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TeasePlease

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From experience women are as bad as pimps.... regardless of the gender if someone knows or thinks that has power over you and you let them they would do whatever they want...
For me Independent is the better deal.... IMHO
What??? Sorry I couldn't read what you were saying because of your juicy ass in my face.


D-Fens - you're right about no more lifetime jobs. As I look around, more and more of my peers are choosing to go off on their own as contractors. More control over their destiny. We are all expendable.
 

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All agreed.

But, I feel little sympathy for the kids whoever undergrads in English lit or geography and expect management positions when they graduate. Ppl still expect that university is necessarily a pathway to a career. That started changing 30 years ago. If you wanted the guarantee of a job, you should have taken a vocational degree.

... or go into one of the traditional professions (they're always looking for cheap, new recruits who need the experience to attain their designations).
 

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Not to mention many boomers are working way pass 65.

I remember when my Dad first came here in the early 70s. He would walk down the street and people would literally stop him and ask him if he wanted a job. The Auto industry was in its prime and there were tons of manufacturing jobs they would literally beg people to work for them. That's how many jobs there were. My Dad applied at a plant that manufactured car parts. They asked him a couple questions about his availability and the interview ended with "You start Monday" He was at that job for almost 40 years. Full pension benefits, everything.

Today you go through 3 interviews to get a job at Chapters. Now a days if you get a job it is very unlikely you will be there for 40 years.
All this and when headhunters call you, the position may already be gone (they're just looking for fresh prospects and giving a sales pitch - scumbags).

After I graduated, I had 3 job offers. Yes, a much different world unfortunately.
 

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All this and when headhunters call you, the position may already be gone (they're just looking for fresh prospects and giving a sales pitch - scumbags).

After I graduated, I had 3 job offers. Yes, a much different world unfortunately.
I once went to a job interview at this Liquor Brewery and the manager of the place said "We already filled the position would you like us to do the interview anyway?" I drove about 45 minutes to get there.

I told him that if the position had already been filled you should have let me know that way I wouldn't have to waste my time coming here and told him to go fuck himself

The place closed down a few months later anyway.
 

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I once went to a job interview at this Liquor Brewery and the manager of the place said "We already filled the position would you like us to do the interview anyway?" I drove about 45 minutes to get there.

I told him that if the position had already been filled you should have let me know that way I wouldn't have to waste my time coming here and told him to go fuck himself

The place closed down a few months later anyway.
You should have first asked him to give you an expensive bottle of wine or Scotch. (Then tell him to F.O.)
 

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Not to mention many boomers are working way pass 65.

I remember when my Dad first came here in the early 70s. He would walk down the street and people would literally stop him and ask him if he wanted a job. The Auto industry was in its prime and there were tons of manufacturing jobs they would literally beg people to work for them. That's how many jobs there were. My Dad applied at a plant that manufactured car parts. They asked him a couple questions about his availability and the interview ended with "You start Monday" He was at that job for almost 40 years. Full pension benefits, everything.

Today you go through 3 interviews to get a job at Chapters. Now a days if you get a job it is very unlikely you will be there for 40 years.
Some of those boomers are still paying off their mortgage and the kids education so they have to work past 65. That and some people are getting laid off in their late 40's, early 50's so they have no choice, but to work well into their 60's. Wal-Mart hires a lot of them.

You're lucky to last 40 months these days.
 

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... or go into one of the traditional professions (they're always looking for cheap, new recruits who need the experience to attain their designations).
Lawyers and accountants are a dime a dozen these days. Only the top 25% get decent jobs. The bottom 25% are fucked. And this is before the accountants further fucked themselves by merging all three designations. The market is saturated.

Some of those boomers are still paying off their mortgage and the kids education so they have to work past 65. That and some people are getting laid off in their late 40's, early 50's so they have no choice, but to work well into their 60's. Wal-Mart hires a lot of them.

You're lucky to last 40 months these days.
True. Especially with mandatory retirement tossed out the window.
 

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Lawyers and accountants are a dime a dozen these days. Only the top 25% get decent jobs. The bottom 25% are fucked. And this is before the accountants further fucked themselves by merging all three designations. The market is saturated.
It's a long haul for either of those professions, but you won't be unemployed.

That being said, hopefully the market will know the difference in the transitional dual designation phase. If the CA's didn't merge with the CMAs or CGAs, the CGAs might have invited the U.S. CPAs or merged with the CMAs with that brand.

Let's face it though, the big boys did this as well as restrict licensing to fuck the sole practitioners or small firms out of assurance work, and control competition with a single standard.
 

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All agreed.

