Woman furious at male duck for mating with female

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Can we judge human behavior based on the morals of our time?
Since all humans have an understanding of rules of society, I think perhaps, but it's more nuanced. Since society has agreed on a set of rules that are enforced, breaking the contract can be seen as being immoral.

However, many people, rightfully so, disagree with the moral code that society imposes on us. And, of course, even today morals vary widely by region and culture.

It may be seen as highly immoral to eat beef in Hindu society. Yet, Muslims may be fine with it, but find it highly objectionable to eat pork. Western society in general will see neither of those as objectionable. There is no universal set of moral truths, and hence the conflict we have in today's world,

We try to enforce what the majorty of society thinks is right, but just because a majority have agreed upon a set of moral rules, doesn't make them right.

Is a Muslim woman who cheats on her husband because he is abusive and she is suicidal doing something immoral? Society says cheating is wrong, so does her relligion. But who are we to judge her? She broke the societal contract, but I would find it hard for me to call her immoral.
 
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I think it's different with animals.

It's less about feelz and more about laying eggs and species survival.
It's about evolution.
But that includes "feelz".

Coercive sex is the term in animals (since "rape" carries so much culturally-specific baggage).
And coercive sex is different than non-coercive sex, even in ducks.
Ducks do both.
The females choose mates, and also unchosen males often try and force themselves onto females.


It's part of why they have the elaborate corkscrew and anti-spiral genitals. (Since the females don't want to be bred by the rapey ducks they didn't choose.)
 
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Some whales and dolphins are also gang rapey. Some species rape the females. Others fight off other males for access to females.
Right.
This isn't unknown.
Which is why it is so weird that people here are acting as if the idea that ducks rape is shocking and silly to believe.
 

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Uhhhh...so I suppose you've personally spoken to a female duck who confided in you that she was in fact raped by a male duck? Was a rape kit taken? Was impregnation the outcome leading to a baby duck being a rape baby? Was there a line up for the victim to identify her attacker? Honestly, I feel like a gofundme is the least we can do for this poor little lady.
You do know that people study animal behaviour, right?
 
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Strange question.
I don't think the people confused about duck mating habits on the thread are more likely to be one political ideology or not.
There's an incredibly high probability that she had no real idea what the ducks were doing. Studying non human animal behaviour is one thing, but being some random out looking for a new shade of blue hair colour for yourself and not liking the commotion you're hearing is another.
 
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Its part of why they have the elaborate corkscrew and anti-spiral gentials. (Since the females don't want to be bred by the rapey ducks they didn't choose.)
It's and genitals, but I digress.

Trying to take them apart if the male duck is already inside the female can cause a lot of harm to both involved, even more so if the female is accepting of the male and some clown alien life form decides it doesn't seem right and wants to break it up.

Nature designed everything in particular ways for various reasons. Human intervention wasn't needed in this case because someone who doesn't really know what's going on decided to do something about it.
 

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There's an incredibly high probability that she had no real idea what the ducks were doing.
I never said otherwise.
We don't even see what the ducks are doing, so it is very hard to tell.

Studying non human animal behaviour is one thing, but being some random out looking for a new shade of blue hair colour for yourself and not liking the commotion you're hearing is another.
What does any of this have to do with "lefties", though?
We know nothing of her political leanings, and I am not making judgment of the leanings of those in the thread.
 

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I never said otherwise.
It was implicit enough that "she possibly knows what's going on and trying to stop it".

We don't even see what the ducks are doing, so it is very hard to tell.
Good thing she was getting that net I guess, to see what was going on.



What does any of this have to do with "lefties", though?
For me and why I'm saying it, it's just entertainment, we don't know her political leaning, but the proverbial Karens do seem to come in large part from the "left", but there are a lot of crazy ass conservative ones as well.

We know nothing of her political leanings, and I am not making judgment of the leanings of those in the thread.
I did just because it adds more "colour" to the whole thing. lol
 

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don't tell me, you teach a course at a community college
Nope.

why Whales are the biggest mammals

but they don't have to be
That could be a clever title for a course about upending things people "know are true" and showing how much more complex the natural world is than we think.
 

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so glad to see that you are an expert in so many fields, including animal behavior

you must appreciate Jordan Peterson's take on lobsters then
I do.
He's so comically wrong in so many ways.
 

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It's and genitals, but I digress.
Typos happen.

Trying to take them apart if the male duck is already inside the female can cause a lot of harm to both involved, even more so if the female is accepting of the male and some clown alien life form decides it doesn't seem right and wants to break it up.
Of course, we have no evidence she was trying to do that and not just trying to break up the early parts of the assault, since we never see the ducks.

Nature designed everything in particular ways for various reasons. Human intervention wasn't needed in this case because someone who doesn't really know what's going on decided to do something about it.
But again, I haven't defended her behaviour.
I've pointed out how weird it is that people seem confused that she viewed a coercive event as coercive.
 

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Typos happen.
What do you call it when you omit a punctuation mark? its/it's? Lack of typing or an actual typo, hmm...

Of course, we have no evidence she was trying to do that and not just trying to break up the early parts of the assault, since we never see the ducks.
Chances are probably good they were mating. ;)

But again, I haven't defended her behaviour.
I've pointed out how weird it is that people seem confused that she viewed a coercive event as coercive.
You may not have, but you just needed to chime in, knowing it all, so now you're dealing with it and you learned the difference between its and it's. :p
 
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