Women are precluded from becoming Navy SEALs

[GG2]

http://www.sealswcc.com/navy-seals-general-requirements.aspx

Would you want an elite female force going after OBL?

When it comes down to brass tacks, men and women know that we must rely upon the combination of mental and physical strength found only in elite young men to get certain jobs done. Feminists will be hesitant to holler discrimination on this topic because they feel safer knowing men are at the helm of such operations.

Likewise, if I were in the army (let alone privileged to be member of a special elite force) I would NOT want females fighting alongside with me or guarding my back.

 

[Rockslinger]

Wasn't Demi Moore a navy SEAL? Hee, hee, hee.

 

[GG2]

Wasn't Demi Moore a navy SEAL? Hee, hee, hee.

Maybe in a fictional world designed by Hollywood.

 

[blackrock13]

Maybe in a fictional world designed by Hollywood.

Ask FUJI, he knows about stuff like that.

 

[WoodPeckr]

Wasn't Demi Moore a navy SEAL? Hee, hee, hee.

Demi decided to become a Seal after watching Wonder Woman and Xena The Warrior Princess on TV....:thumb:

 

[Rockslinger]

Demi decided to become a Seal after watching Wonder Woman and Xena The Warrior Princess on TV....:thumb:

Are you guys making fun of a serious question? BTW: Did Demi do a nude scene in that movie?

 

[Ceiling Cat]

Gadaffi has female body guards, but when he orders a whacking I do not think they croak anyone.

 

[WoodPeckr]

Are you guys making fun of a serious question?

Heck no!
I used to watch Wonder Woman all the time.....:eyebrows:

 

[dj1470]

I could be wrong but I think the only places women don't serve are in SpecOps (SEALs, Delta, Green Berets, etc) and on submarines.

HOWEVER...............I'd love to go on this search and destroy mission!

 

[rld]

I am not sure, but last time I looked at this issue the US military did not allow women into pure combat roles.

IIRC though there was one woman who did qualify to become a green beret.

Considering what some women soldiers have done through history I believe there are likely women who could serve well in an elite unit.

 

[rld]

http://www.sealswcc.com/navy-seals-general-requirements.aspx

Would you want an elite female force going after OBL?

When it comes down to brass tacks, men and women know that we must rely upon the combination of mental and physical strength found only in elite young men to get certain jobs done. Feminists will be hesitant to holler discrimination on this topic because they feel safer knowing men are at the helm of such operations.

Likewise, if I were in the army (let alone privileged to be member of a special elite force) I would NOT want females fighting alongside with me or guarding my back.

Let me ask though, have you ever served in the military?

 

[Aardvark154]

It entirely depends upon what the specialty requires: Needless to say a woman can be just as good a pilot as a man or just as good a maintainer, likewise a woman can be just as good a fire control technician or Naval Officer or Intelligence Specialist as a man. However personally I do not believe women should be serving, nor do they have the physical strength to serve as a gunner or in the Infantry or in a Commando/Special Forces unit such as the SEALS.

There is also the issue as politically incorrect as it may be that men particuallarly those with the values of almost all in the military are going to take risks they should not to protect a woman in the unit.

 

[GPIDEAL]

I think women are capable to be in an elite commando unit but the mixing of M & F may not make such a combination the most efficient killing machine.

 

[my name Peggy]

I tend to agree that males are typically stronger than females, however the army demands rigourous physical and mental testing. If women pass it, then aren't they just as qualified and deserving to serve alongside men provided they meet the guidelines that are required of them?? There are comments here (cough GG2) saying they wouldn't want a girl 'alongside them'(like they're actually in the army) lol-period. To that I respond-okay, take the brave women out that are there serving us now and put yourselves in then lol)

Concerning the SEALS or any elite group, yes that's a different situation, but I still maintain that if any woman demonstrates the exceptional mental and physical strength that is required in this circumstance, then they are qualified to serve. It's not a question of evening out the playing field or being politically correct as I don't believe we should just 'let' women in to be fair and I would imagine the women who do qualify would be few and far between in these circumstances. But if a woman has proven she has what it takes, then I don't see why we would discriminate against that simply bc it makes you guys at home feel uncomfortable in your 'armchairs' lol.

 

[HOF]

I am not sure, but last time I looked at this issue the US military did not allow women into pure combat roles.

IIRC though there was one woman who did qualify to become a green beret.

Considering what some women soldiers have done through history I believe there are likely women who could serve well in an elite unit.

CPT. Kathleen Wilder earned a green beret
http://militarywoman.org/forums/showthread.php?15166-Capt.-Kathleen-Wilder-Female-Green-Beret Mixed Emotions.

http://www.sflistteamhouse.com/Misc/PhonyGB/Wilder.htm

There was another female mentioned named Peyton Williams, but I couldn't find relevant information for her.

 

[HOF]

I could be wrong but I think the only places women don't serve are in SpecOps (SEALs, Delta, Green Berets, etc) and on submarines.

HOWEVER...............I'd love to go on this search and destroy mission!

That's paintball in the jungles of Cambridge, Ontario!

 

[Hangman]

I have met women in th military who would fuck you all up. No shit.

But i'll be sure to let the women I met in Kandahar that you don't think they have "the combination of mental and physical strength" necessary to do a job that you know basically nothing about.

 

[Aardvark154]

the army demands rigourous physical and mental testing. If women pass it, then aren't they just as qualified and deserving to serve alongside men provided they meet the guidelines that are required of them?

Well I can't personally comment upon the army, however, from what I do know there is a difference between the minimum required for other ranks/enlistees and what is required for those who are going into the infantry and even more those going into the elite forces. This is equally true of a fire control technician aboard ship and someone who wants to go into UDT or become a SEAL.

 

[Aardvark154]

CPT. Kathleen Wilder earned a green beret

Hold on HOF, from the very website you cited:

CPT Wilder was an Intelligence officer assigned to 5th Special Forces Group. She researched the regulations and the school requirements and nowhere did it say women could not attend. She applied to the school and was admitted either because of an error in admissions or because they couldn't legally keep her out. During the last week of the final phase she and two male students were caught caching their rucksacks. That is, she and her compatriots were not carrying the rucksacks as required by the instructors, but hiding them to pick up at a later time. CPT Wilder then hired a civilian lawyer and sued the US Government and the Special Warfare Center & School for sex discrimination. The court agreed and the Command was ordered to provide her a course completion certificate. CPT Wilder never spent a single day in a Special Forces unit after that, as she was reassigned to attend the career course for Intelligence officers at Ft Huachuca, AZ, and then went on to other duties, until she left the military some years later.

 

[Moraff]

If a female can meet the physical/mental requirements to be a SEAL and wants to serve the more power to her.