With no career prospects and a pile of student debt, I thought prostitution was...

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Notice the only client she wasn't repulsed by was in his early 20's? And you don't think he was getting better service than the rest?

This is why your teens and 20's is THE TIME to be seeing sp's. Too many young guys let pride get in the way of paying for it, thinking they should be able to get it for free. But sex is never free for guys, so all they end up getting is their hand.

I'm only in my mid-20's, and I already feel like I'm in a race against time. Still young enough to receive a look of relief whenever I walk through the door of a new sp, but not for much longer probably.
That's a big assumption about age. Lots of ugly fat guys in there 20's out there. Remember its about the money too. Us older guys have more and make for better regulars. As for the look of relief I'm heading for 50 and have gotten it on more than one occasion. Its about taking care of yourself, hygene, attitude not about age.
 

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Notice the only client she wasn't repulsed by was in his early 20's? And you don't think he was getting better service than the rest?

This is why your teens and 20's is THE TIME to be seeing sp's. Too many young guys let pride get in the way of paying for it, thinking they should be able to get it for free. But sex is never free for guys, so all they end up getting is their hand.

I'm only in my mid-20's, and I already feel like I'm in a race against time. Still young enough to receive a look of relief whenever I walk through the door of a new sp, but not for much longer probably.
100% disagree. Most girls feel uncomfy when he is in the same age bracket, their peers of sorts. Not only does the younger guy lack the skills an older man has, but often the younger guys are cocky/trying to get ur #/act like ur her gift for the day. Meanwhile, she can't wait for her calm, married, sensual, orgasmically skilled 50-something regular to arrive.
 

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I think this girl's essay is a good comment on what's happening to an entire generation of kids. She's definitely not the only one of her generation that is struggling to find work. We basically have a whole generation that will always be under-employed. Is it her fault for picking a "useless" degree? Perhaps it is, but what about the teachers and guidance councillors? Do they not carry some responsibility for guiding kids to make good career choices especially when the parents have no clue either. I don't know anyone else's experience, but I think that guidance councillors are basically useless when it comes to advising kids on making career choice]. It seems high schools and universities are totally out of touch with what skills businesses are looking for.
Could not agree more.

If I had listened to my Grade 13 Guidance Councillor, for sure I'd not be where I am today.

I'm not saying I'm THEE most successful guy in the world, or don't make mistakes, but he (my Grade 13 Guidance Councillor (wish I could remember his name)) was a fucking tool.

In a nutshell, he told me that I was aiming too high and to consider something else.

I refused to take no for an answer (If everytime in my life I took no for an answer, I'd be living in cardboard box under the Gardiner.)

I did what I had to do to get into school, no matter what that took. I got accepted to the program and the university of my choice and though it was never easy, I ended up with a Master's Degree and worked my ass off to become a part owner of the company I'm with now that employs 150 people.

That clown Guidance Councillor back in Grade 13 at Southmount Secondary School in Hamilton is one of the guys on my all time tool lists.

My advice to kids today would be "know what you want, don't take no for an answer, give it your best shot and if that doesn't work, give it another shot."
 

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Yes, but those are lower cost of entry professions. Very different than someone who has invested $100k or $200k and 4 to 7 years of their life thinking that it would lead to a good career.
Yes, the cost of some professions like real estate, mortgage broker, etc. are very low, but that doesn't guarantee a good career or good people either. I would argue that it's worse to allow so many people into these professions with the bar is set so low. There are lots of people that can pass tests yet know nothing. It's kind of disturbing that the people we trust for major decisions like mortgages, real estate, insurance and investments only need to pass a series of tests. There are lots of qualified and professional agents, brokers and advisers out there, but lots of people that don't know what they are talking about.

I would argue that the barrier to entry into university has also been lowered. You are able to take continuing ed (night classes) and use the credits to transfer into day school. That's happening at Ryerson and probably at all other schools. I'm wondering if we've been quietly pushing kids into university even though they don't need it or want to go. This seems to be the case since you have colleges offering degrees by partnering with universities. Ryerson is now a university, but used to be a technical school.

Colleges and universities are businesses so they do want to push through as many kids as possible regardless if they can find work or not.
 

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Could not agree more.

If I had listened to my Grade 13 Guidance Councillor, for sure I'd not be where I am today.

I'm not saying I'm THEE most successful guy in the world, or don't make mistakes, but he (my Grade 13 Guidance Councillor (wish I could remember his name)) was a fucking tool.

In a nutshell, he told me that I was aiming too high and to consider something else.

I refused to take no for an answer (If everytime in my life I took no for an answer, I'd be living in cardboard box under the Gardiner.)

I did what I had to do to get into school, no matter what that took. I got accepted to the program and the university of my choice and though it was never easy, I ended up with a Master's Degree and worked my ass off to become a part owner of the company I'm with now that employs 150 people.

That clown Guidance Councillor back in Grade 13 at Southmount Secondary School in Hamilton is one of the guys on my all time tool lists.

