Will Bush Bomb Iran

[onthebottom]

The US MIC is counting on that Israeli paranoia.....always has.
It tends to fatten their bottom line and that's what it's really all about.
Israel serves the purposes of the MIC very well, they play Israel like a fiddle........

It really scares me that you were a teacher.......

The paranoia is suffocating.

OTB

 

[WoodPeckr]

It really scares me that you were a teacher.......

The paranoia is suffocating.

OTB

What is really suffocating is how you manage to swallow whatever Rove gives you without losing a stroke. Guess it's part of being a beancounter.

Try a little history instead and see what goes on in the real world instead of what goes on under the desks in your Ivory towers.....

 

[onthebottom]

What is really suffocating is how you manage to swallow whatever Rove gives you without losing a stroke. Guess it's part of being a beancounter.

Try a little history instead and see what goes on in the real world instead of what goes on under the desks in your Ivory towers.....

Alright, I stand corrected, orally fixated anti-semitic homophobe.... you know what that usually means don't you - it's ok, you'll feel better - go ahead and come out.

OTB

 

[WoodPeckr]

Alright, I stand corrected, orally fixated anti-semitic homophobe.... you know what that usually means don't you - it's ok, you'll feel better - go ahead and come out.

OTB

In all honesty bottie, haven't a clue, unlike you, I'm old fashioned, I only like girls.
By your above sentiments it appears you prefer both the bears & boyz ...... not that that makes you a bad, bottom.......

 

[onthebottom]

In all honesty bottie, haven't a clue, unlike you, I'm old fashioned, I only like girls.
By your above sentiments it appears you prefer both the bears & boyz ...... not that that makes you a bad, bottom.......

Ah yes, the "I know you are but what am I" brand of wit.

OTB

 

[WoodPeckr]

Ah yes, the "I know you are but what am I" brand of wit.

OTB

You do that very well......almost sound like your bro Laddie in fact.....

 

[WoodPeckr]

Is DICK Mad ... as In Really Insane?

Here DICK is preaching to the choir of fellow neocons. From the tenor of his statements it appears poor DICK has lost it! His view of reality seems quite delusional to say the least. Could the pressure be getting to DICK?

Our Mad Mad Mad Mad Vice President Speaks

by Karen Kwiatkowski

The Cheney speech to AIPAC – reassuring militant rightwingers in Israel and the US that America is leaning forward on Iran, and that we are never leaving Iraq – was filled with honesty and conviction, and gives us a clear window into the administration's thinking.

Cheney's description of terrorists is somewhat emotional and overblown. Calling them "freedom's enemies," he comes dangerously close to describing this administration's id. His emphasis on one-side’s victims in last summer's war with Lebanon, and his proud silence on the thousands killed, injured, made homeless and jobless by American weaponry is also understandable as he speaks to the AIPAC audience. His "three myths" on Iraq and the so-called war on terror are sermons to a choir that raises its voice demanding America be not a policeman in the Middle East, not an inspiration, but a blustering and imbecilic bodyguard.

But the real truth in Cheney's speech is found in his sense of urgency. Cheney exhorts Congress to remember 9-11 and damns it for failing to subsume its every decision to the maintenance of the administration's cultural mythology of that day. He rails at the idea of time limits in Iraq, and suggests that debate in Washington on the role, objectives and cost of our militarism in the Middle East is counterproductive and allows the "enemy" to "watch the clock and wait us out."

But it is Cheney – not al Qaeda – who is watching the clock now. This former Secretary of Defense understands only too well that the deployment of two battle groups in the Persian Gulf, and the onset of this year's "spring offensive" in Afghanistan both point to a ticking clock – second-generation shock and awe forces require many months of planning, and a massive logistics tail to support even a short-lived coordinated attack. The clock is indeed ticking, and nothing must get in the way of that. It is not ticking for the occupied Palestinian territories, nor the fractured and dazed Iraqis living out some kind of neo-colonial nightmare. Those efforts are perfectly on track, as hoped for, and AIPAC completely understands this.

