Will Biden step down?

[kherg007]

My fear is the dems will have their left hold their breath and have a hissy fit if they don't appoint someone who may not be electable nationally. Trump seems to have 42-43% lifers who will vote for him no matter what. He could be skinning babies in the street and they'll still vote for him.
The Kamala problem exists too. She's not nearly as bad as Fox et AL have been portraying her (yes, they show her out of context, every slip up is played ad nauseum, they do it to AOC and they did it to Hillary etc, of course no droning on about the rapist - numerous con jobs - insurrection - business fraud - convicted felon guy). But...if the Dems sidestep her, there may be backlash. If they step over her (eg Newsome or Pritzker or Whitmer as P, her still as VP) they'll be anger plus fake anger from the Russian bots as to why she shouldn't be the nominee. If they elevate her to the top they'll lose. They put in Elizabeth Warren -at the top super smart woman - they'll lose.
If they got "state of the union" Joe they would have won. Instead they got "woken up in the middle of his nap" Joe. Horrible how the USA public votes on style not substance.

 

[WyattEarp]

My fear is the dems will have their left hold their breath and have a hissy fit if they don't appoint someone who may not be electable nationally. Trump seems to have 42-43% lifers who will vote for him no matter what. He could be skinning babies in the street and they'll still vote for him.

You try to paint a solid 43% as a cult. Trudeau would be ecstatic if he had those numbers.

The Kamala problem exists too. She's not nearly as bad as Fox et AL have been portraying her (yes, they show her out of context, every slip up is played ad nauseum, they do it to AOC and they did it to Hillary etc, of course no droning on about the rapist - numerous con jobs - insurrection - business fraud - convicted felon guy).

Fox News doesn't have any sway beyond hardcore conservative voters to shape how Kamala is perceived. Their audience amounts to about 2% of the electorate. Even if we consider some of the audience rotates, what are we talking about......5% and that's being generous. Anyway, were the voting for Biden/Harris?

If they got "state of the union" Joe they would have won. Instead they got "woken up in the middle of his nap" Joe. Horrible how the USA public votes on style not substance.

The pre-debate numbers aren't looking great for Biden. I don't think we have seen "State of the Union" Joe since or often enough.

In politics, sometimes you have to look inward not outward for the answer.

 

[Skoob]

If that's what wins the race...

Ah so, if winning an election is the objective then overlook a visible minority and a woman.
But for everything else, then scream racism and unfairness.

Gotcha.

 

[Frankfooter]

Ah so, if winning an election is the objective then overlook a visible minority and a woman.
But for everything else, then scream racism and unfairness.

Gotcha.

I thought you were against equity, skooby doo.
Haven't you been arguing the best candidate, regardless of race, should be chosen?

 

[richaceg]

The Democrats are working as a team. Which makes far less dangerous than the dictator psycho.

They only work as a team to run the country as they want it....he will fall on the sword while someone else makes the decision? What the fuck is wrong with you? The dems need to ask for an election now...it's now a nig question whose making all the decisions regarding the hamas Israel conflict and Russia Ukraine....obviously not Joe Biden...
So tell me...who in the democrats need to answer for all the decisions?

 

[Skoob]

I thought you were against equity, skooby doo.
Haven't you been arguing the best candidate, regardless of race, should be chosen?

Ah yes right on queue...this is the part where you jump into someone else's conversation and distract with stupid comments that are based on bullshit and your own imagination.

But since you like trolling and sticking your nose in...how about you answer the question?

Why overlook a visible minority/woman who is qualified and is already the VP and go with another white guy to replace the old white guy?

I'll wait...

 

[Frankfooter]

Ah yes right on queue...this is the part where you jump into someone else's conversation and distract with stupid comments that are based on bullshit and your own imagination.

But since you like trolling and sticking your nose in...how about you answer the question?

Why overlook a visible minority/woman who is qualified and is already the VP and go with another white guy to replace the old white guy?

I'll wait...

Maybe she's more qualified to be VP than POTUS, skoob.
Why do you think you know better than them?

 

[wigglee]

Ah yes right on queue...this is the part where you jump into someone else's conversation and distract with stupid comments that are based on bullshit and your own imagination.

But since you like trolling and sticking your nose in...how about you answer the question?

Why overlook a visible minority/woman who is qualified and is already the VP and go with another white guy to replace the old white guy?

I'll wait...

Because the rightwing trolls have been slagging Kamala for 5 years now. It would take a while for them to conjure up some lies to discredit the new blood. What is wrong switching the old , feeble white guy with a younger, intelligent white guy? The object is to save America by defeating Rump, not at this time to advance equality by nominating a gay, brown woman of Palestinian heritage with Tourette's.

 

[jalimon]

They only work as a team to run the country as they want it....he will fall on the sword while someone else makes the decision? What the fuck is wrong with you? The dems need to ask for an election now...it's now a nig question whose making all the decisions regarding the hamas Israel conflict and Russia Ukraine....obviously not Joe Biden...
So tell me...who in the democrats need to answer for all the decisions?

you are probably one that believes the potus can lower gas price and lower inflation all by himself?