My advice to kids today would be "know what you want, don't take no for an answer, give it your best shot and if that doesn't work, give it another shot."
I wonder how someone becomes a guidance councillor? Almost seems that if you don't have the right stuff to become a teacher or prof, that you're relegated to being a guidance councillor.
 

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100% disagree. Most girls feel uncomfy when he is in the same age bracket, their peers of sorts. Not only does the younger guy lack the skills an older man has, but often the younger guys are cocky/trying to get ur #/act like ur her gift for the day. Meanwhile, she can't wait for her calm, married, sensual, orgasmically skilled 50-something regular to arrive.
Yes because I'm sure every sp thinks very highly of a man who cheats on his wife. and every 50-something guy can make a woman cum in 12 different ways.

When I was in my 20s I never behaved like some cocky douche bag, I had skills, and I never asked for her number. I've been with sps younger than me older, and the same age, It does not matter. Chemistry is chemistry. Either you have it or you don't.
 

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Yes because I'm sure every sp thinks very highly of a man who cheats on his wife. and every 50-something guy can make a woman cum in 12 different ways.

When I was in my 20s I never behaved like some cocky douche bag, I had skills, and I never asked for her number. I've been with sps younger than me older, and the same age, It does not matter. Chemistry is chemistry. Either you have it or you don't.
Lmao. Most providers have a significant other too. His cheating isn't my moral decision to judge. In fact, I know 1st hand what many married folks of any age endure...I was in a sexless relationship myself for a decade, men are lucky they have hobbying to use as a crutch. For the record, ive yet to meet a 20-something who has the skills to make me cum like that of a man with twice his life experience.
 

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Lmao. Most providers have a significant other too. His cheating isn't my moral decision to judge. In fact, I know 1st hand what many married folks of any age endure...I was in a sexless relationship myself for a decade, men are lucky they have hobbying to use as a crutch. For the record, ive yet to meet a 20-something who has the skills to make me cum like that of a man with twice his life experience.
That sounds like a challenge.

Game on, gents, lady needs some loving'. Lol
 

D-Fens

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Lmao. Most providers have a significant other too. His cheating isn't my moral decision to judge. In fact, I know 1st hand what many married folks of any age endure...I was in a sexless relationship myself for a decade, men are lucky they have hobbying to use as a crutch. For the record, ive yet to meet a 20-something who has the skills to make me cum like that of a man with twice his life experience.
I find it very unlikely that I will still be hobbying when I am in my 50s. (regardless of whether we get new laws or not) I just don't see myself still hobbying at that age. I have a feeling by then I will have gotton bored of it and moved on to other things.

Some sps I made cum, others I didn't. The ones I had better chemistry with made me want to go the extra mile to please them.

"Most" providers? I find that hard to believe.

Most Sps I've talked to tell me while it's not their position to judge either, it did bother them somewhat he was cheating and having a relationship while being in the business is extremely difficult.

If someone is unhappy in their marriage, I just don't think seeing sps behind their back is the answer, that's just my opinion.
 

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I find it very unlikely that I will still be hobbying when I am in my 50s. (regardless of whether we get new laws or not) I just don't see myself still hobbying at that age. I have a feeling by then I will have gotton bored of it and moved on to other things.

Some sps I made cum, others I didn't. The ones I had better chemistry with made me want to go the extra mile to please them.

"Most" providers? I find that hard to believe.

Most Sps I've talked to tell me while it's not their position to judge either, it did bother them somewhat he was cheating and having a relationship while being in the business is extremely difficult.

If someone is unhappy in their marriage, I just don't think seeing sps behind their back is the answer, that's just my opinion.

Ahh, the optimism and idealism of youth. I miss those days!


(I bet that few young girls expect to grow up and begone sex workers. But life happens,)
 

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Ahh, the optimism and idealism of youth. I miss those days!


(I bet that few young girls expect to grow up and begone sex workers. But life happens,)
Right! I hope he revisits this thread in 30yrs. Because life happens!
 

TeasePlease

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Right! I hope he revisits this thread in 30yrs. Because life happens!

To the contrary, I hope D-Fens is not hanging around these parts 30 years from now. I hope he's found his soulmate and that they're still havin crazy monkey sex after all those years. We all want to be happy.

The young tend to judge because they haven't had enough life experience to gain perspective. It's not about settling. It's about playing with the cards life's deals you. Maybe your wife develops complications from childbirth and can't be intimate with you. Maybe your best friend and his wife passes away and leaves their three small children in your care so you have no time to date. Maybe you just married the wrong woman and your life goes sideways for a few years.

Keep in mind also, D-Fens, you might see hookers when you're young because you're horny. But when you're older, it's more likely that it will be because you're lonely. Are you sure you can predict that?
 

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I get around.
I find it very unlikely that I will still be hobbying when I am in my 50s. (regardless of whether we get new laws or not) I just don't see myself still hobbying at that age. I have a feeling by then I will have gotton bored of it and moved on to other things.