But, I feel little sympathy for the kids whoever undergrads in English lit or geography and expect management positions when they graduate. Ppl still expect that university is necessarily a pathway to a career. That started changing 30 years ago. If you wanted the guarantee of a job, you should have taken a vocational degree.
English and geography are IMO two relatively worthwhile majors
for those with the right aptitude to pursue in universities. A good
command of English or a good grasp of principles of urban geography
could be very useful skills. There is this discipline of Sociology namely
Women & Gender Studies that has gained remarkable popularity in
recent years. As irrelevant as the subject is to the job market here is
what UofT indicated as career opportunties for those who aspire to
study victimization of women:

Who employs women and gender studies graduates?


Government and Community Organizations
Universities and Colleges
Non-profit agencies
Religious Organizations
Mental Health Facilities
Community Centres
Behavioral Health Clinics
Residential Care Facilities
Corporate Human Resources Offices

You can also gain experience by volunteering to participate in a faculty member’s research project. To do so, approach the professor with whom you would like to work or apply for UTM’s Research Opportunity Program (ROP).
Aside from promising career opportunity the university also wants you
to know the many useful skills that the students are going to acquire:

Skills developed by women & gender studies majors

Communication skills



Ability to formulate and defend positions
Ability to write detailed research papers and summarize concepts and ideas
Use vocabulary to suit a wide variety of audiences
Read and understand both primary and secondary sources
Explain concepts and strategies well enough in research papers to influence
and persuade the reader

Research skills

Evaluate ideas and research
Gather information and data
Literature reviews using libraries and internet
Interpret research and data

Interpersonal skills


Tolerance of different people and their views
Ability to understand difference and discover the intersections between
racism, homophobia, sexism, classicism, and other forms of oppression
Knowledge about power relationships and injustice
Ability to accept intellectual and personal challenges, take a stand
and support it with evidence
Ability to assess needs
When the ivory tower resort to this kind of propaganda to
sucker high school teens whose fault is it if they are going to
join the generation of the underemployed in the future?
 

explorerzip

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English and geography are IMO two relatively worthwhile majors
for those with the right aptitude to pursue in universities. A good
command of English or a good grasp of principles of urban geography
could be very useful skills. There is this discipline of Sociology namely
Women & Gender Studies that has gained remarkable popularity in
recent years. As irrelevant as the subject is to the job market here is
what UofT indicated as career opportunties for those who aspire to
study victimization of women:



Aside from promising career opportunity the university also wants you
to know the many useful skills that the students are going to acquire:



When the ivory tower resort to this kind of propaganda to
sucker high school teens whose fault is it if they are going to
join the generation of the underemployed in the future?
Seems like our universities are telling kids to study Women's Study so they can get a cushy government job that doesn't exist.
 

TeasePlease

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It's a long haul for either of those professions, but you won't be unemployed.
I would like to agree with you but I sincerely doubt it. I'm seeing the same thing that happened in the early 80s now. We will have a lost generation of professionals who got screwed by the system. There are simply too many unemployed and underemployed accountants and lawyers now.

You don't graduate school with $100K plus in debt and beg to work for free. That's been happening for 3-4 years now.

English and geography are IMO two relatively worthwhile majors
for those with the right aptitude to pursue in universities. A good
command of English or a good grasp of principles of urban geography
could be very useful skills.
I fully agree. I'm the first to complain about hiring professionals who can't string a sentence to save their life (and I'm talking about domestic born and raised kids, not immigrants). I also agree that valuable skills can be gained in many generalist disciplines. But they are just that. A general arts or science degree is nice, but not immediately employable. The top of the class will always land on their feet. Those who pursue graduate studies will find some employment somewhere. But, the psych major and greek mythology grad with the B average.....
 

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I would like to agree with you but I sincerely doubt it. I'm seeing the same thing that happened in the early 80s now. We will have a lost generation of professionals who got screwed by the system. There are simply too many unemployed and underemployed accountants and lawyers now.

You don't graduate school with $100K plus in debt and beg to work for free. That's been happening for 3-4 years now.



I fully agree. I'm the first to complain about hiring professionals who can't string a sentence to save their life (and I'm talking about domestic born and raised kids, not immigrants). I also agree that valuable skills can be gained in many generalist disciplines. But they are just that. A general arts or science degree is nice, but not immediately employable. The top of the class will always land on their feet. Those who pursue graduate studies will find some employment somewhere. But, the psych major and greek mythology grad with the B average.....

I meant immediately employable, however, you may be right about underemployed. Isn't the early 80s much different than now? Also, I thought they were paying CA articling students well over $40K a year?