It is all about Iran. The U.S. military, from the tone and content of Cheney's speech, is now ready, and the window is open. The administration may actually be a bit behind in building its public case – at least one as plausible as the false case made by this same administration less than five years ago regarding Iraq. Part of this case-making process entails boxing the Congress, and preventing that body from asserting its collective intellect, refreshing its own collective familiarity with truth, justice, reality and even the Constitution. Iran is back on the table, and the House warning language on Iran stricken.

70% of the American public, and most of the soldiers and Marines in Iraq understand the idiocy, the pointlessness and shoddy logic of this alter-ego "war" we are fighting in Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, soon Iran and perhaps even Syria. This majority of Americans are beginning to hate Dick Cheney and George W. Bush for what they are doing to our own nation. But the 70% in this country have no important conferences for the political leadership, they have no lobbyists, they have no deep pockets, and they have no rabidly confident sense that they alone have all the answers to the world's problems. AIPAC, on the other hand, has all these things.

And soon, it is likely they'll have their desired attacks on Iran. We may soon hear of an accident, an incursion, or a purported attack on our forces. That provocation will force the President to bomb until our bombs run out, and will give the Democrats one more opportunity to prove their abject fealty to war. From what we are hearing of this year's AIPAC conference, it will be up to a few honest and courageous souls in the Senate, or a revolt of the generals, to stop America's next war.


March 19, 2007

LRC columnist Karen Kwiatkowski, Ph.D. [send her mail], a retired USAF lieutenant colonel, has written on defense issues with a libertarian perspective for MilitaryWeek.com, hosted the call-in radio show American Forum, and blogs occasionally for Huffingtonpost.com and Liberty and Power. Archives of her American Forum radio program can be accessed here and here. To receive automatic announcements of new articles, click here.

Copyright © 2007 Karen Kwiatkowski

 

[red]

so far- no bombs

 

[danmand]

Here DICK is preaching to the choir of fellow neocons. From the tenor of his statements it appears poor DICK has lost it! His view of reality seems quite delusional to say the least. Could the pressure be getting to DICK?

Our Mad Mad Mad Mad Vice President Speaks

I think not. He is very calm an logical. Have you considered the possibility that he is representing the MIC?

 

[danmand]

Iran captures british marines

Iran has captured 15 british marines.

http://ekstrabladet.dk/nyheder/samfund/article283632.ece

 

[Topol-M]

March 23 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. Navy, after nearly six years of warnings from Pentagon testers, still lacks a plan for defending aircraft carriers against a supersonic Russian-built missile, according to current and former officials and Defense Department documents.

The missile, known in the West as the "Sizzler,' has been deployed by China and may be purchased by IRAN

http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20070323/pl_bloomberg/ako7y_orw538

 

[lookingforitallthetime]

Iran has captured 15 british marines.

http://ekstrabladet.dk/nyheder/samfund/article283632.ece

I came to the realization that Papa isn't a poor speller, he's just speaking Dane.

 

[danmand]

I came to the realization that Papa isn't a poor speller, he's just speaking Dane.

We were here long before the english. My people called it vineland.

 

[red]

We were here long before the english. My people called it vineland.

isn't that off the qew?

 

[danmand]

isn't that off the qew?

Navigation was never our strong point, why do you think we ended up in New foundland?

 

[WoodPeckr]

so far- no bombs

Here's the latest:

Iran would be attacked at the beginning of April (Russian military experts)

By RIA Novosti

Translated from French by Babelfish

03/26/07 -- - MOSCOW, March 19 - RIA Novosti. The Russian military experts estimate that the planning of the American military attack against Iran passed the point of nonreturn on February 20, when the director of the IAEA, Mohammed El Baradei, recognized, in his report/ratio, the incapacity of the Agency "to confirm the peaceful character of the nuclear program of Iran".

