as soon as possible.”The truth Mr. Biden needs to confront now is that he failed his own test.”
“Mr. Biden answered an urgent question on Thursday night. It was not the answer that he and his supporters were hoping for,” the Times concluded over the incumbents performance against Donald Trump.
Even before the Times editorial board weighed in, two of the paper’s most prominent columnists had called on Biden to step aside. “The Democratic Party has some prominent figures who I think would be in a good position to defeat Trump in November,” Nicholas Kristoff wrote late Thursday following the debate. “This will be a wrenching choice.”
“But, Mr. President, one way you can serve your country in 2024 is by announcing your retirement and calling on delegates to replace you,” he said, “for that is the safest course for our nation.”
Thomas Friedman, who called Biden “my friend” said that watching the debate “made me weep” and acknowledged that “Joe Biden, a good man and a good president, has no business running for re-election.”
NY Times calls on Biden to drop out of 2024 presidential race ‘to serve his country’ after abysmal debate performance
The New York Times editorial board called on President Biden to step aside as the presumptive Democratic nominee in the 2024 presidential race Friday, one day after his abysmal performance in a deb…
nypost.com
Bill Clinton!
He's younger than the both of them, got a bj in the white house and has only been impeached once.
Because he's good enough, he's smart enough and doggone it, people like him.
It's going to be a Cruel Summer for Democrats. See you in Chicago!
talking about Trump?Because he's good enough, he's smart enough and doggone it, people like him.
It's going to be a Cruel Summer for Democrats. See you in Chicago!
Certainly California contributes the most and is perhaps the strongest. Strong is also a question of relative dynamism vis-a-vis other large states.
Obviously, the tech sector is the biggest driver of the California economy. The tech sector has been the lead economic engine for several decades long pre-dating the Democrat's complete dominance of California state politics beginning around 2010 perhaps a bit earlier. Economies aren't just snapshots in time. They are fluid and evolving with historical success often a major prerequisite for vitality.
Having said all that, Newsom should campaign hard on California's economy. Related to economics, he will be challenged on high taxes, the cost of living and higher unemployment than the rest of the country. These are just how it would go down in a campaign. I wouldn't consider this last paragraph opinion.
Ok so we have established California under Newsom has the strongest economy and the strongest GDP of all other States with Texas being second. Follow-up question, how do you think Trump would facing Newsome on the other side of the podium in a debate?
Newsom would be great debate presenter. He would be able to take on Trump on the stage. That doesn't mean he would win in November, but I like his chances much more than Biden's chances.
I don't have a lot of exposure to Gretchen Whitmer. Coming from a purple state like Michigan I'm guessing she doesn't have to defend a lot of progressive legislation. As a woman, she also solves half the problem of bypassing Kamala.
One thing we have to ask is can Gavin Newsom win the battleground states? Winning California, the West Coast and Northeast doesn't improve the Democrat's chances.
He's polished, he has the facts down pat and can present them Obama style. The ladies would be voting for him in droves. I think he would run away with it and it wouldn't matter who the VP is. I would say the same thing about whichever VP Trump decides on it won't make a difference vote-wise for the orange stain.
You are merely being partisan. There's talk that Rubio as VP would broaden the appeal to Hispanic voters. That's my preference of the names being considered. Haley would be even better, but I don't think she's on the list.
Perhaps you saw the video here of Newsom admitting to sleeping with his campaign manager's wife. I think that offsets his attractiveness. Female voters will just go with their ingrained political leanings.
Oh yeah, you can bet the farm Newsom will select a female VP. He might even decide to do that promptly if Biden drops out.
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OTOH, he's never sexually assaulted a woman in a store dressing room area. That might even things out. And Blue state voters are going to be less evangelical than Oklahomans and Texans.
I am guessing yes.
I would alert you to the fact that Newsom goes on Fox News* periodically. He's a smart politician. He knows your political muscle can atrophy in a one party State like California. (I think that's one of Kamala's issues.)
What Newsom would likely do is immediately tack to the center. The sooner the better, but to the chagrin of progressives. Do you think he's going to tell the pro-Palestinian crowd that he's going to abandon Israel. No, he will say he wants peace and he will demand Israel's cooperation, but he won't move Left on the issue. He might start slow walking EVs on the national stage. He might he even sound tougher on border policy.
Spending? There's no Democrat who doesn't talk up spending initiatives. Of course, he will do everything while balancing the budget. The likely Republican Senate next year will keep a check on him.
You don't get to be the Governor of California without a big team of advisors who probably have already crafted his platform and I doubt it's Bringing California to the Nation.
* Since so many here champion their preferred cable news diet, I will reiterate I don't watch Fox News. I've just read that Newsom likes to appear on the network.
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