Some liberal arts majors find jobs at banks or large organizations who will pay them cheap but train and mold them into their likeness as an investment towards their loyalty and minimize turnover. Liberal arts majors who are great communicators with well rounded abilities have a certain appeal to many organizations.
 

TeasePlease

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I meant immediately employable, however, you may be right about underemployed. Isn't the early 80s much different than now? Also, I thought they were paying CA articling students well over $40K a year?

Some liberal arts majors find jobs at banks or large organizations who will pay them cheap but train and mold them into their likeness as an investment towards their loyalty and minimize turnover. Liberal arts majors who are great communicators with well rounded abilities have a certain appeal to many organizations.
A few of the consulting firms used to brag about how they recruit liberal arts majors. I don't see that any more.

Starting salaries in accounting have been steadily falling. Ten years ago, they hit a high of $50K, now they are $45K at the big firms and smaller firms are getting away with $35K. Again, supply problem. The early 80s had the same problem with too many accounting grads who couldn't get jobs, therefore couldn't get the required hours, therefore couldn't get their designations....

I'm seeing the same problem now with accountants and lawyers. And I'm seeing firms pull offers after they've been put out because the expected work volume doesn't materialize.
 

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The Auto industry was in its prime and there were tons of manufacturing jobs they would literally beg people to work for them. That's how many jobs there were. My Dad applied at a plant that manufactured car parts.
We can also kiss brick and motar retail stores goodbye as well. Thanks to online shopping. Staples, Sears, Best Buy, etc. cutting jobs and closing stores.

BTW 1: Many young adults are still or returning to live at home with their parents.

BTW 2: The former major law firm Heenan Blakie dissolved due to insufficient billable hours.
 

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From experience women are as bad as pimps.... regardless of the gender if someone knows or thinks that has power over you and you let them they would do whatever they want...
For me Independent is the better deal.... IMHO
What owner thinks they have power over the girls? That's just naive if u ask me. Without the girls, owners have an empty building. And perhaps I'm bias but having worked myself (and Riley as well) for 8yrs as MPA's, former sex trade workers turned owners have zero interest in having power over staff. Clearly people don't do proper research when entering the business.

Indy has way more risks.

A licensed facility is safer, a female owned one has better up-keep, the security factor has better safety, and walk-in traffic + regulars is always better than strangers & no shows.

To each their own.....
 

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Now imagine had she caught some kind of std?m.
Wonder the angle of the piece then.

The risks fffar outweigh anything else.

No one will openly admit they have any kind of disease but the chances are immense and if anyone says otherwise you're either lying to everyone or kidding yourself.

The hotter thegirl, the greagter the risk. Or, the higher volume the gurl, the greater the risk.

One can only i imagine the number of people going through that clinic downtown. Forgot the name.


The things people will do for money,

Then regret it in the end.
 

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There are simply too many unemployed and underemployed accountants and lawyers now.
Too many real estate agents, mortgage brokers and financial advisers as well. There are over 30K + real estate agents in Toronto alone. It must be tough if not impossible to make a living if youre just starting out in those careers. At least they are self employed and can generate some income, but I wonder about if they behave responsibly. When Harold the Jewellery Buyer started offering mortgages, I knew that the governing bodies had drastically lowered their standards.
 

TeasePlease

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Now imagine had she caught some kind of std?m.
Wonder the angle of the piece then.

The risks fffar outweigh anything else.

No one will openly admit they have any kind of disease but the chances are immense and if anyone says otherwise you're either lying to everyone or kidding yourself.

The hotter thegirl, the greagter the risk. Or, the higher volume the gurl, the greater the risk.

One can only i imagine the number of people going through that clinic downtown. Forgot the name.


The things people will do for money,

Then regret it in the end.
So you think she's bitter because she's diseased?

Now that's speculation. Unhelpful and unfair, IMO.


Too many real estate agents, mortgage brokers and financial advisers as well. There are over 30K + real estate agents in Toronto alone. It must be tough if not impossible to make a living if youre just starting out in those careers. At least they are self employed and can generate some income, but I wonder about if they behave responsibly. When Harold the Jewellery Buyer started offering mortgages, I knew that the governing bodies had drastically lowered their standards.
Yes, but those are lower cost of entry professions. Very different than someone who has invested $100k or $200k and 4 to 7 years of their life thinking that it would lead to a good career.
 

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So you think she's bitter because she's diseased?
Not at all. My point was simply, assuming she didn't get any STDs, she clearly didn't appreciate the business but understood the "costs" of it.
I'm just wondering if the article would have been written in a MUCH more cynical darker manner had she had more bad experiences or paid for it with her health.

That's all.
 
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