According to the Russian weekly magazine Argoumenty nedeli, a military action will proceed during the first week of April, before Easter catholic and orthodoxe (this year they are celebrated the 8), when the "Western opinion" is on leave. It may be also that Iran is struck Friday 6, public holiday in the Moslem countries. According to the American diagram, it will be a striking of only one day which will last 12 hours, 4 hours of morning to 16 hours of afternoon. The code name of the operation is to date "English Cock" (Bite). A score of Iranian installations should be touched. With their number, centrifugal machines of uranium enrichment, centers of studies and laboratories. But the first block of the nuclear thermal power station of Bouchehr will not be touched. On the other hand, the Americans will neutralize the DCA, will run several Iranian buildings of war in the Gulf and will destroy the key positions of command of the armed forces.

As many measurements which should remove in Teheran any capacity to counteract. Iran projected to run several tankers in the strait of Ormuz with an aim of cutting the provisioning of the international markets of oil and of striking with the Israel missile.

The analysts affirm that strike them American will be launched from the island of Diego-Garcia, in the Indian Ocean, from where will take off of the bombers with long operating range B-52 with on their board cruise missiles; by the embarked aviation of the American aircraft carriers deployed in the Gulf and forming part of the 6th American Fleet in the Mediterranean; cruise missiles will be also drawn since the submarines concentrated in the Pacific and with broad from Arabia.
Result, the Iranian nuclear program will be rejected several years in back. In private talks, American Generals suppose that the times of deployment of American anti-missile defense in Europe can be postponed. Another event envisaged, the oil barrel could fly away to 75-80 dollars and this for one prolonged period.

Meanwhile, the new resolution on Iran and whose project was adopted by the five permanent members of the Security Council and Germany should be voted with CS as of this week. The text envisages sanctions against 10 Iranian public companies and to three companies concerned with the Body of the guards of the Islamic revolution, unit of elite to the orders of the spiritual leader of the Islamic Republic, the ayatollah Ali Khamenei. Sanctions are also envisaged against 15 physical people: eight leaders placed high of companies of State and seven key characters with the Body of the guards of the Islamic revolution.

Original article in French - http://fr.rian.ru/world/20070319/62260006.html

 

[assoholic]

"led by a pair of aircraft carriers and backed by warplanes flying simulated attack maneuvers off the coast of Iran."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17810017/

..before I posed the question, since this thread has been started are we closer to attacking Iran. Well, now US jets are about as close as they can get.

 

[danmand]

Why anyone is surprised at a possible attack against Iran or outraged by the prospect is beyond me.

I don't know if either surprised or outraged is the right term here. Unsettled may be a better term.

I believe that an attack on Iran would be an even more disastrous act than the war on Iraq.
It would accomplish two objectives:

1. Close the Strait of Hormuz and plunge the world into an energy crisis.

2. Unite virtually the entire arab and islamic world against the West,
if you will, create a WWIII, likely of the lukewarm type.

It is unsetteling to watch the disintegration of foreign policy into threats,
and the use of military action as a preventive measure against who knows what.

I never noticed the US having been elected to determine which regimes are
accepteble or not.

 

[danmand]

a) who will close the straight of Hormuz?

b) name one of the Arab states that would actually complain about Persians being blown up and back that complaint up. In other words bitching for street consumption doesn't count.

c) war has always been diplomacy by other means.

a. Iranians and islamic volunteers.

b. Pakistan + Radical islamists everywhere.

c. by imperialistic powers, yes.

 

[Aardvark154]

It should have been done years ago, but "the writing is ever increasingly on the wall" that developed countries simply must either as regional blocks or collectively start in investing Manhattan Project type effort and resources into developing replacements for petroleum (such as automobile fuel cells) and safer nuclear power generating stations.

Iran wouldn't have the power it does and the world financial markets wouldn't be concerned as they are if we were not dependant on Middle Eastern Crude Oil.