 

[Butler1000]

Because the rightwing trolls have been slagging Kamala for 5 years now. It would take a while for them to conjure up some lies to discredit the new blood. What is wrong switching the old , feeble white guy with a younger, intelligent white guy? The object is to save America by defeating Rump, not at this time to advance equality by nominating a gay, brown woman of Palestinian heritage with Tourette's.

The big issue they have is replacing Biden means admitting they KNEW HOW BAD HE WAS. And were willing to put him in anyway. That reflects on the whole party and will affect independent voters.

 

[WyattEarp]

The big issue they have is replacing Biden means admitting they KNEW HOW BAD HE WAS. And were willing to put him in anyway. That reflects on the whole party and will affect independent voters.

Yes, this is worrisome. Don't forget the complicity of the liberal media in this. We have pages and pages here of members telling us not to believe what we could see for ourselves.

The 2020 campaign was different. It was a slower pace. They should have known that 2024 would be different and require a more vibrant and vigorous effort.

The good news is the Dems can now run a younger and sharper candidate that they can contrast with a 78 year-old blowhard.

 

[Frankfooter]

The big issue they have is replacing Biden means admitting they KNEW HOW BAD HE WAS. And were willing to put him in anyway. That reflects on the whole party and will affect independent voters.

What does that say about the GOP?

 

[Skoob]

Maybe she's more qualified to be VP than POTUS, skoob.
Why do you think you know better than them?

OMFG
The VP is fully prepared & qualified to take over for the POTUS should they need to.
15 VPs in US history became POTUS.

 

[Skoob]

Because the rightwing trolls have been slagging Kamala for 5 years now. It would take a while for them to conjure up some lies to discredit the new blood. What is wrong switching the old , feeble white guy with a younger, intelligent white guy? The object is to save America by defeating Rump, not at this time to advance equality by nominating a gay, brown woman of Palestinian heritage with Tourette's.

Both sides slag each other and always will.
So why not give the current VP the opportunity? They praised themselves for having the first black woman VP...why wouldn't she be good enough for POTUS?

Specifically, why wouldn't she be able to beat Trump in your opinion?

 

[Frankfooter]

OMFG
The VP is fully prepared & qualified to take over for the POTUS should they need to.
15 VPs in US history became POTUS.

Of course, but maybe there are still others even more qualified to lead.
Its a democracy, isn't it?
Aren't they allowed to choose the best candidate?

 

[Frankfooter]

Both sides slag each other and always will.
So why not give the current VP the opportunity? They praised themselves for having the first black woman VP...why wouldn't she be good enough for POTUS?

Specifically, why wouldn't she be able to beat Trump in your opinion?

We all know you are pushing this line because you think the US would never elect a black woman as POTUS and you just want your rapist felon as leader.

 

[Skoob]

Of course, but maybe there are still others even more qualified to lead.
Its a democracy, isn't it?
Aren't they allowed to choose the best candidate?

Why would you think she's not the best candidate already if you are so quick to make that claim?

 

[Skoob]

We all know you are pushing this line because you think the US would never elect a black woman as POTUS and you just want your rapist felon as leader.

No I'm asking an honest question.
They already elected her as VP so why would you think she couldn't get elected as POTUS?

 

[Frankfooter]

No I'm asking an honest question.
They already elected her as VP so why would you think she couldn't get elected as POTUS?

I'm sure she could also beat your rapist felon choice.
But why stick to just her as a choice, shouldn't a democracy mean you get to consider all candidates?

Why are you so fixated on choosing for the dems the person you think your rapist has the best chance to beat?
Is it your need to try to prove that black people are lesser people?

 

[Leimonis]

Sell me on a team that won't overthrow democracy...


Yet many Republicans left his team, never to return, during his term in office.

David Shulkin
H.R. McMaster
Rex Tillerson
John McEntee
Gary Cohn
Hope Hicks
Rob Porter
Omarosa Manigault-Newman
Dina Powell
Tom Price
Sebastian Gorka
Steve Bannon - Isn't he in jail now?
Anthony Scaramucci
Reince Priebus
Sean Spicer
Mike Dubke
James Comey
Mike Flynn
Sally Yates

Other notables:

• Steven Goldstein: Under Secretary of State for Public Diplomacy and Public Affairs
• Josh Raffel: Deputy communications director
• Rick Dearborn: deputy chief of staff
• George Sifakis: director, Office of Public Liaison
• Ezra Cohen-Watnick: senior director for intelligence programs, National Security Council
• Michael Short: senior press assistant
• Walter Shaub: director, Office of Government Ethics
• Vivek Murthy: surgeon general
• Angella Reid: chief usher, White House
• Katie Walsh: deputy chief of staff
• Preet Bharara: U.S. attorney, Southern District of New York

ABC News' John Parkinson, Justin Fishel, Katherine Faulders, John Santu

Wait where did mike Flynn go? Kremlin?