Some sps I made cum, others I didn't. The ones I had better chemistry with made me want to go the extra mile to please them.

"Most" providers? I find that hard to believe.

Most Sps I've talked to tell me while it's not their position to judge either, it did bother them somewhat he was cheating and having a relationship while being in the business is extremely difficult.

If someone is unhappy in their marriage, I just don't think seeing sps behind their back is the answer, that's just my opinion.
I started in my 50s and am having a blast! So much fun to have sex with hot young women who are totally into it - with no strings attached, no compromises, no future obligations. I get to indulge in many of my fantasies and desires, with women of all shapes sizes and ethnicities. Want to continue as long as I can, because I can certainly foresee a rapidly-approaching time at which I won't be physically capable of the enjoyment I get now.
It's not just a hobby but also awesome physical therapy. Wish I had started a few years earlier.

TeasePlease said:
(I bet that few young girls expect to grow up and become sex workers. But life happens,)
More than we realize. There was a tv series called 'Family Business' that followed Seymour Butts throughout his day. It was a real eye-opener when he had a casting call for new talent and so many young women would show up, willing and hoping to become porn stars.

"I bet that few young girls expect to grow up and become..." can apply to many outcomes that pay a lot less - working at Tim Horton's, waitress, assembly-line worker, retail store associate, so-called "assistant" to a man doing the same work for more $$$...
 

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. There was a tv series called 'Family Business' that followed Seymour Butts throughout his day. It was a real eye-opener when he had a casting call for new talent and so many young women would show up, willing and hoping to become porn stars.

"I bet that few young girls expect to grow up and become..." can apply to many outcomes that pay a lot less - working at Tim Horton's, waitress, assembly-line worker, retail store associate, so-called "assistant" to a man doing the same work for more $$$...

Those porn starlets are not young girls. They're young women who have realized that fame and fortune are not easily gotten, and who would rather not work at retail or food service jobs. They are all outcomes of reality....same as for a guy who marries his dream girl and wakes up 5 years later realizing that that it's not all morning blowjobs and mind blowing sex 24/7.
 

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Sad thing is that so many jobs out there don't require a degree. I don't know why so many parents and educators are pushing kids to university when college is perfectly fine.

Another issue is that kids have less time to "explore" career options during high school since there's only 4 years. Harris made quite the mess getting rid of grade 13 when you look at things now. The double cohort generation are all looking for work now and are competing for too few jobs.
Getting rid of grade 13 was a wonderful thing. Every kid in Canada except those living in Ontario had to be in school a year longer than everybody else. A complete waste of time. If kids in every other province in Canada and across the world can complete highschool up to grade 12 or less, so can Ontario's kids. Harris knew how to govern.
 

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Getting rid of grade 13 was a wonderful thing. Every kid in Canada except those living in Ontario had to be in school a year longer than everybody else. A complete waste of time. If kids in every other province in Canada and across the world can complete highschool up to grade 12 or less, so can Ontario's kids. Harris knew how to govern.
Agreed. Except it really f-ed up frosh week when 90% of the plebes can't even drink (legally)

kidding aside, the one year made a huge difference on the maturity of students at the undergrad level. Not sure if that is entirely time, or because kids are more coddled these days
 

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So close and yet so far.
As for how MPAs feel about their clients, I think all of the men on this board, me included, should defer to MPA Squared. She surely knows a lot more about the inside workings of a parlour, and the mentality of the girls than we could ever hope to.
Of course, she knows her clients, and may be stroking our egos a little bit. As one of the 50+ gentlemen on this board, I don't mind too much.
 

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A little piece of me died after reading that
 

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Getting rid of grade 13 was a wonderful thing. Every kid in Canada except those living in Ontario had to be in school a year longer than everybody else. A complete waste of time. If kids in every other province in Canada and across the world can complete highschool up to grade 12 or less, so can Ontario's kids. Harris knew how to govern.
Except that when Harris killed grade 13, we had a double cohort of grads trying to get into university. I also think they cut grade 13 in one academic year instead of phasing it over a number of years, thus causing the double cohort. I think had to increase funding to the colleges and universities to handle the load. We might have saved some taxes, but we spent the savings to deal with the double cohort.

I seem to recall that we had a choice of graduating in 4 or 5 years regardless if we were going to college or university. As far as I remember grade 13 was optional, but most took it anyway. It seems to me that if there's 4 years of high school, you have to a clear plan with what career you want to pursue starting at grade 7 or 8. I had no idea what I wanted to do at that age, so I'm guessing that most kids are still like that. The school system and guidance councillors are useless so I'm not sure how a grade 7 kid would have the decision making skills to pick the required courses needed in high school and then for university or college.

I'm wondering if it would be useful to have a mandatory year off between high school and college / university so the students and parents has time to reflect on what they want to do before making the big investment.
 
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